Clinton or Obama for President
 

While I am excited about the Presidential election (mainly due to the fact that it will be historical one way or the other) I am heavily debating who I should support. I was all for Obama, but now I am not sure. Who are you supporting and why?

Clinton! Girl Power! Wooooo!:D

I'm supporting whoever the Democratic candidate is.

Until one of them firmly supports marriage equality and DC Statehood, I don't really care.

DITTO!!!

[quote=Senusret I;1488729]I'm supporting whoever the Democratic candidate is.

Well that leads to my next question: Do we just vote Democratic or Republican without hearing what issues the candidates hope to tackle? I often wonder how many people get in the booth and just punch democrat all the way down? I did when I was able to vote at 18, but I have grown a little wiser (thank God). :o True enough they could sell us bull and not do anything once they get in office.

For ME, Senusret I, I only have two issues that are paramount for me right now:

Marriage equality
DC Statehood

I know that I can vote Democrat with a good conscience as no Republican candidates that I know of support either cause.

That's nationally. LOCALLY, I have voted Socialist, Republican, and DC Statehood/Green party in addition to Democrat. Of course even here the politicians backpedal, but they at least all agree on DC Statehood.

I advise everyone to vote with their heart, whether it's Republican, Dems, or whoever. If black folks want to vote Republican because they align with their more conservative values, more power to them.

You're the first person I've ever heard say that Statehood for DC is an issue for you. I'm intrigued by your opinions and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I totally agree with you, though I've never seen anyone give a damn one way or another.
(Puerto Rico is another one though the decision is on the other side. Either join the union or GTFO... pick one)

At this point the jury is still out for me. I am still rankled about Clinton's move to NY to become a Senator, and I am worried about Barack's lack of experience in federal government, i.e., knowing enough about the players to pick a good Cabinet.

And Shid, I agree with your issues.

LMAO

Washingtonians themselves don't do a good enough job at raising a stink about the issue. Here is a song that Sweet Honey in the Rock performs about the issue. And check out www.dcvote.org

LG, you know I never even considered Obama's cabinet choices....sheesh, too much to think about! Some days I am really enthralled by him, and other days I think he's the antichrist. No, like literally lol

/hijack

This cracked me up. I say it all the time, and sometimes I rub my chin.

/end hijack

I'm voting for Michael Blumberg... he says he's not running YET...

[QUOTE=Phrozen1ne;1489088]Truthfully, I'm not extremely into politics, and I usually vote for who my mother votes for. I usually go democrat, for I've heard they cater more to the AA community.

[QUOTE=nonchalant;1489248]Don't believe the hype.

Neither of the above
 

My opinion that Clinton and Obama would have a better chance of securing the White House if they were running mates notwithstanding, I don't find either of them particular appealing or capable of running this country in the dire state of affairs it is currently in. So I will have to say, "None of the above".

My vote goes to Ron Paul. His views and agendas on how this country should function and be ran lines up with my views almost perfectly. Yeah, he's Republican, but his leaning are more Libertarian in nature, as I am also. His campaign strategy has been strong and sound, and he is getting a growing constituency of supporters, particularly via the Internet.

Ron Paul for President, 2008!!

Who in the heck is Ron Paul? And yes I am more Libertarian in views also.

/hijack/ were you here? /end hijack/

[QUOTE=ladygreek;1489275]lol, thanks. If you would like to elaborate with a few examples, please feel free to do so. Anyone can elaborate for that matter.

I would vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket (I don't know if an Obama/Clinton ticket would ever happen!). Singly, however, I will be voting for Barack Obama. I think that his grassroots / all-american background is just what the country needs after 8 years of oil money running the country into the ground and taking the rest of the world with it.

^^^^^ Couldn't have stated it better myself.

I would agree with you. But again my concern is does he know enough to surround himself with the right people to get his vision implemented? You know Jesse and Al are going to be pushing for Cabinet positions and will Barack be strong enough to say Hell no and then weather the flack that will come with it?

Far be it for me to tell any of you who you should vote for, let me give you a bit of advice when pondering your decision(s).

Please understand that the state of this country is in dire straits: escalating Middle East war, declining dollar, inflation/high gas prices, rising foreclosures, tremendous national debt financed by a nation (China) on the verge of cashing it out, homeland "security" about to resort to extreme measures to keep us "safe", talks of a North America Union, etc, etc.

This is not the time to select a candidate based on who gets the most airtime provided by Fox, CNN, or whatever news source you rely on. Do not let them inform you of who you "should" vote for. You must do your homework and research candidates thoroughly as to what matters most to you and which candidate's beliefs and agenda are most in line with yours.

DO NOT vote for a candidate based on who you think is most likely to win. That's not voting, that's tantamount to gambling. Do not throw your ballot on the crap table. Moreover, do not let these candidates insult your intelligence by pandering to you because you belong to a certain minority or special interest group. We need to vote with wisdom in this next election; it could possibly be the most critical one in US history for the future of our nation.

*steps down off soapbox*

Having said that, now for my personal opinion: If the election comes down to Hilbama vs. Rudy McRomney, it's game over; The United States of America is TOAST! The next decade is going to be RADICALLY different in ways we we would've never believed.

From my experience in Illinois, he does not run with their crowd. I think he'll pick the best people he can for the job. He's shown repeatedly he doesn't play that game.

You know...I have been thoroughly researching each candidates and the jury is still out on this one. I guess it all comes down to proven track record and trust (even though candidates have been known to lie).

Jesse and Al!!! Lord help us all if that happens...:eek::eek::eek:

I know he doesn't run with that crowd. But this is a whole different ball game than a state. I am talking about national pressure from certain groups.

The reason candidates try and raise alot of money early on is because they want to "scare" other potential candidates from running. The media profits from this mad dash for cash (where do you think the money goes?!) so they want the electorate to believe that whoever raises the most amount of money wins.

The title of this thread buys into this hype...since they've raised the most amount of money why would anyone presume that either one of them would be the Democratic nominee? (

Clinton is a socialist and Obama doesn't have any goverance experience (if had been the governor of Illinois, he'd be much more prepared, historically, how many Senators have been president?) Bill Richardson would be a more formidable presidential candidate because he's more qualfied.

Oh yes, I understand. I just don't think he's getting himself beholden to anyone now that could come back and bite him later.

Obama and Clinton
 

MR OBAMA AS PRESIDENT AND MISS CLINTON as VP
OH YES
I WOULD BUY THAT FOR A DOLLOR

Clinton all the way!

I just skimmed through some of the post so I don't know if this question came up, but is it true that Obama is a Muslim?:confused:

No.