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Pearl Harbor: The Movie
Memorial Day weekend is almost here, so that means that the summer blockbusters are right around the corner!
The world premiere of Pearl Harbor is this Monday and it will be held on the USS John Stennis, an aircraft carrier (with 6000+ personnel on board!) that arrived a few days ago. National media is slowly making its way to the quiet shores of Hawaii. The cast of the movie arrived in Hawaii a while ago and they've been spotted around town. Sadly I haven't seen my boyfriend Ben Affleck yet. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif Because the premiere will be held on an aircraft carrier, women won't be allowed to wear high heels to protect their safety. All attendees are strongly encouraged to wear rubber-soled shoes. Imagine rubber shoes down the red carpet! There's so much hype regarding this movie--from the multi-million dollar production costs to the near-fatal plane crash that took place during filming. Geez-we even have a brand-new 16-PLEX opening the same day as the movie! Most of us are well aware of the events that took place on December 7, 1941 and are knowledgeable of the outcome of the attack. Still, I bet that Disney's going to use tragic/heroic love story plot. Heck, I get goosebumps from just watching the trailers. Do you folx think that this movie will do just as crazy as Titanic did? ------------------ "From a little spark may burst a mighty flame."--Dante Visit Alpha Gamma Delta-Delta Sigma chapter and help some sisters out! |
It really won't have much competition. There are not many good movies out right now . . .it should rack up at the box office.
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From what I have seen of the trailers, Pear Harbor looks like a really good movie. I can't wait to go see it! OTW, have you run into Ben yet???
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I am so looking forward to seeing this movie. I saw the preview/trailer (?) before the showing of Bridget Jone's Diary. Okay...I became very emotional just from that!!! All those military movies hit close to home since my father is a career Marine.
Anyway, I think this movie is going to be a biggie. It just has that appeal...from the history to the actors...it has to be good! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif [This message has been edited by shopgirl (edited May 18, 2001).] |
Have any of you ever been to the Arizona Memorial? Before the ferry takes you out to the actual memorial, there's a 23 minute informational movie that they show you.
If I got emotional the five times I've been to the Arizona, then I can only imagine how it's going to be when I see the movie. ------------------ "From a little spark may burst a mighty flame."--Dante Visit Alpha Gamma Delta-Delta Sigma chapter and help some sisters out! |
I'm sure it'll be similar to Titanic in many respects
no matter whether it's good or bad - there will be alot of hype on how great it is, thus most kids will hate it Nevertheless, I hope it does great The producer has been living in my hometown for several years now, Jerry Braucheimer (however you spell it) so if it is great, maybe my little small town will be somewhat celebrated I was supposed to have brunch with him once, because he's friends of my friends family my friends family had to cancel I'm still dissappointed about that can't wait to see it |
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I went to the Arizona Memorial several years ago. Seeing that oil slowly dripping to the top of the water after so many years really got to me. Very emotional. Much like how I felt when I visited the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif |
About the movie Pearl Harbor, the company that made the movie printed out some promotional propaganda like posters about the movie. Kind like the ones you see in the history books and such. Anyways, someone who works at the place where these were printed up stole all of the posters and are selling them on e-bay. People collect the wierdest things. With stuff like this, it proves the movie will be huge, titanic huge.
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Okay so I didn't see my boyfriend Ben, but the news people had lotsa coverage on the premiere...and from what I heard from the lucky people that got to go the movie was amazing. Faith Hill was here to sing the movie's song, Dan Aykroyd, Cuba Gooding Jr, Alec Baldwin, and Josh Hartnett were also on the red carpet. And premiere was unique because they did away with the tuxedos and gowns. The attire for the evening was "Aloha Crisp"...how cool is that?
My house overlooks Pearl Harbor, and just five minutes ago the huge fireworks display ended. The booms were so loud that they startled the neighborhood dogs! ------------------ "From a little spark may burst a mighty flame."--Dante Visit Alpha Gamma Delta-Delta Sigma chapter and help some sisters out! |
OohTeeny...I think you are confused. Ben is MY boyfriend. Good thing you're a sister! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif
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GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!
I can't begin to describe how wonderful it is. It has everything that anyone could ever want in a film. The depiction of the bombing is mind boggling. I think it's a movie every American should see. (It also helped me to remember why we play Big Brother to the world). It's worth the 5,6 or even 10 dollars you'd have to pay to see it. Happy Memorial Day! D.C. |
I highly agree shopgirl http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Coming from a fellow Marine Brat http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Hopefully I can see it tommorow but I might sell out.
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The two theatres that had their grand opening today showed the first showing at 7:55 AM (yes folx I said AM) to coincide with the actual bombing itself. Theatre-goers were actually lined up before 5AM!
I read our local morning newspaper and there was an article about how critics bashed the movie because it was "inaccurate" and "does not really tell the stories of the survivors." I personally haven't seen it yet (I'm going tonight), but I've heard nothing but positive reviews from my friends and colleagues. Despite Ebert's scathing remarks, I still can't wait to see it tonight. The only positive review came from the LA Times. Sometimes I wonder how these darn critics ever got hired in the first place. ------------------ "I don't know the secret to success, but one sure way to failure is to try and please everyone."--Bill Cosby Visit Alpha Gamma Delta-Delta Sigma chapter and help some sisters out! |
The movie is definitely a must see!
I sat on the ewdge of my seat for some parts talking to the screen . . watch out behind you . . . look out! Even the love story woven through the movie was fraught with a tension that will appeal to men and women . . . although for different reasons and deserves a post all its own. Also, it illuminates a part of world war II, that most people never have heard about it which happened post PEarl Harbor. Definitely different than "Tora Tora Tora!" Oh I don't remember who the lead female is but she, in the persona of her character, was completely beautiful and charismatic in a way that had me in love with her half way through the movie . . .*sniff* And the way the love story resolved showed that the writer had a sense of male justice . . The guys will get it http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif So go see the movie so we can discuss it! If you don't see the movie by the end of the weekend (you really need an audience to truly appreciate a film) I swear that I will ruin the whole thing for all of you through posts on here and individual emails! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif |
I am not even going to see it until it comes out on tape. Why waste time seeing an hour and a half of cheezy character development and 30 minutes of action. Like titantic, they have to please every demographic. I just feel sorry for the senior citizens who will see this movie over the weekend and see that it sucks.
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Just got back from seeing it...major thumbs up! Worth the long, long wait in lines...
Loved the storyline, the action, and all the male actors..I thought they were pretty all good. And of course--I'm even MORE in love with BEN!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif Only "downer" points for the movie, IMO--the love triangle and the leading lady , Kate Beckinsale. The love triangle was way too cheesy and kinda fell apart after a while. It was good in the beginning, but lost strength after that. And that's saying a lot, b/c I'm such a hopeless romantic! Kate Beckinsale, IMO, could have done better...she wasn't as strong as I would have liked... The general consensus was that the love story was a bit forced, and that Kate wasn't all that "sparkling" shall we say.. But, overall, go see it! I have a feeling it's gonna be even bigger than Titanic..though I did like Titanic better (my fave movie) http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif. |
I finally saw the movie...and it was worth it to charge the tickets by phone so I didn't have to wait in line to get them! The theatres were great--for the Grand Opening it was free popcorn and soda refills!
It wasn't the perfect movie, but it was very worthwhile to see. The love triangle was a bit hard to see because I think both men were deserving of her. I loved Kate, despite what many people have said about her role. "Evelyn" was a real life PH nurse (now in her late 80s), and I found that out the night of the world premiere. The concept of the movie was to portray a love story with the events of Pearl Harbor in the backdrop, and so maybe that's why it looked "forced". I didn't cry at all during the lovey conversation, but I cried like a baby during the bombing scenes, seeing the pain of the sailors who were hurt beyond recognition and who couldn't be saved in time. I was also afraid that this movie was going to renew anti-Japanese sentiments. Many of the PH survivors have said that this movie was surprisingly accurate, and I am so glad that they have given this movie their star of approval. Contrary to what ex greek said, I don't think they're trying to please every demographic. Millions of dollars were spent for this movie in hopes that no one should ever forget about PH. There were some minor flaws in the movie: Old Haleiwa town did not look like that, and one of the intelligence guys even mispronounced it (I'm anal about Hawaiian words). It was impossible for them to get to the airfield so fast as Wheeler is a good 30 minutes drive into the country from the PH/Hickam area. Oh--and that Japanese Pagoda scene? That's a temple in Manoa, about 5 minutes away from my campus. Not to be mean, but Titanic was a big snoozer. Titanic itself dragged on for 3 hours and it felt like 3 hours. PH was 3 and a half hours, but like James I was at the edge of my seat during the whole movie (with the occasional drying of the eyes). The only indication of a 3 and a half hour movie was the locking of my knees when I tried to stand. It was almost 2 in the morning when we left the theatres. I hope everyone here can get a chance to see it! ------------------ "I don't know the secret to success, but one sure way to failure is to try and please everyone."--Bill Cosby Visit Alpha Gamma Delta-Delta Sigma chapter and help some sisters out! |
I saw it last night, & agree about the love triangle thing. It was really unrealistic, IMHO. I give it a "A-" or "B+" overall, though. I really liked it.
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*****Do not scroll further if you have not seen the movie!***** ******************************************** The love triangle IMHO, was more poingnat from a guys point of view. Best friend back stabs you with your girl . . . if he had lived and he and Kate had been together forever . . . that would have left me and most men I know gnashing their teeth . . . what is funny is that I had conversations today about the movie and we agreed that men and women would see the love triangle from totally different points of view . . . I am not sure where you ladies are coming from on it http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif At the end I thought the writer had a very good sense of justice in killing the one guy off. As far as Kate went in her character . . . I missed 10 crucial minutes getting my date popcorn and soda so will ahve to resee the movie to guage the overall affect . . . but she seemed strong and consistant with the way women I have known reason . . . actually she may have been a bit more romantic in the sense of holding on for a long time . . . My one complaint is that there didn't seem to be a really well expressed time line between things. I wouldn't mind dicussing the Triangle more with those of you with an opinion . . . because I really thought it was so WRONG for the best friend to become involved with her. |
OTW, I am so very afraid of anti-Japanese sentiment because of this movie... every time some unthinking teacher assigns my daughters' classes a novel such as Under the Blood Red Sun or has them watch a WWII video, it seems that my daughters get, at the least, dirty looks or sometimes a comment from some trashy kid.
Oddly enough, we've gotten no grief from veterans of WWII; they seem to feel like the Japanese soldiers were mostly scared boys following orders just like they were. |
James- I guess you're right that guys & girls will see the triangle differently. I thought it was insane for Ben's character to hold a grudge for so long. "Hello!? We thought you were dead!!" Evalyn & the friend guy both felt guilty, but followed their hearts. Ben decided to leave, he should have been prepared to deal with whatever happened because of it.
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HeidiHo, I feel the same way on the grade for the movie. The movie definitely should be movie of the year. I absolutely loved it. It had so many great elements to the movie. I could see how it might inspire some animosity towards the Japanese, but I dont see it that way. I'd like to think if anything else it builds a sense of pride in our nation and respect of our Men and Women who died at Pearl Harbor. Thats how I like to look at it.
James, IMHO, I feel the same way about the love triangle. Wow, talk about knife in the back *L* After Ben swears his love carried him through to get back to his Kate in Pearl Harbor. Yeah, I agree with you Heidi, but I guess to me I found it suprising she didnt hang on the idea of Ben longer. I mean 3 months? I could see some that might have waited a year or so just out of respect for that significant other. Plus, it was his best friend. If I was in Bens shoes and my best friend did that to me our friendship would be history. However, I guess the fact they were soldiers and how they were assigned made things even more difficult for their friendship. I guess that just coming from a guys perspective http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif I would never ever make a move like that on a best friends girl. IMHO. Dead or Not. Just out of respect for our friendship. Granted she was having the baby and couldnt go back with Ben until they killed off his friend. Though *L* I just cant see how there wouldnt be some big issues going on for awhile in that marriage between Ben and Kate *L*. Kate was definitely lovely to watch in that movie. Kevin [This message has been edited by Miami1839 (edited May 26, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Miami1839 (edited May 26, 2001).] |
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I saw the movie last night and found it really good (especially since in one of my political science classes this year we studied the "American Intelligence Failure" that lead to Pearl Harbour and the American's increasing their intelligence budget by gazillions of dollars!) I started to cry whent he first bomb was dropped in Pearl Harbour and was still crying at the end in the field with lil'Danny. (In saving Private Ryan I started crying when they showed the crosses at the beginning! I'm an Army Brat what can I say! I was taught all this stuff from a very young age) As for the triangle...it rubbed me the wrong way! I understand how Ben could feel upset. Hello, he was fighting in a war his country was not, he almost died and he comes home and his girl is with his best friend! She was on an island where it was 4000 sailors to one girl...chick's grieving process was a couple of days it seems http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Come on girls, you know you would feel the same if one of your soror's was dating your Ben Affleck!! I also didn't like the mission to Japan where Danny died, b/c it seemed like Evelyn got what she always wanted...Raif (Ben). That made me seriously dislike her. All in all, I thought it was a good film. I can't compare it to Titanic, as I never saw it! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif ------------------ Sarah Sister Lots-a-Heart, #9 President, Iota Beta Chi Sorority http://welcome.to/iotabetachi |
I have no idea why any of you would call this a "must see". It was a complete flop. Everyone in the theatre generally sensed it. It was three hours long. It was filled with complete horse crap love scenes and then war scenes. There were bodies everywhere but not one emotion arose in you. The love scenes just seemed too fake - like they were made for the movie and way too cheezy. In fact I'm still wondering how Ben could be dyslexic and not pass his eye exam but still write and read love letters.
Also it was looooong. This movie was long and had a hundred stories in it. If you want to tell me what the black sailor had to really do with anything, please go ahead because that could have been another movie on its own. The movie is just one of those movies that's so stupid that you laugh. "I'll never look at a sunset without thinking of you" is a line that gets every single guy that's watching it to turn to his buddy and make a gay face and act stupid. My favorite was having some old guy fart as soon as the girl said that line and everyone in the theatre laughed. If I was the director I would have rejected half of those scenes and made one solid movie with a plot that didn't digress every 5 minutes. I would have used actors that are able to connect with emotions. I would have made it more...lifelike. And this wasn't life like (wahine?). They threw in a couple of facts, but the rest was done for affect. This isn't a bad thing at all...but it definitely isn't meant to be twisted into a documentary with a seal of approval from WWII vets (which it wasn't). [This message has been edited by Rudey (edited May 28, 2001).] |
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If you want to tell me what the black sailor had to really do with anything, please go ahead because that could have been another movie on its own. You're right. Dorrie Miller deserves his own movie. He's significantly important because of his heroism during the bombing. Though his skin color prohibited him from ever handling a weapon, he came forward and shot down at least two Japanese planes. Though African-Americans were limited to kitchen duty, Dorrie Miller still found it necessary to care for his dying captain. He was awarded the Navy Cross although many critics feel that he should've been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. What's ironic is that he died just two years after the PH attack as his boat was sunk by Japanese submarines. That's why "that black sailor" was significant. If I was the director I would have rejected half of those scenes and made one solid movie with a plot that didn't digress every 5 minutes. I would have used actors that are able to connect with emotions. I would have made it more...lifelike. But then your movie would be like all of them other action movies...testosterone filled with Japan and the US competing to see who's c**k was bigger. And this wasn't life like (wahine?). They threw in a couple of facts, but the rest was done for affect. This isn't a bad thing at all...but it definitely isn't meant to be twisted into a documentary with a seal of approval from WWII vets (which it wasn't). I think you mean EFFECT . Did I say in my previous posts that the movie was supposed to be accurate? Hmm..I don't think I did. Um, if it was supposed to be marketed as a documentary it would've been sent straight to MSNBC. Getting the approval of PH survivors is indeed important. The movie itself is a depiction of their war, and many of the main characters were modeled after real people. News clip after news clip you hear the cast and crew repeating over and over "this movie is to honor them." It's a shame that you didn't enjoy the movie...but too bad the movie already got your money! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif |
I really wish you people hadn't ruined the movie for me! Next time I won't go on a movie board until AFTER I've seen the movie!
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I thought the movie was horribly long too, but then I have a short attention span. I don't like movies over 2 hours. But, disregarding the length, I thought it wasn't half bad. It was definitely more interesting that Titanic, which it has been compared to.
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wahine,
two things. 1) Having a solid plot does not turn it into a "testosterone" flick. By your reasoning, "Fried Green Tomatoes" and any other "chick flick" is really a "testosterone flick" if it involves having a straight solid plot that doesn't digress. 2) Don't correct my spelling. I find that incredibly annoying. I made a simple mistake. I wasn't revising my BA paper. People do things and don't understand how it makes someone else feel. Well correctings my spelling is insulting my education. If you really want me to, I can be an arrogant person from my side of the screen and search through your posts for spelling and grammatical mistakes. I can take this even further and just insult your capabilities in other ways as well. But I'd rather not. I'm a civil person, and I'm sure you understand that going to a top 10 school, having great stats, and working hard are going to get me places in life rather than my spelling on the greekchat.com forums. Thank you for understanding. |
For those who are interestd in both Pearl Harbor (the movie) and Psychology/Personality Tests, etc. here's an interesting piece of reading! (From the Keirsey Team)
http://www.advisorteam.com/newslette...arlHarbor.html |
Hey all,
I truly was feeling Pearl Harbor, I was really just into the action stuff. Don't get me wrong though, because Ben Affleck was ever so the hottiefscottie. But I thought the movies accuracy might have been off a notch or two. Might just be, but it felt like the movie was making it seem like Josh Harnet and Ben affleck saved the world by themselves, but hey it's hollywood http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif DGPhoney~ |
LOL DGPhoney!
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I totally enjoyed Pearl Harbour. Everyone was saying it was a total flop and it wasn't. I studied US history at university and I have always been fascinated by the Pacific war so Pearl Harbour was quite a treat. For the most part I found it historically correct, and I liked the way they threw some fiction into it. It was lots of fun, and boy those tears were flowing...
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* WARNING: DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE *
* LAST CHANCE...I MEAN IT * Okay, I FINALLY went and saw Pearl Harbor and I have to agree with most of you that the movie was phenomenal! After hearing all the hype and then all the critiques, I was expecting a really crappy love triangle, but in retrospect I did like it a lot. Yes, a lot of it was highly predictable but that's not always a bad thing. My main complaint is that Evelyn (Kate Beckinsale) wasn't anywhere near emotional enough when Rafe (Ben) "died" or came back to her. Even though it was already a three hour movie, I would have liked to have seen some more connection between Danny (Josh Harnett) and Evelyn because it seemed too rushed and I can understand how people would be pissed about them hooking up. During the battle scenes, I was kinda hoping Evelyn would died and then Rafe and Danny would both live, bury her, and restore their friendship. However, I can't say I didn't feel touched by Rafe saving Danny and then Danny getting shot to save Rafe. I was almost justice for taking his girl (although I agree that it sucked that Evelyn got what she wanted in the first place). I am not a crier, but I totally teared up at the end when Rafe took Lil Danny up in the plane! What a great scene! Also, the scene that sticks out most in my head was the underwater scene during the battle where they showed the dead/injured sailors surrounding the torn up American flag. Once again I think they did a great job with this movie and it's a definiate must see. I give it three thumbs up! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif |
hey all,
heres the dilema, I saw pearl harbor but missed the last 20 minutes, can some one please please email me to tell me the end http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif DGPhoney~ |
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