Iota President @ SIUE held under $1 million bond.
 

http://media.www.thealestle.com/medi...-2927179.shtml

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...t_N.htm?csp=34

:eek:

In a post-Virginia Tech world, I am glad that the authorities are being harsh on such things.

How did an undeclared freshman become President of a Greek organization?! That has to be a typo/error.

That was the first thing that stuck out to me as well.

Freshman by hours? Yeah I don't know how that works either, and SIUE doesn't do anything funny with their class ranking either I don't think.

Speculation..... he may have pledged as a second semester freshman and no one else is left in the chapter, so he is President by default. Iota chapters tend to be small.

ETA: And he's "still" a freshman because maybe he failed some classes.

I think the article said he was on academic suspension...

Where's Starang? He's an Iota isn't he?

When I first read the headline, I thought they meant the national organization's president, which he's NOT.

It's a strange story by any measure, but it seems much easier to understand how he might have become president if he is one of the very few members of a particular chapter.

What a shame that people are emphasizing his Greek affiliation in coverage of the story. What's up with that?

ETA: I admit that I didn't know was SIUE was, and the headline of the first story doesn't tip it off.

In my opinion, to the average reader of the news, i think "fraternity chapter president" makes a more compelling story than "average slacker" which seems to be more accurate. I'd expect something similar if he was captain of a sports team.

Why did you post that here and not in the Iota forum? Better yet, why did you, an Omega, post it at all? Lastly, if it had been an Omega would you have posted it?

Ditto....

But from what I understand they were pretty active at both SIUs.

If he was a Que, would I have posted it?--yeah. Where to post it? That's a call I made. It's not really an "Iota" story per se. That aspect is just a journalistic angle, I suppose. Maybe it should have gone in the general news section. Moreover, though, by posting something about someone in an organization is not necessarily casting aspersions on an organization. For every story about some Greek doing something good or ill, it can replicated in every group. One thing I was interested in doing was starting some dialogue about why the story was framed as it was. I originally saw this story on a Greek News website. This was the major reason why I put it here, esp. after I saw the threads about the TV show on the ABC Family Channel. That's more frivolous; this is more important as a way of possibly delving into issues about perceptions about Greek Life in the broader world.

Woah now, I think this is a pretty big news story that could end up affecting ALL Greeks. I don't think it's inappropriate for him to post it in the general fourms. If the Iotas want to start their own discussion about it, they will. And if the Que didn't post it, someone else would have anyway. This isn't something that's going to end up hush-hush.

He posted it here because it's something of interest to the greek community. It might have been better placed in the Risk Management forum, but I suppose this works, too.

It's not really RM, though, since it was a personal activity, not a chapter activity. Maybe N&P, but I really think it belongs right here.

nope...but surely someone else would have...


but anyways...Iotas...get ya boy!!!

The Iota chapter here at SIUC is pretty active, but I'm not sure about the one at SIUE.

What's interesting, I read in our campus newspaper back in April or May about a fraternity president at SIUE getting in trouble and when I heard about his when it started, I assumed it was the same thing. Now I'm wondering what I heard about initially.

Really? How?

You are right fellow Salukian, this did happen back then.

Then why didn't you preface your post as such?

So you are in his head?

The point is, one's Greek affiliation shouldn't matter when posting news stories about Greeks.

And any time the word fraternity or sorority gets attached to someone who does or is suspected of doing something stupid, crazy, or violent, it affects the entire Greek community.

Also, multiquote function. It can be your friend. Click it on each post you want to reply to and then click post reply.

I don't have to. This is a forum for all to speak to issues as they see fit. I prefer to just put the stories out there. I do this in this forum and others. I assume that the people here have critical thinking skills that they can employ. They may have other things to say according to their concerns and perspectives. That's what makes this forum interesting (and messy at times!).

Moreover, with the Internet there is a real democratization of information. No one has control over what's out here--no organization, person, pressure group, etc.As in scholarly circles, there is a real sense that there is a peer review process for whatever gets our there. If it's in the public domain, then it's futile to act as if one implicitly has special right to anything, even if it's about your organization. That's the blessing and bane of this medium.

What are you talking about?

Within the NPHC it does matter. That's the point you and others don't get.

how does it matter? The journalist/reporter reported the defendent's (sp) Greek affiliation not Wolfman

I agree...

This is the multiquote feature...it's the middle button between "Quote" and "Quick Reply" on the bottom right. You just push that button on all the posts you want to reply to, then push "Post Reply" and they all show up. Like this:

So, Wolfman shouldn't have posted it, because he's a Que, but your other contention is that someone wouldn't have posted that about their own Frat. SOOOO....that leaves someone in the IFC/NIC/NPC GLOs to post it. Would that have made you happier????

Exactly.

I know Iota is like the odd man out of the NPHC and I think that attitude is stupid. That said, the other NPHC members don't seem to agree with your stance which suggests it is YOUR stance, not the NPHC stance.

Someone help me understand something. If he was on academic probation and sat out a year because of it, how is his gpa high enough to participate in any campus activity, much less be president of a chapter?

I haven't been able to figure out the probation/freshman status/president bit of it myself.

I get it.

I agree with her.

So what are we missing then? And why are the other D9 members not making an issue of it. It's not like this was private information.

I can't speak for all but to me it's like he was making fun of Iota. I really, really don't think he would have posted this here in the Greek Life section if it had been an Omega man. But then again, that's my issue not anyone else's.

As for your question about "other D9 members not making an issue of it" -- No, we don't all think alike.

It must have taken one hell of a giant rabbit to make that big of a leap.

No response.

I either didn't see or don't recall seeing any other part to the post other than the links. But if there wasn't any other information given, how is that making fun of Iota?

And I wouldn't be surprised that most of us wouldn't be as quick to post bad news about our own GLO, even though it is a news story. But I don't think you can shoot the messenger for bringing it here. Nor do I see a reason why it shouldn't be in Greek Life. You could argue that it also belonged in the Iota forum or another D9 forum, but it's perfectly appropriate here.

We've already had a member torn apart by GC. No one said 'omg Sigma Kappa is the worst ever!', they were comments on the individual member. Same goes here.
How many people do you think are thinking, 'OMG Iota sucks so hard now look who they picked up and what happened?'

No one who has read this thread and posted in it is mocking Iota.