Any ASU Greek Girls Out There? Need Advice Please
 

Hi Ladies,
My dtgr. will be attending ASU next fall and is thinking about joining a Sorority. She's excited about the possibility and is already starting to do her homework by talking to family members who were Pi Phi and Theta members at Oklahoma University. I found this forum and thought I'd do my best to help her out by researching the different sororities at Arizona State. Could anyone be so kind as to give their own personal take on the Sororities @ ASU. I understand we all have different opinions and in the end my dtgr. will have to make her own decision if asked to join. It would be a great help to hear what others have to say who have already been there or are there now and what their experiences were/are like now. We're told each house is different. So please, if you don't mind, what's your own personal take good and bad(yes, there's always the good w/the bad)with each Sorority?
Thank-you for your time. Glad I found this forum and will direct my dtgr. to it a.s.a.p. to learn as much about Greek living as possible.
Sincerely,
AZ MOM

While yours is the most nicely-worded request I can recall, it is still a request for an individual opinion. I think I can speak for most GCers when I say we don't like to characterize sorority chapters - it is too easy to stereotype or to be biased. Plus, unless you are talking to a current collegian, the odds are that the opinion being offered is based on an analysis of members who aren't even there anymore. Things can change quickly in the Greek world - one or two great pledge classes can turn a chapter around.
So my advice is to have your daughter poke around here and especially read the stickies on the recruitment pages. If she visits the campus, she should try to meet some sorority members if possible. And above all else, she should try to keep an open mind as she goes through recruitment.
I hope she has the best of luck, and finds a wonderful sisterhood.

Not to nitpick, but it's the University of Oklahoma, not Oklahoma University.

Best to lurk, with an occasional 'thanks'.....and unless you're teflon, you'd better use the search function before asking a question. Some of'em get really hungry right before lunch.


I kid.

Thank-you for your kind words SWTXBelle. Being from the Midwest we were taught you always catch more "flies w/honey than vinegar." I appreciate you taking the time to reply but still would appreciate to hear from others and their own personal opinions. Being the wonderful age of 49, I do hope those who are now past the college age might have some wonderful stories to share to encourage those who are thinking of joining a Sorority as well as those still involved. It sometimes puts a smile on a womans face @ my age to relive a wonderful moment or time from yrs. ago that still makes us grin and at this state we need all we can get. (lol) My dtgr. is in the process of trying to locate sorority members on campus but being AZ has only 6% sorority membership they aren't as easy to find. She's still working on it. I totally agree w/you "open mind" through recruitment is the name of the game.
Again, thank-you and hopefully I'll hear from some great ASU Greeks out there......
Sincerely,
AZMOM

No matter how sweetly you ask it, you're still asking a big NO-NO question.

Please refrain from further pursuing this, no matter how nicely you ask.

Not to nitpick? Then how do you define nitpick darlin? I was born and raised in Oklahoma and we call it both. All my siblings graduated from there and they call it both. Go figure? We find more important things to nitpick over....
Thanks for the reply though.....

I like you Helicopter1 you obviously have a great sense of humor which I'm finding is a must on this forum.
Thanks for the heads-up, maybe lunch could be on me if it could lighten the mood around here. lol
Come on Ladies, let's by civil, shall we?

And the only way to do this is to refrain from asking what you've come here to ask. Surely you understand why everyone is so tactfully trying to move you away from this subject. Its in your best interest, for your daughter as well, that you don't keep insisting. The best advice anyone can give your daughter is found in the Sorority Recruitment forum.

AlphaFrog, strange response. Not sure where you're from but it's a very honest, sincere question. Why you responded the way you did is alarming to me. I'll just let it go at that.
Again, anyone from Arizona State if you even belong to this forum, I'd love to hear from you.
Thank-you.....

Where I'm from makes no difference. I don't care how honest or sincere your question is...it's still inappropriate.
STOP ASKING.

Lisa,
As tactfully as I know how to ask this question. Why is there such fear in asking a simple question that girls here seem terrified in answering? Is it just this forum or this the way the Greeks live? Don't ask and don't answer? This is rather shocking to me....

You're talking to a 4th generation Sooner, getting my 5th degree from the University of Oklahoma, who was also born and raised here, so you should know better than to call it Oklahoma University, unless you're from the sticks.

Also, you don't ask that question, which predisposes people to not be nice.

ps. Daughter has the g before the t, so to abbreviate it would be dgtr, not dtgr.

AlphaFrog, you don't define what is wrong or right in my life. I do find you rude and will no longer reply to you. I'd appreciate it if you would just move on. You have nothing of value to offer me or my dtgr. by barking out orders. Never ever tell a person what they should or shouldn't do. Very inappropriate! Go eat lunch....
Sincerely,
AZMOM

This has already been answered for you, not once, but twice:



(I bolded what you should commit to memory, but the rest of each of the above quotes are just as important.)

Its about being polite & tactful-and not asking others to speak poorly of an organization's chapters.

LOLLERZ.

Bolded = more irony than I can stand.

Ok, this is heading down a bad road and it's frustrating to even read.

AZMom, it's great you came to find info. for your daughter and you're sure to find lots of it here. The link Lisa gave you will take you to a forum that should keep you busy for hours just reading all kinds of recruitment (and by default, sorority) info.

But in your original post, you made it sound like you're looking for some ASU folks to give you a blow-by-blow of what the "good" houses are and the "not so good" houses are at that campus. I don't know how to do the fancy quote-within-a-post-thing here yet, but here's what you said:

"We're told each house is different. So please, if you don't mind, what's your own personal take good and bad (yes, there's always the good w/the bad) with each Sorority?"

You are on a forum with people from every different sorority and fraternity from across the country and beyond; there is no way someone who is a current collegian or alumna in a greek organization is going to actually answer that question. We respect our organizations too much and all of the other Panhellenic organizations too much to presume to air out what's "good" or "bad" about other groups, particularly since that's completely subjective anyway.

If your daughter wants that "who's the best/worst" kind of overview of what is perceived at the ASU campus, she's more likely to find it talking to the non-Greeks in Tempe.

The other posters here are actually trying to be helpful to you, they just don't want you to continue to ask questions that seem to want that kind of feedback because it will, unfortunately, welcome even hotter "flaming."

Oh my, I find this so funny! :D I haven't lol'd so much online in a while.

AZMOM, the reason Alpha Frog and others have told you to stop asking this question is because it is impolite. It'd be like me asking everyone you know to tell me what you're like, without getting to know you myself. Some people will say, "She's crazy," some will say, "She's the best!", others will say, "She used to be a coke-head." Some might say, "She's fat," some will say, "She only likes people who have lots of money," still, others will say, "She's crazy." (Oh, more than one person said that last thing, so it must be true, right?)

It simply doesn't matter what others think of the sororities at ASU. It will only matter what your daughter thinks. Stereotypes are just that, and asking people to list stereotypes on a public forum is ill-mannered.

Dear Nitty & Sydney,
Thank-you for your input and honest replies. You've answered a very simple question with great detail and honesty.
Sydney, I got a laugh reading your response. You too, have a great sense of humor. Don't ever lose that, it's invaluable as you get older. However, I assure you the last thing I wanted or needed was a detailed description of the girls living in the house. Not sure where that assumption came from? I wanted the personality of each chapter. Ladies.....you will learn as you get older there's never such a thing as a dumb question. It's those who don't or didn't ask that live w/the most regret. I speak from experience. I've always taught my children ask a lot of ???'s before making a decision and always find out the good as well as the bad. You save yourself so much pain by being informed as opposed to being uninformed.The question wasn't to hurt or upset anyone it was to gather info. to make a decision based on the best knowledge given. It really is that simple....
Again, thanks for the laughs, the insight and hopefully we all learned something today?
Lunch anyone? lol Sorry, I love a good laugh......
Sincerely,
AZMOM

SydneyK said it best:



I think that the more time you spend around GreekChat you'll learn that the majority of us are alums from our organizations and range in age from 25-year olds to 50-year olds. So maybe you'll begin to understand that its not our age difference that is the problem-its the tactless question you've asked.

The girls in the house ARE the ones who make up the personality of each chapter. Not the other way around. And with large chapters, it's very unlikely that everyone will share exactly the same values and interests.

No one is going to say "ABC is the athlete house" or "XYZ is the party house" because there are athletes and partiers in EVERY chapter.

Lisa,
What ya say we call it a day? Not sure why you felt the need to attack but if it made you feel better, then great. My question was not tactless it was informative. Let's just move on, shall we?
Ladies, hope you all have a "great day."
Sincerely,
AZMOM

If you felt "attacked" on this thread, then GC is NOT the place for you.

How about you take a trip over to Happy Pony Rainbow Land??

I've been one of the nicest people to you so far. If you stick around GC you might learn something, like the fact that your question is tactless and inconsiderate. I suggest you spend more time reading the existing threads regarding recruitment so that you don't continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

WHat is wrong with her wanting to help her pretty, smart, funny, loving, fug, great, so-on and so-on dtgr (lol) like every other ABCMom on GC. SHe just wants to know so she won't have to withdraw her daughter from a school where she won't get bids. Remember the mom who said Auburn sucked.


Just kidding:rolleyes:....kinda

This is the best response I've seen to this question yet, and I plan to use it in my personal life when people say "oh you were an xyz, I heard they were all (fill in the blank with unkind word of your choosing.)" My response will be "well if that's what you heard than it must be true!":rolleyes:

I think that's a bad example if you're trying to argue that it's inappropriate to inquire about sororities. If I'm going on a blind date, and I know people who have met my date before, I will definitely ask them all what they think of him. And if some of them answer, "He used to be a cokehead," or "he only likes people who have a lot of money," you better believe I'm going to take that into consideration! If multiple people who know him tell me that he's crazy...I'm canceling the date.
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LIVE SEX

Warned ya.

You seem like a nice person. Let's have cyberlunch.

I'd send you a PM, but my employers seem to think that work is more important than greekchat.

But you can't generalize an entire chapter of women off the descriptions of just 1 or 2 or 10 people. Thats pretty much what the original poster needs to understand.

Honest question from a non-OU person who lives in Oklahoma - why is it shortened to OU? I went to the University of Illinois, which would never be called Illinois University, and we always shortened it to U of I or UIUC.

AZMOM - if you're concerned about things like hazing and such, I would do a search of the online edition of ASU's student newspaper and see if anyone's name comes up.

If you want to hear from people at ASU, I suggest collegeconfidential.com or looking on myspace, facebook and live journal sites pertaining to ASU.

Greek Chat is NOT going to tell you which house is which stereotype and which is the most and least popular.

You're a doll Helicopter1. Cyberlunch on me. I'm realizing with each post how grateful I am to be away from all of this. However, it does make for fun reading and I needed a good laugh today. Forget work, I think I'll subscribe to Nat'l Enquirer after this forum.
Have a great day.....
Again, thanks
Sincerely,
AZMOM

Because it just is. Maybe because it is easier to yell in a chant.

Listen AZMom, if you have taught your daughter to ask lots of ????, then let her do the asking. You have to raise them and then let them go. Enjoy watching her fly!

Some people call it Oklahoma University which is why they chant OU and some call it the University of Oklahoma. It's truly no big deal to the people who live there. They just love the school regardless of the formalities....
Hope this helps....
Sincerely,
AZMOM

How right you are Bamamom13. She's good at asking questions. I'm loving seeing her fly as well as my son who's attending the UA which is ASU's biggest rival during football season. Now, I'm in trouble....lol
Thanks for your input.....
Sincerely,
AZMOM

Great info. 33girl. I just read your post (was answering private messages). I'll do just that. Thanks for the help.
Sincerely,
AZMOM

It is good to ask questions before joining a sorority, but in my opinion, an online forum is not the best place to do so. Your daughter should be speaking with current ASU students who are active members of various chapters (as well as alumnae). She should also consult the Greek Life Office if she has questions about membership in general. The internet is not going to give her the information she truly needs, especially if everyone on GreekChat were to chime in with their own opinions, gossip, etc. about the various ASU chapters (which as you know, isn't going to happen).

I can type on GC until my fingers are cramped about how great my sisterhood is, but unless you come and visit with members of my organization (actives and alumnae), and participate in our events and service projects that are open to all, you are not going to get a true sense of whether my organization is for you. This is why I say that your daughter should meet sorority members in person.

Further, every chapter is going to have "good" and "bad" sides to it. What matters is what is best for your daughter. Only she can make this decision. I think it's great that you are supportive of your daughter joining a sorority, so please continue to encourage her to seek out actual actives and alumnae in her area of the various organizations to help her with her decision-making process. Best of luck!

What a heartfelt answer Latina, thank-you!! You're absolutely right about not getting the info. I need on-line. The private messages I've gotten are awesome and very supportive. It really helped me in my second guessing of the Greek's along with answers like yours. My dtgr. is doing her best to get with other girls @ ASU but they are far and few between. She has a ton of friends from several schools including ASU but none belong or know of any who belong to a sorority. She'll keep looking, she's assertive and resourceful.
You're incredibly insightful, intelligent and sensitive Latina. Your sorority is very lucky to have you.
Again, thank-you
Sincerely,
AZMOM

^^Thank you. I am the lucky one, to have my sisters! :)