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Did you hear?
Pres. Bush's daughters (19) were "busted" for allegedly purchasing or trying to purchase alcohol from a restaurant in Austin.
uh ohhhhh! BTW, actually, one (Jenna) of them tried to use someone else's ID. [This message has been edited by AKA2D '91 (edited May 30, 2001).] |
One of his neices, the exact name I cannot remember, was just pictured in Vogue or Town & Country @ a Paris debutante party...where all the debs wore haute coture dresses...she is a beauty!
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And George P (I think he's W's nephew) is mighty easy on the eyes. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif
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you can check out the story here:
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One twin (jenna) is @ school in Texas and the other @ Yale (barb)...are they in an GLO yet? I know this was/is their fresh year so possibly not yet... [This message has been edited by ZTAMich (edited May 30, 2001).] |
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Lauren Bush was in Vogue and, yes, she certainly is beautiful. As for Jeb's son, I totally agree...HOTTIE ALERT! ------------------ @~Tracy~@ Proud to be Delta-Z By the light of the lamp, by the light of the lamp, by the bright shiny light, by the light of the lamp...if you are a DeeZee, you're the best that you can be, by the bright shiny light of the lamp! [This message has been edited by KillarneyRose (edited May 30, 2001).] |
Jenna is a theta
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Yes Jenna did get into trouble for trying to buy alcohol with someone else's ID at Chuy's (a restaurant). (I live in Austin so her every move is widely covered on the local news.) She had already gotten an MIP and was sentenced to community service on the condition that she couldn't get into any more trouble until she was 21. Since she has gotten into trouble again, she now faces consequences for her last offense as well as this one. Uh-Oh!
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Yeah i just heard about it in the news. Apparently the guy working in Chuy's at the time this happened called 911. I thought that was so stupid. Then the reporter asked some bar managers in the Houston area what they do whenever a minor wants to get alcohol and they refuse to give it to them and then ask them to leave. I guess maybe just because she is the president's daughter he felt the need to call 911?? I am sorry but their daughters' lives should be kept private- unfortunately it doesnt work that way.
By the way Jenna is the one that goes to UT and she is a Theta. I did hear though that both of the Bush sisters were at that mexican restaurant. |
They were both trying to buy alcohol, and I think they're a little slow mentally.
I mean, you KNOW everyone is watching you. Why go to a restaurant? The guy who called 911 is an azz, though. |
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Laura,
MIP = Minor In Possession (of alcohol, that is) I never knew what this was either till my high school pen pal told me! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif As far as that dude calling 911 - I think he is the mentally slow one. I can't tell you how agitated people would get around here if someone did that. What if his call had delayed a call from someone who really needed help?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif |
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ROTFLMAO@ THAT ONE! IT MUST RUN IN THE FAMILY! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif http://www.plauder-smilies.de/lach.gif |
OK, lets pretend for a second. you're the daughter of the President of the United States and you're also part of a LARGE chapter that I'm sure has girls that are over 21. Being the daughter of the President wouldn't you just get someone older to buy your alcohol for you...is this a hard concept to understand...especially 1) knowing you are very recognizable right now and 2) that you just got arrested a month ago for a similar charge. Hello. Sounds like a cry for attention.....Or someone's on an Ego trip.
BTW i heard that she was caught using a 'doctored' ID which in most states is a felony charge while using someone else's ID is a misdeameanor for misrepresenting yourself to purchase alcohol illegally. [This message has been edited by USFstudent (edited May 31, 2001).] |
*sigh*
If the drinking age were 18, we wouldn't be having all this trouble. Has raising the age done anything more than criminalize a large group of people, as well as cost taxpayers more for the added burden of all the arrests for all the 18, 19 and 20 year olds who can vote, buy pornography, go to war, but can't buy a beer? *stepping off soapbox* Although, it was pretty dumb to be the president's daughter and try to use a fake ID. And the guy who called 911 was a pretty big moron. Hello! Threat to safety because a 19 year old wanted a glass of wine? Hardly. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif |
Yeah, I definitely think the law should be changed too. But as long as it's the law now, it should be followed and it makes me mad that she's getting off with nothing (kind of like her dad with the DUI??)
Am I wrong? I heard no charges were being filed. Hmmm, could it have ANYTHING to do with the fact that she's the president's daughter? I don't know anyone else with 2 offenses in a row that would get off this easy!! |
Yeah, I had to wonder if Jenna is a little slow mentally too. I mean, if you JUST got caught MIP last month, you'd think you'd avoid breaking the law for a LITTLE while, or at least do it on the DL. She was asking for trouble, I think!!
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ummm . . . every MIP i've ever heard of, both at home and at school, resulted in a $50 fine (or so) and not much else, as long as you were over 18 . . . this includes one from a friend who got caught w/ 3 kegs in the back of his suburban (in high school - smart kid . . . ), although now that i think about it he got a $500 fine b/c of some keg law - the grocery store they were from got a much tougher penalty. either way, simple MIP was fifty bucks straight up, no service or anything, no real court as long as you paid the ticket (for first offenses).
I guess the point is that I don't know that she got any special treatment at all - community service? For MIP? That's unheard-of a lot of places; it's a misdemeanor, that usually means a fine (see traffic tickets, etc) or something else light. Misrepresentation of age or fake ID? OK, now we're talking heavy fines or service time, but what do you want? Jail time for minor in possession? I don't think that's feasible - and what else is there? fines, and community service. That's about it. just my dime, from experience w/ that sorta ticket (although not really first-hand, thankfully!) |
THANK YOU KSig. I was beginning to think that everyone thought that people should do time in prison for an MIP! Nobody gets more than a fine or community service, so I don't think the president's daughters are getting special treatment!
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My question is, why is this news? According to local press (I'm in Austin, TX), the only newspaper around that isn't covering the case is the "Daily Texan" which is the UT student run newspaper. Congratulations to them. Is it news when any other student faces the same charges.... come on, it's a class C misdemeanor. Did she (jenna) use bad judgment? Yes. Is it news? No. |
Does anyone see some kind of ironic parallel here between this situation and the movie Traffic? Remember, the guy was the head of the DEA and his daughter was a total crack fiend? Now, the President of the US, who should be all about following our nation's laws and protecting citizens (among his many other duties) has a daughter that cannot seem to follow the law (although I admit, it's not like she's been caught freebasing). but, then again, the daughter in Traffic was somehow smart (or lucky) enough not to be caught by the authorities, like Jenna has 2 times in 5 weeks!!
BTW, thanks for the answer AlphaXiGirl. The reason it is news, IMO, is that she is the President's daughter (the irony I pointed out above). Just like why it's news when any celebrity does anything...like when Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston got married, or when Matthew Perry ran into someone's Hollywood home (and wasn't under the influence). But, what Jenna did was not only something people want to hear about, it's a purposeful disobediance of the law (and I'll say ti again...2 times in 5 weeks!!). And like I heard a journalist say last night on CNBC, if a police report is filed, it's news, it's their job to report it. End of story. As long as it's something people want to know about, too, it will be reported. If Jenna doesn't like it, she should consider becoming an activist against it, or maybe...uh...just follow the law??? [This message has been edited by SuperXO (edited June 01, 2001).] |
how many people do you know that got arrested for attempting to buy alcohol with a fake??? in every case i've ever heard of if they get caught be the seller, they take the id and send them on their way. the only time the cops "should" and i use that term loosely, be called, is if they were at the restaurant, someone else had a drink, and they gave it to them. but even then most places would just kick them out. 911? get real...
------------------ Steve Corbin Lambda Chi Alpha Theta Kappa Chapter Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. |
Maybe it's because I am in Austin but this was the LEAD STORY on the morning news???? It's listed at a "top story" on Foxnews.com. Okay, there's history being made in Congress, there are wars being fought overseas, US hostages have been shot in the Philippines, armed kids are keeping police at bay in Idaho, McVeigh is asking for another stay.... and the Bush twins are the lead story. Give me a break.
I don't disagree that the public finds it interesting... obviously, we're talking about it. If the media feels some sense of duty to report it - put it on page 8 where it should be. As far as reporting on celebrities - Jenna and Barb did not ask to be celebrities. Yes, they are the President's daughters and it does (unfortunately) come with the territory. But I can't quite equate this latest reporting with reports done on "real" celebrities.... Matthew Perry, Robert Downey, Jr. etc - these are people that made a choice to be in the spotlight... there's a difference. |
Has anyone confirmed that someone actually called 911? I know that is the rumor, but I read on...it was either MSNBC or TNR that the police actually happened to be doing a sweep at that time and Jenna got caught.
Steve, the only other person I personally know who used a fake and got caught did have the police called and they suspended her and her sister's license for one year. So, I don't think it is that common to be caught, expecially twice in a row! |
I heard on the radio on my way to work this AM that there is a video tape of Jenna at a fraterenity party in austin. Apparently she is outta controll in it. I just know the greeks arent gonna come outta this looking pretty. SOMEHOW it will all be our fault.
I did it, but I wasnt the presidents kid. Shows a lack of judgement on her part. Plus, alls ya gotta do is get SOMEONE else to get it for you. Geez. Not the brightest shrub in the bushes. |
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OK I agree that the girls didn't choose their parents or choose to be famous, but they did choose to break laws. Now I don't agree with the law (I think its an infringement on our adult rights) but we all know it and if we choose to break it, we run the risk of getting caught. And any time the police are involved, the matter becomes public record so this isn't really an invasion of privacy. Of course it wouldn't be on the news if any regular kid got an MIP but that's just reality - if your dad's the president you are in the public eye. And none of us got to choose our parents or our lifestyles (not entirely anyway) so I don't really see that as being a valid argument for why they should be left alone. Just my opinion. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
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As far as the Jenna: public figure or not? argument, the stories about any President's relation are really only published to draw negative attention to the President himself - basically "if this is his family, how can he run the country?" Can we say Billy Carter...Roger Clinton....Patti Davis...etc. etc. |
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I was watching MSNBC last night and they showed Grandma Barbara speaking at a Junior League somewhere on the East Coast. It's great to see that Grandma has a sense of humor. At the luncheon she made a joke about how Dubya raised hell as a college student. She then continued to say that his past is now coming back to haunt him and he's now going to get a taste of the headaches of being a parent.
The family has since retreated to Camp David. ------------------ "I don't know the secret to success, but one sure way to failure is to try and please everyone."--Bill Cosby Visit Alpha Gamma Delta-Delta Sigma chapter and help some sisters out! |
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I'm amazed that it wasn't the Secret Service who busted her--'cuz isn't the SS suppose to watch over the President's family???
And, isn't the legal drinking age on a military installation 18? I could be wrong. But, if your on "base" and you "fight" a war, you should be able to drink... And it's really sad 'cuz maybe the girl has a problem... |
To Juniorgrrl: If they lower the drinking age, yes, there would be less arrests of 18,19, 20 year olds, BUT then there would be 16 & 17 year olds getting busted instead and there would be a huge rise in the number of high school kids getting in alcohol related accidents.
To AKA_Monet: Yes, you would think that the Secret Service would tell Jenna not to be a moron, but they are bodyguards not babysitters. They are there to see that she doesn't get shot, not act as her conscience. |
Leslie,
I disagree that there would be a rise in 17 and 16 year olds breaking the law if the drinking age was lowered to 18. I guess it's just an opinion, but I don't think more 16 and 17 year olds would drink underage, just because they were only 2 years or so from the legal age. They already do it a lot now. And if you change the law, at least you free up law enforcement officers to concentrate more on those age groups, since they don't have to chase down 18-20 yr olds. So, yeah, there might be a rise in arrests, but not because of a rise in committing the crime. |
I always thought it was stupid that when you turn 18, you have the right to do anything except drink. You can smoke, you can live on your own, get a job, have credit cards, even die for your country... but can you have a beer? No.
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Also, yes, it is confirmed that a 911 call was placed from Chuy's. I didn't see it myself although I pass by this restaurant every morning... there is a rival restaurant that has a marquee in front that typically has a kind of "thought of the day" every morning. Usually they are poking fun of someone or playing off headlines. For example, after a UT winning streak and during Pres W. Bush's campaign the sign read, "Mack Brown for Governor" (Brown is the UT Football coach).... anyway, last week, the sign read something like, Austin's #1 Snitch, Chuy's Management. (Anyone else out there in Austin see this marquee at El Arroyo?) Another thought about the "is it news?" question: Someone mentioned Jenna's appendectomy earlier... I guess I can actually see that being in the news MORE than this alcohol thing simply because I'm sure when the media heard that a 911 call for an ambulance was placed to the Governor's Mansion there could be an assumption that something was wrong with the Governor/President Elect - that seems like more of a public interest kind of thing. It's just a thought. [This message has been edited by AlphaXiGirl (edited June 04, 2001).] |
Never once did we hear about Chelsea Clinton gettting in trouble for anything. She appeared to be the wholesome girl next door. I think it is kind of interesting that the Bush girls have been in trouble for under age drinking. Coincendently, she (Chelsea) is about the same age as the Bush girls.
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"Originally posted by juniorgrrl:
*sigh* If the drinking age were 18, we wouldn't be having all this trouble. Has raising the age done anything more than criminalize a large group of people, as well as cost taxpayers more for the added burden of all the arrests for all the 18, 19 and 20 year olds who can vote, buy pornography, go to war, but can't buy a beer? *stepping off soapbox*" There was a valid reason for changing the minimum drinking age. For that very reason, many European countries are considering an increase as well. European nations have the highest rate of drinking related deaths (alcohol poisoning, drunk driving, etc.). And most of those that die as a results are those within that same young age bracket. I can't remember the paper that carried this article (very likely to be NY times) but I think the numbers had become so absurdly high that it was on the same level as a more common disease like throat cancer or heart disease (can't remember the small little details - sorry). I'll try and find the article. But then again, which college kid didn't make an attempt at drinking before they turned 21? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif |
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------------------ Steve Corbin Lambda Chi Alpha Theta Kappa Chapter Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. |
Let's face Chelsea had more brains, so did the rest of the Clintons, on the other hand, the Bushes........well..you guys (republicans) elected him.
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