High School girl in college world
 

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Please advise me! I am a Senior in High School taking one class this semester at my High School. I live in a big college town and take 3 classes at the University. I spend more time at the University than my High School. I am now hanging out more with the college boys than my high school friends. I cannot wait to rush next year. I do go to the parties at the Frat houses on weekends because I am invited by my friends in the houses. I have a few High School girl friends that go with me to the parties, but I don't really like hanging out with the guys I go to High School with. My question is; Am I jeopardizing my chance to be in a Sorority next year by hanging out with some college boys this year. I do attend the University, but as a concurrent student. A lot of Freshmen girls that went to my High School last year are really mad and give me dirty looks. Will they be able to keep me out of a Sorority next year. It is very important to me to rush and get into a Sorority.

Thanks,

Renee
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"Hanging out" with college boys should not hurt your chances as long as you are not doing anything with them that might lead to a bad reputation.
If you are really interested in joining a sorority, keep your grades up, be involved in activities (whether in your h.s. or the community) and read up on recruitment here on Greek Chat.
Don't worry about any perceived "dirty looks" from former high school students. While it is possible that someone who doesn't like you could try and sway the vote of her sorority, the odds are that by the time you go through recruitment most of them will barely remember you. Concentrate on presenting the best "you" that you can.
Good luck.

you might be hurting your chances.

is hanging out at the fraternity houses worth jeapordizing your chance of getting in to a sorority in a year? only you can decide.

I guess I would just say, you are obviously smart, or you wouldn't be in a joint HS/college program, so don't do anything to mess up your bright future! That includes underage drinking at frat parties, flirting with guys who may be other people's boyfriends, or behaving in any way that you might regret later.

I am not implying you are doing any of that! Just keep your eyes and your actions focused on what you want in the future, and if that includes a great college experience and sorority membership on that particular campus, it is better to be initially a little too conservative than to be a little too "out there".

As others have noted, keep your grades up and enjoy some valuable community, church, school and academic extracurriculars--that's what potential sisters will be looking for in your recruitment resume.

I guess we should have asked for a definition of "hanging out".

I thought joint enrolled students were allowed to join already - as long as if they were under 18, they had parental signature. Because if you take classes at the college, youre technically a college student, even if you have yet to graduate high school. Your GPA is also a factor. We had a joint enroll student come through recruitment one year, and even extended her a bid. Her parents requested that she wait until the following year to join. We still invited her out to stuff and recruited her the whole year long. The next year, she was working a part time job and ended up getting married and decided sorority wasn't for her. Go figure.

Also - if you're taking this many college classes already - won't you technically be considered a sophomore next year....or even if your class standing isnt officially sophomore, if you only have 3 years left at school, how will that affect your recruitment? Do you go to a college where sororities might not take sophomores, or girls who can commit to 4 years?

I'm pretty sure you have to be full time to join an NPC sorority. Three classes (unless they're 4 hours each) is not full time.

And, no, if she's only taking three classes, she probably won't have enough credits to be considered a Sophomore.

not quite true
 

Being a full time student is not a NPC requirement. It may depend on each organizations Inter/National policies. The local CPC or individual chapters may also add the requirement into their bylaws.

I know for Tri Sigma a woman must be matriculated at the university. (registered for a minimum of one class) I am an alumnae advisor at a commuter school. We often have women who are not full time students (usually 12 credit hours). I just had this confirmed again this week with our national organizaton.

However at the university I attended, there was a local college panhellenic bylaw requiring full time status.

For all intents and purposes, you are a college student, so it is understandable if you're not wanting to spend as much time with people who are still in high school. Take this time to make some friends of those freshman ladies, and especially sorority members.

It takes a very long time to build up a positive reputation, but you can earn a negative reputation in the blink of an eye. Your conduct at the fraternity houses may be completely innocent, but if you're getting the evil eye from freshmen sorority women, then they are getting a less-than-desirable impression of you. Maybe you're getting too chatty with someone's love interest or ex-boyfriend. Maybe your conduct looks unladylike. Maybe you ticked them off somehow when you attended high school together. Honestly, it doesn't matter: if they are snubbing you, they probably don't like you.

Their impression of you will most certainly affect your recruitment, as these ladies will represent that majority of the chapter make-up in their sororities next fall.

Find another weekend activity and save the fraternity parties for next fall. You can maintain your friendships with the fraternity members, but do it over lunch at the Student Union, going to a movie or cheering them on at the intramural fields.

Also, on an unrelated note: Think about applying to a variety of colleges, not just the one in your hometown. It's a wonderful growing experience, and you can always come home to take classes at the local U in the summertime. :)

Thanks for all the replies. The University I attend is an SEC school and is fairly large. I am behaving myself at the Frat houses; no sex or heavy partying. I'm a pretty good girl. I'm just ready to start my college life and I am sick of the High School drama. My University will only let full time students rush. I was definitely disappointed I couldn't rush this year. I guess I have a lot of guy friends and only a few girl friends at this point. That may be the problem. I would hate to jeopardize my rushing next year, but can't imagine not hanging out with my new guy friends. I may check out other Universities also, I just wanted to go to my hometown University because a lot of my classmates are attending here also.

If this is your real name, I recommend you change it. It's not really safe to talk too much on this site. If you say something that someone finds unacceptable, it's a lot easier to find you. It's amazing how you betray your campus with things you say making it possible to hunt you down. Use something a little more vague!:D

my daughter's dorm roommate from last year is from auburn. she told us that a lot of her h.s. classmates went to fraternity parties while in h.s., and it sabotaged a few of the girls sorority aspirations.

the way she explained it, the college girls look at the h.s. girls like they are fraternity groupies; little girls trying to pretend they are big college girls. not a good thing.

Exactly correct. She can't join an NPC if she isn't enrolled as a full-time student.

Yep, that's a possible reaction, and, I'm sorry to say, it's what crossed my mind when I read the original poster's remark, "I have a few High School girl friends that go with me to the parties . . . ."

I'll admit, I was one of those college girls who used to look down on the HS girls at the frat house. Some of them decided to rush sororities by the time they got to college, and they were blacklisted immediately. They were particularly interested in the locals because when I was there, AGD didn't really hold events with the local fraternity. I used to hang out there on the weekends because I was 19, they had free "beverages," and I was good friends with several of the brothers as my cousin is a member.

To the OP, regardless of how innocent you behave at the parties, that won't change how the girls will look at you. I know what it's like to be a 19 year old sorority girl who labels the HS girls "groupies". Don't be in such a rush to join the college world just because of high school drama because you know what? Drama follows you to college!

That said, we won't tell you to quit hanging out with your new guy friends at the house parties. However, are these guys worth jeopardizing your chances for rush next year? You'll make tons of new friends while you're in college. Don't just limit yourself to this one group.

Cosign.

And to answer your primary question (which most everyone else has), I have seen PNMs released for doing these activities just in the summer preceding freshman year. I can only imagine what a whole year's worth of partying and hanging out at fraternity houses would do.

I hate to go all James on everyone....buuuut...

Can anyone really see a group of college guys wanting to be friends with a highschool girl for honorable reasons?? Honestly???

I'm totally with you on this one.... and I can't say I've had personal experience with the whole "high school girls hanging out w/ college fraternity guys" thing... but I think I'd probably see them as groupies too regardless of not getting physical with them or partying too much.

Soooo if you're "sick of HS drama" why would you want to go to school where your classmates are going? Maybe I misunderstood that... but it sounds like a school where lots of ppl from your HS are going? Even if you move clear across the country, there is always drama in college.

Just a thought.

I have also seen PNMs released for their summer activities-- they come up as first semester freshmen in the summertime. The campus is quiet, but the fraternity houses are still open, there are casual parties and nights out-- but just hanging out at the fraternity houses, I have seen those girls do and say things that has come back to bite them in the butt at recruitment time. And some of the girls probably didn't say or do anything-- they just created an unintentional perception that followed them to recruitment.

I hate to generalize, but you really have blown it if you're a senior in high school and you're already the fraternity house groupie... Guys talk, girls talk, people just start thinking things... High school drama has nothing on college. And the drama exists in the working world, too. You can't escape it. I think people are best off flying in under the radar.

I really think a PNM's best shot is go in as a first semester freshman with a clean, drama-free slate where you don't have any war stories to be shared and everyone sees you as a ladylike superstar with a lot to offer.

Sad to say but NO.
As Jimmy Buffet wrote: "Fins to the left, fins to the right, your the only game in town." Or something close to that. Next on Singing Bee.....;)

Back to the point, this unfortunately is like upper class men and freshman women. And I posted about my own chapter about that awhile ago in RM.:(

The OP, IMVHO, should stay clear of any male living/social group.

And OP, write John ASAP and have your name changed if that is your real name.

So is it possible that the OP is not the real Renee but one of those dastardly high school girls trying to ruin her chances at recruitment? This whole post smells fishy to me....

Sounds like a plan hatched by one of Batman's enemies! It's crazy....but it just might work!!!!:mad:

Diabolical!

No...add a shark and some honey....THAT would be diabolical!

Someone beat me to the reality check. :)

Everyone's situation is by definition unique, and human relationships can be complex . . .

However, the OP has to be aware that there are a lot of guys with very little . . uhm . . . whats the word? Scruples?

So there might be a lot of guys in the house that will regard you as a little sister type to be protected and amused, but there are also a lot of dorky desperate guys that will take whatever they think you are freely offering.

And fraternities in general seem to attract more than their fair share of dorky desperate guys.

Also, if you are thinking of the future, a lot of higher status males won't want much to do with you if you have been passed around 2 or 3 of their brothers, especially if those brothers are much lower on the social totem poll than they are, which is probably the case if they are messing with someone still more or less in high school.

I have seen that happen where an otherwise pretty, intelligent girl will be skipped over by guys because of who she used to date or fool around with.

As far as how it will hurt your Rush . . . Come on. You are a girl. You know the deal. Girls are looking for reasons to love or hate you. Hanging out and partying with boys they know (and maybe sort of regard as theirs) seems to always get negative feedback.

:confused::confused:
I would under stand shark and blood or bees and honey or even bears and honey.
But Shark and honey???:confused:
Lost or missing something there.

And I am not sure that this thread from the OP is a tall tail.
Could be wrong, hoping that I am not.

I would add to your list: Silver Tonged Devils.

It doesn't make sense, but neither did any of the plots to kill Batman! Just random things that would take a miracle to work.

Also...Does anyone remember the game, Scruples? It's a great drinking game...my friend had an old one but it was missing many of the questions. I wish I could find a complete one!

Or maybe I'm mixing two plots...I'm starting to remember something about Shark Repellent...

All I need is Shark's with freaking laser beams attached to their heads . . .

And we'll hold her ransom for....one MILLION dollars!!!!

SCRUPLES!!!! I loved how that game could make people squirm! ...'would you rather swim with sharks with laser beams or be a helicopter parent on GC?' :D you couldn't win with some of those questions! I bet you can find it on ebay for next to nothing.

Muahaha......

:eek:Is this thread now a train wreak or a NASCAR race??:confused:

eBay is your friend, AOPi Angel! :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Scruples-Game_W0...QQcmdZViewItem

It's neither! oh...was that a Scruples question?

More like the Titanic.

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Navy Hymn: http://home.flash.net/~tomj/tunny/sounds/Navyhymn.html
http://ssbn656.20m.com/navy_hymn.html
http://www.lilesnet.com/patriotic/music/navy_hymn.htm

OK, we are now all on report and this thread shortly will be closed.:D:p:)

Sir, Yes Sir!