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Zillini 08-05-2007 09:00 AM

University of Alabama Recruitment 2007
 
Since so many people have asked me about Bama’s Recruitment I decided to start a thread. There are 15 Chapters on campus but on 14 will be participating in Formal Recruitment. SDT will have an informational tent for PNM's to visit.

In 2006 we had a total of 1357 PNM’s signed up for Recruitment. As of today (8/5) there are 1307 signed up with a week to go. Everyone anticipated another large increase over last year since that has been the annual trend. However unless there’s a major surge in last minute signups, it appears we may have roughly the same amount as 2006 which resulted in Freshman quota of 69 and Upperclassmen quota of 6.

Additional parties and breaks in the days were added to the first and second rounds. This will cut down on over crowding in the houses and hopefully encourage everyone to rehydrate and eat. August in Bama is miserable with the heat and humidity. Last year there were several cases of PNM's and actives collapsing.

Open House/Round 1: Monday 8/13 – 14 parties; Tuesday 8/14 – 9 parties; PNM’s attend 14 Chapters out of 23 total parties

Philanthropy Day/Round 2: Wednesday 8/15 – 8 parties; Thursday 8/16 – 6 parties; PNM’s may accept invitations to 11 of the 14 total parties

Skit Day/Round 3: Friday 8/17 – 7 parties; PNM’s may accept 7 invitations

Pref Night: Saturday 8/18 – 3 parties; PNM’s may accept 3 invitations

Bid Day: Sunday 8/19; Bids distributed at 5pm


*ETA: As of 8/7 there were 1379 PNM's signed up.

**ETA: As of 8/10 there were1403 PNM's signed up

banditone 08-05-2007 09:05 AM

Because of the heat, they should make bikini tops allowable.

dgdramadawg 08-05-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1497175)
Additional parties and breaks in the days were added to the first and second rounds. This will cut down on over crowding in the houses and hopefully encourage everyone to rehydrate and eat. August in Bama is miserable with the heat and humidity. Last year there were several cases of PNM's and actives collapsing.

What a great idea!

dukemama 08-05-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dgdramadawg (Post 1497209)
What a great idea!

Seconded. This makes me glad that Duke had/s deferred recruitment, because late summer in central NC can be dreadfully hot.

AnchorAlumna 08-06-2007 02:53 PM

Thank you, Zillini...keep us informed!

violetpretty 08-06-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by banditone (Post 1497178)
Because of the heat, they should make bikini tops allowable.

OOOh maybe they'll have to change their topless pillowfights to NAKED pillow fights. :rolleyes:

bamabelle99 08-06-2007 08:55 PM

ROLL TIDE!

Keep us posted! You always have the inside scoop!

bamagirl09 08-06-2007 10:11 PM

SDT is not going to be participating in recruitment this year, although they will be having a tent outside their house for girls to take a break at. Also, there are right at 1400 girls signed up to participate. It should end up close to last year as far as quota is concerned.

bamagirl09 08-06-2007 10:13 PM

Oh, and there PNM's can go to 11 houses on phil. day. They changed that last year to give girls more options.

Zillini 08-07-2007 08:31 AM

Thanks Bamagirl09! I'll make the appropriate corrections.

According to ICS this morning (8/7) there are 1379 PNM's signed up. Yesterday there had been no change. 72 were added in one day. Wow!

amanda6035 08-07-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1497175)
Open House/Round 1: Monday 8/13 – 14 parties; Tuesday 8/14 – 9 parties; PNM’s attend 14 Chapters out of 23 total parties

You mean they dont get to meet all chapters to start with???? Or I did totally misunderstand something?

AlphaFrog 08-07-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1498245)
You mean they dont get to meet all chapters to start with???? Or I did totally misunderstand something?

There are only 14 chapters participating in R at Bama.

23 parties to make them easier to manage.

OleMissGlitter 08-07-2007 10:33 AM

Wow! Keep us posted! I can't wait to hear how Alabama Recruitment goes this year!

amanda6035 08-07-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1498248)
There are only 14 chapters participating in R at Bama.

23 parties to make them easier to manage.

oh. :o I guess that makes sense. Hah. My brain is on another planet this morning.

Zillini 08-07-2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1498245)
You mean they dont get to meet all chapters to start with???? Or I did totally misunderstand something?

There are 14 Chapters participating in Recruitment but we have 23 total parties in the first round. In other words the PNM's will be divided into 23 Recr groups and every group will visit every Chapter. Each group will have 9 off parties or breaks, but the actives will have to "work" 23 parties.

AZ-AlphaXi 08-07-2007 10:58 AM

As a matter of curiosity ... what will the PNMs be doing during their "off" parties? I hope they aren't sitting outside ... and I can't imagine that panhellenic will set them free ...

SWTXBelle 08-07-2007 01:09 PM

Is it bad that I'm thinking . .

If you love a pnm, set her free.
If she comes back, she is yours.
If not, she never was.
:rolleyes:

Zillini 08-07-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi (Post 1498264)
As a matter of curiosity ... what will the PNMs be doing during their "off" parties? I hope they aren't sitting outside ... and I can't imagine that panhellenic will set them free ...

You know, I feel rather stupid right now but this hadn't dawned on me before. It's an excellent question. I'm not sure how Panhellenic plans to set these breaks up. Will some PNM groups have delayed start times or will the breaks be intermixed throughout the days? I'll have to ask unless someone here already has the answer.

Last year there were a few extra rounds scattered throughout the 2 days. (Sorry, I can't recall exactly how many.) There were tents set up with chairs, water and fans. Parties last only 20 minutes with 10 minutes in between, so that's not much time to really go anywhere. I'm not sure if they're even allowed to. I guess I just assumed it would be similar this year but with so many more breaks it could be different.

honeychile 08-07-2007 09:38 PM

I'm guessing that having something cool to drink, and relaxing one's tootsies is going to be high on the list!

UGAalum94 08-07-2007 09:51 PM

Having a few extra round makes sense to me, but to have 9 extra rounds seems a little hard on the current members.

Was the issue mainly that all the groups would have to double rush during first round because of the number of PNMs?

violetpretty 08-07-2007 11:39 PM

We do the first round like this at Maryland. The first round takes place over 2 days, and PNMs see 7 chapters each day. Seven chapters rent rooms in the Union the first day, and the other seven rent the rooms the second day. The PNMs are broken into 3 "shifts" for round 1, approximately 8-12, 12-4, and 4-8. Each chapter hosts 21 parties, 7 for each shift. Since only a fixed number of actives are allowed to be in the room, this system allows chapters to switch actives in and out so no one (except the President, VP Recruitment, and appropriate advisors) has to be there for 12 hours. (Or a chapter can choose to keep the same 30 or so pretty girls there all day:rolleyes:)

bamagirl09 08-07-2007 11:42 PM

I think the biggest issue is that some of the houses can not physically accomodate the number of pnm's and active members at once. The rho chi groups are still over sixty pnms. So sixty girls plus 120 active members is a whole lot of people in the house at once. Also, there are 22 or 23 rho chi groups so on the first two days all the groups have to have the opportunity to visit the houses. If there weren't so many groups, there wouldn't be so many parties, obviously. I think, but I'm not sure, the during breaks girls will be able to go into Tutwiler (the nearby girl's dorm) and rest or sit under a tent set up around a couple of the houses. I could be wrong about that though. Panhellenic gives all the girls water, but shade, or the lack thereof, on sorority row is a big problem.

Zillini 08-08-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1498615)
Was the issue mainly that all the groups would have to double rush during first round because of the number of PNMs?

That's part of it, but more importantly the Fire Marshall was having fits about so many people being inside the houses at one time.

Last night I was told Harris Hall (another nearby building) would also be open for PNM's during their off times.

AlphaFrog 08-08-2007 10:10 AM

I'm still have trouble believing that almost all freshmen who maximize their options and will accept any chapter (let's face it, some are better than others, but ANY house at Bama's going to give you a pretty quality experience) actually DO get bids....Is that really true? I know I read it somewhere on here...

Zillini 08-08-2007 10:47 AM

I'm a little confused by your question AlphaFrog. Are you asking how many PNM's don't get bids or how many don't accept them or what exactly?

I will offer this as coincidentally I was just printing off a copy of our past years Recruitment Stats from the UA Panhellenic website. In 2006 78% of all women who attended Open House received bids. 88% were matched to their 1st choice, 10% to their 2nd and 2% to their 3rd. Very few women were completely released.

Obviously we don't know why those who voluntarily withdrew did so. As with any campus, some probably didn't receive invites back to the Chapter(s) they wanted and some decided they didn't really want to be Greek at all.

AlphaFrog 08-08-2007 10:53 AM

I think that you answered my question...78% is pretty high. And the way people talk about Bama, you'd think that 78% would be the percent released completely, instead of the placement rate...

I guess I was really wondering about those released completely as opposed to those who maximize and take whatever chapter they are matched with. I'm not much concerned with those who drop because they'd rather die than be an XYZ...

Zillini 08-08-2007 11:07 AM

Again according to the 2006 stats (link in previous post) less than 1.5% of the total PNM's participating were completely released.

WVU alpha phi 08-08-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1498681)
We do the first round like this at Maryland. The first round takes place over 2 days, and PNMs see 7 chapters each day. Seven chapters rent rooms in the Union the first day, and the other seven rent the rooms the second day. The PNMs are broken into 3 "shifts" for round 1, approximately 8-12, 12-4, and 4-8. Each chapter hosts 21 parties, 7 for each shift. Since only a fixed number of actives are allowed to be in the room, this system allows chapters to switch actives in and out so no one (except the President, VP Recruitment, and appropriate advisors) has to be there for 12 hours. (Or a chapter can choose to keep the same 30 or so pretty girls there all day:rolleyes:)


Maybe I'm missing something but UMD has sorority houses, why are they renting rooms in the Union for rush?

AlphaFrog 08-08-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi (Post 1498893)
Maybe I'm missing something but UMD has sorority houses, why are they renting rooms in the Union for rush?

We had our first round in the Union at my university - it's cheaper for PHC (no renting buses), and quicker, since you're all in the same building...plus it puts everyone on an even playing field for the first round (which actually hurt our chapter more than helped, because we had one of the bigger, more beautiful houses on campus, but a smaller chapter.

WVU alpha phi 08-08-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1498895)
We had our first round in the Union at my university - it's cheaper for PHC (no renting buses), and quicker, since you're all in the same building...plus it puts everyone on an even playing field for the first round (which actually hurt our chapter more than helped, because we had one of the bigger, more beautiful houses on campus, but a smaller chapter.


Gotcha, thanks!

KSUViolet06 08-08-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1498895)
We had our first round in the Union at my university.


Same here. The first two rounds (Go greek & philanthropy day) at my school were held in our Student Center. PNMs didn't visit the chapter houses until round 3, which was House Tours/Video night.

UGAalum94 08-08-2007 07:04 PM

And it was 78% of those who attended first round, rather than 78% of those who completed recruitment.

If only 1.5% were released completely, to some degree it means that 98.5% of PNM might have matched but 20% took themselves out of the game.

elainebenice 08-09-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi (Post 1498264)
As a matter of curiosity ... what will the PNMs be doing during their "off" parties? I hope they aren't sitting outside ... and I can't imagine that panhellenic will set them free ...


visit "the strip"??? it is tuscaloosa afterall....

AnchorAlumna 08-09-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elainebenice (Post 1499355)
visit "the strip"??? it is tuscaloosa afterall....

WAY too hot to walk that far.

Zillini 08-10-2007 09:45 AM

Today's update: As of right now (8/10) there are 1403 PNM's registered.

At Tuesday's meeting, Panhellenic projected there will be 1452 total PMN's with Quota being 86 (combined Freshmen & Upperclassmen, no break down provided).

Yesterday was the hottest day of the summer so far. Temp was 105F with continued triple digit days forecast thru next week. The power went out for a few hours on campus including sorority row. For those familiar with campus, it extended all the way to at least 15th St. Police officers manned every intersection directing traffic. It was a nightmare trying to get to the house. Needless to say all the houses got very warm during workshops. Cross your fingers this doesn't happen during Recruitment!!!

banditone 08-10-2007 10:06 AM

"will be 1452 total PMN's with Quota being 86"

Is that high/low/average?

That would HAVE to be high I'd think. Wow.

AnchorAlumna 08-10-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1499974)
Today's update: As of right now (8/10) there are 1403 PNM's registered.

At Tuesday's meeting, Panhellenic projected there will be 1452 total PMN's with Quota being 86 (combined Freshmen & Upperclassmen, no break down provided).

WOW! (said with gasp and croak)
Has your A/C man serviced the equipment? Here's hoping it keeps going strong!

Zillini 08-10-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by banditone (Post 1499984)
"will be 1452 total PMN's with Quota being 86"

Is that high/low/average?

That would HAVE to be high I'd think. Wow.

If that prediction proves to be accurate, it will be almost 100 more than last year and the largest PNM group and Quota ever at UA. FYI - Last year we set a new record. So did the year before that and the year before that.

AZ-AlphaXi 08-10-2007 11:12 AM

WOW!! good thing panhellenic scheduled all those additional parties ... I can just see PNM groups of 100+ plus all the chapter's actives stuffed in to houses .. its to hot to even think about moving any part outside .. even if there was an appropriate area ..

not to mention with that many PNMs in a group and the shortness of the first open house parties .. you'd barely get the last one in the door when it would be time to
try to start getting them all out again ..

and then I have this vision of the fire marshall sailing in and announcing that people have to leave the house RIGHT NOW !!

good luck with keeping the air up and on full blast ...

violetpretty 08-10-2007 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1499974)
Today's update: As of right now (8/10) there are 1403 PNM's registered.

At Tuesday's meeting, Panhellenic projected there will be 1452 total PMN's with Quota being 86 (combined Freshmen & Upperclassmen, no break down provided).

So this quota of 86 is just a projection and not a final number? Does it account for PNMs dropping out or is it the maximum projected quota? I can't imagine why a Campus Panhellenic would set quota before preference, because obviously some PNMs will drop out. The big would get bigger and the small would get smaller.


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