Why Paris Hilton Will Never Be a Kappa Kappa Gamma
 

I saw a new book called "A Southern Belle Primer: Or Why Paris Hilton Will Never Be a Kappa Kappa Gamma." I assume it's a newer version of the "Princess Margaret" one? Has anyone read it? I love the original and will order this one if it's different enough.

They probably just changed the subtitle on the original book to make it more popular with a new generation.

The book was very cute though.

So if you had to extend a bid to one of 'em, who would it be - Miss Hilton or Princess Margaret?

Assuming that Princess Margaret was still alive, she would have the advantage of being royalty. Paris Hilton just thinks she's a princess.

But I don't see either making the cut, IMHO.

is this thread gonna turn into "who would you rather give a bid to?" cause that would be entertaining.

It's the same exact book, but with a different subtitle.

AND WHY??

ok...Hillary Duff or Ashley Olsen

Brittany Spears or Christina Aguilera

Jessica or Ashley Simpson

I see this turning into a big OMG MaryKate Olsen is an XYZ!! rumor mill.:p:p

Why was Kappa Kappa Gamma picked if Kappa was not founded in the South and thus is not usually considered to be a "Southern" sorority?

Kappa IS considered a Southern sorority. They were founded in Illinois, but you don't see a heavy Kappa concentration in the midwest...at least, not like it is in the SEC.

Yeah you do. Especially our older chapters. Granted, we aren't at every single school in the Midwest, but we are definitely here.

perhaps the author has some alligence to kkg, or perhaps it sounded the best in the title or perhaps she was granted permission to use the name.

Paris Hilton couldn't be in any sorority because she's too stupid to get into a college that doesn't include "community" or "junior" in its name. ;)

I though Ms. Hilton never even graduated from High School, dropping out of formal education at something like age 15.

I definitely think of KKG as more midwestern than southern.

Not to mention she'd be a risk management nightmare...

Because the author is a Kappa.

I don't think Maryln Schwartz is a Kappa.

I saw an interview with her when the book first came out (the one with Princess Margaret), and she said then that she was a Kappa. Of course, she could have been lying, but that's from the horse's mouth.

I looked in my directories and didn't see her name, but that's no guarantee. I haven't been able to get to the national site for a couple of days, so I can't check online (wonder what's going on?). I just don't remember anything in any issues of The Key about her being a member--I haven't seen her listed as a famous alum either. Maybe she has Kappa friends or family members?

Plus - it sounds good!

She also mentioned that she was divorced - could there be another last name, or a nom de plume?

Once I can get to the national site, I can look under her 1st name and get back to y'all.

The Kappa web server must be down because I can't get into it today either. I could on Thursday because I had to look up someone.

Hmmm, I got the same results....

I guess it's kind of strange that a northern founded sorority is considered Southern, when the opposite is somewhat the case for DG. For example, Delta Gamma was founded in Mississippi...and it's not usually mentioned in the first few names of sororities when people are referring to "Southern Sororities"

i.e. they'll usually name Phi Mu, ADPi, and XO first, before they mention Delta G. Who knows, maybe Georgia and Arkansas are considered more "Southern'y" than Mississippi. <shrug>


And...I'd give a bid to Princess Margaret before I'd bid Paris. Margaret's only gaffe (that I know of) was smoking while standing up (oh horrors!!), which I think is forgivable.

From what I have read, while Princess Elizabeth was (and is) very prim and proper, Princess Margaret liked partying and got into trouble more often.

Maybe that is why they put her in the title.

But I do not think that she got into trouble with the law like Paris Hilton did.

^ my choices ^

Back to the book - are the pictures updated? I have the original book, and the pictures are very 80s.

It's working now. There was only one "Maryln" that popped up. It didn't concern me that neither her maiden nor last name was listed as "Schwartz" because "Schwartz" could be a pen name. She does live in Texas, but her occupation has nothing to do with journalism/writing. No one popped with the last name of "Schwartz" with the occupations of journalism, publishing, or writing. I just don't think the author of the book is a Kappa.

... so would Lindsay Lohan :eek:

What is a Sorority?
 

I don't remember the source of this quote but it went something like..."a sorority is a place where Mick Jagger would be welcome, but his daughter wouldn't!" So my answer to these either/or choices would have to be neither. No class among any of them.

As far as the author, "Marlyn" using the last name Schwartz as a psuedonym, I had to laugh. Who in her right mind would choose that name? I once read that a really bumble-headed reporter met Tony Curtis' father and asked him, "So, what made you change your last name from Curtis to Schwartz?" (Tony Curtis' real name is Bernard Schwartz).

I checked the SDT directory and there were many Schwartz's listed, but no Marlyn's. It could be her married name and she uses her maiden name in the Kappa directory.

Paula M.
Sigma Delta Tau
ΣΔTPatriae Multi Spes Una One Hope of Many People

Marlyn Schwartz is not in the Kappa database.

I think the author is a Theta? I've seen interviews with her and I thought that was mentioned. Too lazy to google it, though.

Never mind. I don't know why I thought that, but I can't find anything to confirm it. Just a figment of my imagination. Please disregard.

I can't say that Kappa is considered Southern per se, but it's always been my impression that it is very strong in Texas, where Marlyn Schwartz was a columnist. But maybe I just got that from Vanities ("KKG eternally.") and from Texan Kappa friends.

Kappa is HUGE in Texas. At convention (in Orlando) it seemed like there were more Kappas from Texas than even from Florida. And even if they weren't the largest in numbers, they definitely made their presence known. They even have a couple special Texas-specific Kappa songs that the Texas chapters know (they sang them).

When I think of Kappa, I don't think of them necessarily as a southern sorority. They may be relatively stronger in the South simply because those are the schools that tend to have stronger greek life and more competitive rushes.

Who knows why Kappa was chosen, but I have the original book and I will definitely check it tonight to see if I can find a reference to the author's affiliation. It seems weird if she wasn't affiliated with Kappa that she wouldn't make some mention of it on one of the back pages or the dedication page or something.

Here is the quote from the "Princess Margaret" version:

Anyone can sign up for Rush at Southern schools. The uninitiated have no idea what to expect.

First, it is essential to have letters of recommendations from past members. These letters explain how lovely a girl is, how lovely her family is, how precious her wardrobe is, and how rich her daddy is. Alums will write anything they deem necessary to get their favorite rushees into the chapter.

One Georgia Chi Omega recalls back in the seventies that someone wrote a letter giving intimate detail of the house a rushee lived in. The letter pointed out the parents loved to entertain and would always throw great Chi O parties in Atlanta. Family connections to celebrities is a big plus too. If a girl could promise to get Mick Jagger to a sorority dance because he has business dealings with her father, that girl would probably get a Kappa bid. But Mick Jagger's daughter might have a hard time getting in even if her father came to visit every weekend.

This thread reminds me of an old one in which people were speculating that Britney Spears wanted to attend LSU and pledge Chi O there. *Shudder*!

Well, it is a great chapter! Seeing the girls that I knew from high school pledge Chi O at LSU, I felt the same way.

I'd like to think that Ms. Swartz's choice of Kappa for the title was just a random selection of a group, which like all other NPC groups, has high standards for its members.

What Would Mick Jagger Do?
 

Thank you, Fleur de Lis, for validating the quote about Mick Jagger and his daughter. I'll have to buy that book!

Paula M.
Sigma Delta Tau
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Patriae Multi Spes Una One Hope of Many People