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gabbygamma 07-19-2007 01:50 PM

Recruitment at UGA
 
I will be attending the University of Georgia this fall and plan on going through recruitment. I'm terrified at having to make selections of a lifetime committment of sisterhood based on 2 or 3 interactions with the active members. Does anyone out there have any information on which sororities have the best reputations? I would love some input.

blackngoldengrl 07-19-2007 01:52 PM

Read the postings at the top of the Sorority Recruitment/Recruitment sections regarding things you shouldn't do as a PNM, or top newbie questions.

epchick 07-19-2007 01:57 PM

Geezus....if you only looking for the sorority with the best reputation b/c your worried about the "lifelong commitment" then maybe you aren't ready to rush---thats just MHO.

How about you focus on showing the sororities who you are, and worry less about what people think about the sororities (i.e. their stereotypes and their reputations) b/c if you only chose the sororities that are "top tier" you might not be as happy if you chose the one that was right for you.

KSUViolet06 07-19-2007 02:07 PM

Welcome to GreekChat. Sorority reputations are questions that we don't generally like to discuss here. The reason is because reputations are based on subjective opinions, rumors, and stereotypes. Reputation is just what other people think of a chapter. You don't want to base your decisions about a lifetime commitment on what other people think :)

It's best that you just go through recruitment and get to know the members on your campus. Keep an open mind and make decisions based on the girls you meet and what you experience in recruitment. That's a better idea than asking a bunch of people on the internet what they think.

MaggieXi 07-19-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1488155)
Welcome to GreekChat. Sorority reputations are questions that we don't generally like to discuss here. The reason is because reputations are based on subjective opinions, rumors, and stereotypes. Reputation is just what other people think of a chapter. You don't want to base your decisions on what other people think :)

It's best that you just go through recruitment and get to know the members on your campus. Keep an open mind and make decisions based on the girls you meet and what you experience in recruitment. That's a better idea than asking a bunch of people on the internet what they think.

I think that this should be the blanket response to all PNMs who ask about stereotypes.

IMO, I think a lot of gcers jump the gun and get all snarky when PNMs ask about stereotypes. Their PNMs, most of the time they are naieve, freshman who are just looking for some information about sorority life. Most of us were like that too once upon a time.

KSUViolet06 07-19-2007 02:36 PM

Also, gabbygamma:

Check out these threads, they have good advice in them:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=30758

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=54403

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=87932

Kevin 07-19-2007 02:40 PM

Gabby -- if you get a bid, you'll soon learn that NPC women will rarely discuss "tiers" in public. It's not that they don't care though and it's not that they don't recognize that there probably are tiers.

Just realize that there aren't many who want to index the sororities at any school by tier on a website which is widely indexed by major search sites right before rush. To do so would be fairly irresponsible on the part of anyone replying to you. Don't feel bad for asking though.

When you go through, you'll probably get the best sense of what's what by simply being there. Many of these reputation sorts of rumors are absolutely false or misleading. There are fine people in every house and I'm sure every house has its share of not-so-fine people as well. Good luck with everything.

macallan25 07-19-2007 03:34 PM

I don't think she said anything about "tiers". She asked if anyone knew of what sororities had good reputations at UGA.

I don't see the problem here. Face it, it's the SEC. There are going to be excellent houses...........and there are going to be not so excellent houses. Saying that "oh well, every house is good in their own way and blah blah blah" isn't doing anyone any good that really wants to know.

Saying, for example, that Pi Phi at UGA is just as good as Theta, but in different ways is ridiculous.

If someone comes down to Texas and asks me what sororities have good reputations.....I'm gonna tell them Pi Phi, Theta, Kappa. Honesty is the best policy in my opinion.

33girl 07-19-2007 03:47 PM

The problem is everyone defines "reputation" in their own way. Guys one way and girls another, for starters.

There are so many women who get cut hard from ALL tiers of sororities at UGA that to say ASA, AST & TPA are the best sororities there can make them even more anxious and upset about what happens.

KSUViolet06 07-19-2007 03:48 PM

It's not a problem that PNMs ask that stuff. We just like for them to be able to form their own opinions of chapters once they go through recruitment, and not form opinions of chapters based on what people on GC say.

adpiucf 07-19-2007 03:50 PM

Gabby, check out the recruitment forum.

LPIDelta 07-19-2007 03:59 PM

Honestly--we don't talk about reputations because its just not very "Panhellenic". A good lesson for PNMs to learn because you never know who is watching or listening.

UGAalum94 07-19-2007 04:25 PM

OP, everything will unfold for you during rush, from reputations of the group to your own personal sense of connection, and as long as you have secured all the recommendations that you can and spoken with older girls from your high school to let them know you are going through, you probably won't get much out of trying to pick a group in advance.

Even if you could make a short list of the groups you really wanted, if they didn't invite you back, it'd be counter-productive. It's a mutual selection process, but the majority of the selecting is done by the GLOs rather than the PNMs. Even a girl having a perfect rush and getting asked back to every group still has to be asked back before she can decide if she wants to go. What would be the point of deciding you loved XYX before you knew if they loved you?

Make the best impression that you can on everyone you meet, keep as many options open as you can, and then rank the groups you like best from the ones you are invited to pref.

To do anything else basically just allows you to get frustrated and sad about stuff that wasn't in your control to start with.

Macallen25, you're right that there are reputation tiers at UGA. But unless she is one of maybe 100 (it may be less than this) girls out of 1200 total who truly do have their pick of ALL the groups, why limit her enjoyment of the bid she actually gets by prejudicing her before it even starts?

And it probably doesn't surprise you to learn that people in lower reputation tier groups still find their groups worthwhile to be in, so there really is a little bit of truth is the "they are all great in different ways" even if they aren't all first tier by reputation.

And honestly, you think there's much danger that a girl is going to take a bid from a "bottom feeder" group (as I think you once put it to me) instead of a top tier group even if no one tells her before rush which is which?

exlurker 07-19-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1488284)
. . . It's a mutual selection process, but the majority of the selecting is done by the GLOs rather than the PNMs. Even a girl having a perfect rush and getting asked back to every group still has to be asked back before she can decide if she wants to go. What would be the point of deciding you loved XYX before you knew if they loved you?

Make the best impression that you can on everyone you meet, keep as many options open as you can, and then rank the groups you like best from the ones you are invited to pref.

To do anything else basically just allows you to get frustrated and sad about stuff that wasn't in your control to start with.

Macallen25, you're right that there are reputation tiers at UGA. But unless she is one of maybe 100 (it may be less than this) girls out of 1200 total who truly do have their pick of ALL the groups, why limit her enjoyment of the bid she actually gets by prejudicing her before it even starts? . . .

Good points, AlphaGamUGAAlum, especially "It's a mutual selection process, but the majority of the selecting is done by the GLOs rather than the PNMs."

adrie435 07-20-2007 09:05 AM

The problem is that in any given group of people, there will be some major differences in how people see reputations. Trying to come up with accurate ones that everyone can agree on is absolutely impossible. Any statement of reputation will always be based on the person's specific feelings toward a GLO, a person in it, or a certain type of person. A PNM's view of reputation will also depend on what the girl is looking for in a sorority...

One PNM could define another's traditionally "pretty and popular" group as the "slutty partier" group and the "nerdy" group as the "smart" group or the more down-to-earth girls. Another PNM at the same school could completely switch everything around based on her personality and what she wants in a sorority...

Add to this the fact that we already know that half the common reputations and stereotyes that exist out there are usually fairly wrong and only perpetuated by misinformation and it's no surprise that sorority women don't want to put their names (and GLO's) on the line and gossip about reputations on a public forum.

ugablonde 07-25-2007 03:44 PM

hmm
 
I don't mean to make anyone on here mad but I'll be a sophomore at UGA this year and in my OPINION the best houses here are AOPi, KD, AXO, DZ, ADPi, Sigma Kappa and Zeta... I LOVE pi phi because a ton of my friends are in it, theta, tridelt, gamma phi, phi mu and kkg are pretty good too. You really can't go too wrong...

ugablonde 07-25-2007 03:45 PM

I'm just keepin it real.

33girl 07-25-2007 03:47 PM

Isn't that all of them??

Drolefille 07-25-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1491357)
Isn't that all of them??

Apparently like 5 of them are just not cool, yo.

AlphaFrog 07-25-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ugablonde (Post 1491354)
I don't mean to make anyone on here mad but I'll be a sophomore at UGA this year and in my OPINION the best houses here are AOPi, KD, AXO, DZ, ADPi, Sigma Kappa and Zeta... I LOVE pi phi because a ton of my friends are in it, theta, tridelt, gamma phi, phi mu and kkg are pretty good too. You really can't go too wrong...

Way to be Panhellenic.:rolleyes:

Drolefille 07-25-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1491364)
Way to be Panhellenic.:rolleyes:

Hey, she was... to some of them.

kddani 07-25-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1491364)
Way to be Panhellenic.:rolleyes:


She's an independent (rushed last year but dropped out, thinking about rushing again). Can an independent be Panehellenic?

33girl 07-25-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1491394)
She's an independent (rushed last year but dropped out, thinking about rushing again). Can an independent be Panehellenic?

no, but she can get cut for saying too much on the intranets!! lolzzzz!!

Unregistered- 07-25-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1491406)
no, but she can get cut for saying too much on the intranets!! lolzzzz!!

Methinks that she won't need the intranets to get cuts all around!

Just keepin' it real.

Tom Earp 07-25-2007 05:36 PM

Swell!

Tom Earp 07-25-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ugablonde (Post 1491355)
I'm just keepin it real.


Well, I think you are going about it the wrong way!;)

While bigger may seem better, it may not be!:rolleyes:

You may be the little Frog or Toad in the Big Pond!

If you are one of Oh, I want to be with them because why, then go for it!:)

srmom 07-25-2007 05:44 PM

Tom, I think I've figured it out- you write in haiku format.

Unregistered- 07-25-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1491424)
Tom, I think I've figured it out- you write in haiku format.

That's not haiku format.

We used to have a Phi Sig here who used to write in haiku.

Tom Earp 07-25-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1491424)
Tom, I think I've figured it out- you write in haiku format.

No Ms. Wright! Grade School, Mount Washington!:)

well, that was the way I was taught instead of the Lingo today!:o

Also, have been around as opposed to some so special acting people who seem self importent!

Oh, is that Impotent? Not really sure!:cool:

srmom 07-25-2007 05:51 PM

OTW - and Tom

I'm just kidding:rolleyes:

Maybe I need to use these pictures everytime I write something:o

That would better portray my emotions:cool:

Better?:D

Unregistered- 07-25-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1491429)

Maybe I need to use these pictures everytime I write something:o

No, then you'd just be annoying as hell.

srmom 07-25-2007 06:01 PM

And that would make me unique on this forum;):cool::rolleyes:

minDyG 07-25-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1491362)
Apparently like 5 of them are just not cool, yo.

Yeah...actually it's 4 now that one of them is closing...and I mean. Could you be any more offensive if you possibly tried?

Tom Earp 07-25-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1491364)
Way to be Panhellenic.:rolleyes:


So, why should she be?

She is looking and asking!:rolleyes:

Maybe she is messing up, and I am sure you will be more than willing to help!:D

UGAalum94 07-25-2007 07:11 PM

Well, she's only offending a few of us. (and I'm not offended as much as amused.)

It's interesting, Ugablonde must not be Jewish, because she wrote off both traditionally Jewish groups on campus, and then she wrote off DG and AGD, both of which have tended to be smaller groups.

But what do you suppose she has against Chi Omega?

(Even being someone who will acknowledge that there are tiers, I find UGAblonde's list strange. Things must have changed a lot, which I think would actually be good. I was under the impression that reputation rankings were almost beyond the control of the groups, but apparently, not so. Maybe it's the HOPE pulling in all the metro Atlanta kids because she's got some of the traditionally strongest most southern chapters thrown in almost as afterthoughts.)

How many of those groups take sophomores, UGAblonde?

ETA: I keep snorting and laughing at the construction that "Theta is pretty good too." Theta at UGA has long been amazing. I'm not slighting anyone, but it's really funny as someone who went there in the 90s to read somebody throw Theta out as "pretty good" and leave Chi Omega off the list.

Drolefille 07-25-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1491456)
Well, she's only offending a few of us.

It's interesting, Ugablonde must not be Hindu, because she wrote off traditionally Unitarian groups on campus, and then she wrote off GC and ABC, both of which have tended to be smaller groups.

But what do you suppose she has against Tappa Kegga Beer?

(Even being someone who will acknowledge that there are tiers, I find UGAblonde's list strange. Things must have changed a lot, which I think would actually be good. I was under the impression that reputation rankings were almost beyond the control of the groups, but apparently, not so. Maybe it's the HOPE pulling in all the metro Atlanta kids because she's got some of the traditionally strongest most southern chapters thrown in almost as afterthoughts.)

How many of those groups take sophomores, UGAblonde?


ETA: I keep snorting and laughing at the construction that "Theta is pretty good too." Theta at UGA has long been amazing. I'm not slighting anyone, but it's really funny as someone who went there in the 90s to read somebody throw Theta out as "pretty good" and leave - off the list.

You know, I didn't list which groups for a reason...

ETA:
minDyG I'm going to assume you knew I was sarcastic and you were referring to UGAblonde... I hope!

UGAalum94 07-25-2007 07:27 PM

Oh, I think it says so much more about her than it does about the groups.

ETA: anyone who wanted to could figure out who was missing, but if you really think I should, I'll delete.

Really, I think we're better off not listing and ranking generally here, but her list is funny, and if her list stands, it seems that commentary on it is fine.

Drolefille 07-25-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1491465)
Oh, I think it says so much more about her than it does about the groups.

ETA: anyone who wanted to could figure out who was missing, but if you really think I should, I'll delete.

Really, I think we're better off not listing and ranking generally here, but her list is funny, and if her list stands, it seems that commentary on it is fine.

Do whatever you like, I'm just trying to be courteous. I can't make her take her list down either way so whatever tickles your pickle.

UGAalum94 07-25-2007 07:39 PM

As an alumna of one of the chapters too bad to mention, I don't think leaving them unlisted does any particular good. (Don't you think anyone reading the thread is going to figure it out?) And her list might actually be beneficial as it kind of mixes stuff up a little, as far as I know.

It's a ranking made by a PNM who went through rush last year and dropped out who plans to go through again. I think people can take it for what it's worth.

dgdramadawg 07-25-2007 08:04 PM

OP: In college, I knew members of most of the chapters on campus, save only a couple of chapters. They were all happy in their groups, some for different reasons than others. In that respect, I truly believe that every group at UGA is good for the girls for whom it is what they choose. In terms of size, the range of membership is from about 100 to about 200 members, so even the "small" groups are pretty big. I know from girls who have rushed more recently that some of the groups are very different from when I went there, so keep in mind that the reputations you hear could be 5 years old (I heard recently that a chapter I knew to be a party chapter is now a good-girl chapter, so that's an example of a change in rep over time).

In my recruitment, I was plagued by girls telling me that certain houses were "popular." They encouraged me to focus on certain houses because of reputation even though I was attracted to houses that they considered to be "beneath them" (a couple of which, by the way, were on ugablonde's lovely list... everyone's idea of rep is different). It can be hard to think about what's best for you when everyone's talking about this rep and that rep, but it's important to choose the right house for YOU, not the right house for the other chicks on your hall.

One thing to think about: often what houses are good is based on where you're from. For instance, girls from my high school typically pledged one of three houses, so we always heard that those were "good" because that was what we heard around high school. I know you'll see this a lot around GC, but reputations at UGA really differ based on who you are talking to and you need to keep an open mind.


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