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LXA SE285 11-07-2007 01:03 PM

Two students arrested at UGA KA party for cocaine possession
 
http://media.www.redandblack.com/med...ntedstoriestab

Police arrest two for cocaine

CAROLYN CRIST

Issue date: 11/6/07 Section: News

Two University students were arrested last week and charged with felony possession of cocaine.

Police arrested Timothy Sanders Wallis, 22, and Julianne Robbins Tamplin, 22, after midnight Saturday at the Classic Center.

(Article continues at link)

nittanyalum 11-07-2007 01:21 PM

Wow, what a way to flush your academic career and future prospects down the drain. She is listed as an officer on DZ's UGA site, I don't know if he is a member of a fraternity or not... She looks devastated in her mug shot! (as she should!)

Tom Earp 11-07-2007 03:10 PM

Sounds like he may have been a KA as it was at one of their partys.

Not a good way to pay for college.

Guess they can earn a degree in the Pen.

How damn stupid can they have been? Well, stupid enough and makes each GLO look bad!:o

OleMissGlitter 11-07-2007 03:35 PM

It's ironic because she's listed as their social chair....

srmom 11-07-2007 04:00 PM

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Guess they can earn a degree in the Pen
They're not going to go the penitentiary. It doesn't say that they are dealers for God's sake! Is that your idea of a joke? If so, I don't find this funny. I, personally find the whole thing really sad!

She does look awful in the mug shot, I'm sure what's going on in her mind is, "what am I going to tell my family, friends, etc."

I may be totally wrong, don't know the kids at all, but they are probably social users who NEVER dreamed they'd get busted. While I hope they (and their friends) learned a costly lesson, I also hope that this doesn't define the rest of their life.

Kevin 11-07-2007 04:09 PM

It's not sad at all. What is sad about someone getting arrested for something illegal?

And no, they aren't going to prison. I believe the article says something about probation for 1st time offenders.

33girl 11-07-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1546339)
It's not sad at all. What is sad about someone getting arrested for something illegal?

I think she means that it's sad that they feel they have to use cocaine at all.

srmom 11-07-2007 04:33 PM

What I mean, is the whole thing is sad. Yes, it's sad that they were doing drugs at all, it's sad that they were so stupid to do them in a public place, it's sad that they were arrested, and it's sad that it could detrimentally affect their future.

As a parent, I have learned to never say in a high and mighty tone, "My kids would NEVER do that." Because as soon as you do, karma bites you in the butt and your kids get busted doing it, from stupid things when they were little, to drinking in high school, to God forbid, doing drugs.

I have told my kids that I know they will make mistakes, just to please not make any life altering mistakes, the big three being:

1. don't flunk out of school
2. don't get anyone pregnant
and 3. don't get anything above a class C misdemeanor.

But, if they did, I wouldn't love them any less, and these two have families who love them. I don't think having a laugh at the expense of others' sadness is a nice thing.

What is that German word? Schadenfraud or something?

AlphaFrog 11-07-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1546355)
I have told my kids that I know they will make mistakes, just to please not make any life altering mistakes, the big three being:

1. don't flunk out of school
2. don't get anyone pregnant
and 3. don't get anything above a class C misdemeanor.

How noble.

Quote:

What is that German word? Schadenfraud or something?
Schadenfreude.

MysticCat 11-07-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1546355)
What is that German word? Schadenfraud or something?

Schadenfreude.

And I knew what you meant, and I agree.

srmom 11-07-2007 04:42 PM

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How noble
No, Realistic

banditone 11-07-2007 04:45 PM

Will KA get in any trouble on campus or through nationals you think?

AlphaFrog 11-07-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1546361)
No, Realistic

You can be realistic without appearing to have such low expectations.

SthrnZeta 11-07-2007 05:08 PM

Wow, this happened while I was there, it was right after the Homecoming game (which UGA won btw). I hung out with one of her sisters for most of the evening as it turns out...

srmom 11-07-2007 05:29 PM

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You can be realistic without appearing to have such low expectations
Since you don't know me, you don't know that my big 3 is strictly said tongue in cheek to my kids. Since you don't know us, you don't know that our family's expectations of each other are extremely high, and I have been very fortunate that my kids have turned out great and are successful.

But, I also believe the old adage of "there, but for the grace of God, go I." I have been blessed that I haven't had to deal with a "problem child"

I know a lot of parents who are blind sided by their kid's mistakes. Most of the time, the kids are good kids who made a stupid choice. I can forgive that, and I have sympathy for them and for their folks. I also don't judge them as BAAAAD people who should be forever tarnished by their actions, especially when the mistake was made when they were young and dumb.

Low C Sharp 11-07-2007 07:29 PM

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It's ironic because she's listed as their social chair....
I was thinking that and biting my tongue (fingers?). At least she wasn't in charge of risk management.
________
Laguna Bay II Condos

grams 11-07-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1546379)
Since you don't know me, you don't know that my big 3 is strictly said tongue in cheek to my kids. Since you don't know us, you don't know that our family's expectations of each other are extremely high, and I have been very fortunate that my kids have turned out great and are successful.

But, I also believe the old adage of "there, but for the grace of God, go I." I have been blessed that I haven't had to deal with a "problem child"

I know a lot of parents who are blind sided by their kid's mistakes. Most of the time, the kids are good kids who made a stupid choice. I can forgive that, and I have sympathy for them and for their folks. I also don't judge them as BAAAAD people who should be forever tarnished by their actions, especially when the mistake was made when they were young and dumb.

SRMom,

Good for you. Right on. Up to now, my family is blessed with kids who have made the "right " choices- in high school and in college. This incident at UGA gives me chills b/c I hear about the pressures. I will prayerfully hope for the best for these kids and their families, and prayfully keep my fingers crossed that my kids, and yours, continue to make the right choices.

gunnejm 11-08-2007 01:04 PM

i happen to have know the girl my entire life and discussed the matter with her family. she did NOT test positive for cocaine when given a drug test at the station and she's VERY upset about all of this because she didn't do it. her father is suing not only the red and black, but the police. it's stupid for y'all to judge and discuss people's problems when you have no idea who they are or even what really happened.

LaneSig 11-08-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnejm (Post 1546669)
i happen to have know the girl my entire life and discussed the matter with her family. she did NOT test positive for cocaine when given a drug test at the station and she's VERY upset about all of this because she didn't do it. her father is suing not only the red and black, but the police. it's stupid for y'all to judge and discuss people's problems when you have no idea who they are or even what really happened.

You do not have to test positive to be charged with felony possession. All you have to do is have it in close enough proximity that you could be in control of the substance.

If the officer lied about seeing her snort the cocaine, has her family told her she was an idiot to stand there and watch her friend or date snort up? You may or may not agree with the charge, but it is the law.

And, read the article again, I just did. The article does not say that Tamplin or the other guy tested positive for cocaine: It says the bottle they were holding tested positive. Daddy can sue the Red and Black all he wants. They were reporting the incident and the facts as listed by the officer. Even if the officer is mistaken, it's called 'absence of malice'.

SthrnZeta 11-08-2007 01:19 PM

That night at the Classic Center, there were two fraternties having celebrations - Delta Tau Delta and Sigma Chi. I was at the Delt function and it was pretty tame. Most people left after the speeches and after the meal. I walked past the Sigma Chi event on the way out and it still looked like it was hoppin at 11 when I left. Maybe the two that were arrested attended the Sigma Chi event, thus making the guy that was arrested a Sigma Chi...? I sure hope not for their sake, they've had quite a bit of trouble this past year in various chapters..

macallan25 11-13-2007 10:43 PM

Are we really posting articles about getting arrested for blow?

This isn't out of the ordinary. Coke is everywhere.

amycat412 11-13-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1548426)
Are we really posting articles about getting arrested for blow?

This isn't out of the ordinary. Coke is everywhere.

i concur.

AGDLynn 11-13-2007 11:25 PM

I believe the article says something about probation for 1st time offenders.

I deal with consequences of Georgia's First Offender Act every day (multiple times). When a record check is done, the arrest will appear while they are still on probation. Once they have been successfully discharged, the arrest is "sealed" only to be disseminated to criminal justice agencies for certain purposes, including probate courts if they wanted to purchase a firearm or applying for certain cj jobs.

It is not sealed on the court records which is public record.

As an FYI, certain crimes don't qualify for FOA (including DUI). The law keeps changing as to what offenses may be disseminable after completion, i.e., certain sex offenses if the applicant is working with children, mentally challenged or elderly.

I feel sorry for them, their families and their orgs. Temptation is too great at such a young age.

TSteven 11-13-2007 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1546673)
That night at the Classic Center, there were two fraternties having celebrations - Delta Tau Delta and Sigma Chi. I was at the Delt function and it was pretty tame. Most people left after the speeches and after the meal. I walked past the Sigma Chi event on the way out and it still looked like it was hoppin at 11 when I left. Maybe the two that were arrested attended the Sigma Chi event, thus making the guy that was arrested a Sigma Chi...? I sure hope not for their sake, they've had quite a bit of trouble this past year in various chapters..

What the hell? Were you at the Sigma Chi event? Did you see them there? Just because the Sigma Chi party was still "hoppin at 11" when you left doesn't mean jack.

mystikchick 11-14-2007 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1546673)
That night at the Classic Center, there were two fraternties having celebrations - Delta Tau Delta and Sigma Chi. I was at the Delt function and it was pretty tame. Most people left after the speeches and after the meal. I walked past the Sigma Chi event on the way out and it still looked like it was hoppin at 11 when I left. Maybe the two that were arrested attended the Sigma Chi event, thus making the guy that was arrested a Sigma Chi...? I sure hope not for their sake, they've had quite a bit of trouble this past year in various chapters..

Except the article specifies that they were at the KA Party, as does the title of this thread?

LaneSig 11-14-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mystikchick (Post 1548517)
Except the article specifies that they were at the KA Party, as does the title of this thread?

If you look at the article, the officer was working security for the KA party. The article itself does not specify if the male student was a member of KA or any other fraternity that was having a function at the Center. The title of this thread is misleading.

SthrnZeta 11-14-2007 11:12 AM

I'm merely speculating like the rest of GC...

ThetaPrincess24 11-14-2007 12:37 PM

I dont think it really matters at this point if they started at another party and ended up at the KA party. They were caught doing whatever it was they were doing at the KA party. KA will most likely be the group that gets into trouble (or the most trouble).

The assumption that they may have started at the Sigma Chi party because in your opinion it happened to still be hopping when you left is stupid. That's my opinion and i'm sticking to it.

SthrnZeta 11-14-2007 12:43 PM

Of course I'm not assuming cocaine was present at a party just because it still had a lot of people at it! I was simply saying that the bust happened at or near the Classic Center (right?) and involved at least one member of UGA's Greek community. I happened to be at that location earlier that night and two fraternities were holding events there (that I know of). I can only speculate if it may have possibly involved Sigma Chi because the Delt party was broken up by that point. That's all I was saying. :rolleyes:

ETA: The article says they were arrested at the Classic Center.

MysticCat 11-14-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1548604)
I dont think it really matters at this point if they started at another party and ended up at the KA party. They were caught doing whatever it was they were doing at the KA party.

According to the article, they were caught in a hallway of the Classic Center, not at the KA party. The KA party was being held in the building as (as were other fraternity parties, as SthrnZeta, who was there that night, has noted), but they were not at the party itself when they were caught.

SthrnZeta 11-14-2007 12:47 PM

Mystic, exactly my point. I was merely speculating if it involved other groups as well. KA was mentioned only because that cop was working the KA party while he was off-duty and people jumped on that.

TSteven 11-14-2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1548610)
Mystic, exactly my point. I was merely speculating if it involved other groups as well. KA was mentioned only because that cop was working the KA party while he was off-duty and people jumped on that.

However, you insinuated that they attended the Sigma Chi event because it was still happening when you left. Why was this speculation even necessary?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1546673)
I walked past the Sigma Chi event on the way out and it still looked like it was hoppin at 11 when I left. Maybe the two that were arrested attended the Sigma Chi event, thus making the guy that was arrested a Sigma Chi...?

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1548608)
I can only speculate if it may have possibly involved Sigma Chi because the Delt party was broken up by that point. That's all I was saying.

Really. Since we are speculating, maybe they were there for the Delta Tau Delta event and you just didn't happen to see them. That is just as good a speculation as the other ones.

Bottom line is that it is best to stick with the facts (or what has been reported) and not speculate.

mystikchick 11-14-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1548545)
If you look at the article, the officer was working security for the KA party. The article itself does not specify if the male student was a member of KA or any other fraternity that was having a function at the Center. The title of this thread is misleading.

Ah, I see, thanks for that - it wasn't clear (other than the fact that the guy arrested was not specified to be a member of any org).

LaneSig 11-15-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mystikchick (Post 1548749)
Ah, I see, thanks for that - it wasn't clear (other than the fact that the guy arrested was not specified to be a member of any org).

I'll admit that I logged into Georgia's website and tried to check the membership lists for KA and Sigma Chi to see if the male student was on either list. The KA's don't have a website and the Sig's website is primarily for alumns.

SWTXBelle 11-15-2007 09:55 AM

From what I have read, the thread title is misleading. The only connection to the KA party is that the officer HAD been working security.

SthrnZeta 11-15-2007 11:22 AM

Lane and SWT, I agree about the misleading title.

As for speculation, TSteven, I see your point, but that's kinda the point of threads like these - just like the Bama Expansion thread. Speculate on, I say!

nittanyalum 11-15-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1548968)
As for speculation, TSteven, I see your point, but that's kinda the point of threads like these - just like the Bama Expansion thread. Speculate on, I say!

"Speculating" about what organizations may join a greek system on a campus and "speculating" if a person arrested for felony possession of a controlled substance is a member of a particular (and named) GLO are two VERY different things, IMO...

SthrnZeta 11-15-2007 12:01 PM

I agree there is a big difference between the two, BUT it would be a very boring thread if we all just sat here and said what a tragedy it was or I knew her and it's not true.

nittanyalum 11-15-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1548987)
I agree there is a big difference between the two, BUT it would be a very boring thread if we all just sat here and said what a tragedy it was or I knew her and it's not true.

So attaching this situation to another GLO without any basis for it is now what passes for sport? What if the male were identified and no one knew anything about the female and someone else started assuming she might be one of your sisters without any reason to attach your letters to her -- that wouldn't irk you just a tad?

TSteven 11-15-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1548987)
BUT it would be a very boring thread if we all just sat here and said what a tragedy it was or I knew her and it's not true.

Wow!

Just so we are clear here. You felt this thread was boring (tragedy not withstanding), so you took it upon yourself to liven things up with unsubstantiated allegations and idle speculation. Got it.

Again, wow!


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