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AlethiaSi 07-19-2007 10:16 AM

Sororitylive ?
 
I ran across sororitylive as an app on facebook, so I did some investigating. It looks interesting, I did a search and saw two threads in specific GLO forums but didn't want to go and pry. Anyway, just wondering if anyone has/ or does use this and what benefits you see from it.

tld221 07-19-2007 11:58 AM

havent been on FB in a few days, almost a week actually! so what is this sororitylive? does it involve webcams? do i need to buy new pajamas? will people with names like bIgTKEmIkE058 be messaging me to ask for pics?


am i on the right track with these assumptions?

fantASTic 07-19-2007 12:17 PM

Actually, it's not part of facebook. It's LIKE facebook, but only Greeks can join [when you register, you pick your org and then your chapter]. It's okay, I don't use it so much but when school starts it might be fun. I think they made it so that people can have facebook but not have to disaffiliate during recruitment.

AlethiaSi 07-19-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1488044)
havent been on FB in a few days, almost a week actually! so what is this sororitylive? does it involve webcams? do i need to buy new pajamas? will people with names like bIgTKEmIkE058 be messaging me to ask for pics?


am i on the right track with these assumptions?

ahahahaha that's great, but I HOPE it's not like that:p

i just ran across it because it was in an application, and started looking into it, from what I can see, it is similar to facebook in terms of networking, etc, but apparently you can also set up budgets/ chapter finance stuff, calendar's for events, and a bunch of other stuff. I emailed the support email about being a local, and they approved me to register, they are just "verifying" my membership now, which i'm not sure how that works, because I don't know if any of my active members are on there. In any event, I'm still curious about what other's experiences were.

tld221 07-19-2007 12:25 PM

hmm, is there a link to get to it without going on FB?

and how would they stop perps/trolls? are there GLO-specific questions that only members of that GLO would be able to answer? how are they weeding out the TROLLS!?!!!!

(sorry to grill you, i guess i should jus czech it out for myself huh?)

AlphaFrog 07-19-2007 12:28 PM

I think it's just sororitylive.com

epchick 07-19-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1488044)
havent been on FB in a few days, almost a week actually! so what is this sororitylive? does it involve webcams? do i need to buy new pajamas? will people with names like bIgTKEmIkE058 be messaging me to ask for pics?


am i on the right track with these assumptions?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

AlphaFrog 07-19-2007 01:50 PM

I joined to see what it was about. It named me a chapter Officer, because I'm the first there from my chapter, but says that my chapter is locked because an Officer has to approve me. So I have to approve myself, but I can't get in to approve myself because it's locked until I approve myself.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

SWTXBelle 07-19-2007 01:51 PM

AlphaFrog, that sounds like my life . . .

AlethiaSi 07-19-2007 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1488129)
I joined to see what it was about. It named me a chapter Officer, because I'm the first there from my chapter, but says that my chapter is locked because an Officer has to approve me. So I have to approve myself, but I can't get in to approve myself because it's locked until I approve myself.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

The admin of the site will approve you soon. That's what happened to me, and now i'm in charge of approving everyone until i change it lol

lauralaylin 07-19-2007 03:23 PM

I'm having the same problem, I have to approve myself.

tld221 07-20-2007 11:41 AM

WHAT THE HELL! :mad:
 
here's a response i got from Justin, the guy who runs the site:

Quote:

Hi tld221,

We would like to verify your SororityLive account and give you access to the system. However, we were unable to confirm you at NYU. What is the name of your chapter and can you provide any information to prove you are a Sigma Gamma Rho? (eg. a picture of you with letters on, etc.)

Sorry for the inconvenience, but we are trying to keep the site free of phony accounts.

Thanks,


Justin Stein · VP Operations · FraternityLive/SororityLive
justin.stein@tsotinc.com · 305-14 Prince Arthur Ave., Toronto, ON, M5R 1A9
http://www.FraternityLive.com · http://www.SororityLive.com
416.640.6144 x230 · Fax: 416.640.6149 · Toll Free: 1.888.732.1292

To which i responded:

Quote:

My chapter (Alpha Pi) covers the NYC metropolitan area, not a particular college campus. Members of the past have included many of the CUNY colleges (Baruch, Hunter, Lehman, Brooklyn College, Medgar Evers, etc.) and some private schools such as Pace U, Berkeley College, Columbia U, and NYU, where i attended. So I doubt you will get any "confirmation" that i am a part of Alpha Pi from a school site or anything.

As for info to prove i'm an SGRho, well, that's limited to members of my organization. I'm sure you understand. and I dont know if a pic of me wearing letters actually verifies me being a member - anyone can buy letters and wear them. Do you have other members of my organization registered on your site? What has been their validation?

Take that as you will. I can imagine that your site has a NPC/NIC/IFC focus, but I don't think you will get any "proof" from an MCGLO or NPHC organization. There's gotta be a better way. Perhaps the member in charge of each organization can have a validation question for other members who sign up?

I understand your need to keep the site free of perps and trolls, but i hardly fall in either category. Your call.

Thank you,
tld221
Esteemed member of Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc since 2005

TrevorG 07-20-2007 01:20 PM

At first glance Fraternity/SororityLive seems somewhat redundant. The social features are already implemented well enough in Facebook that it isn't worth using for that aspect. The chapter management stuff looks interesting, but I'm not sure if they are worth the trouble of getting everyone to start using them.

12dn94dst 07-20-2007 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1488766)
here's a response i got from Justin, the guy who runs the site:

Just for kicks, I registered. Said I was an alumna of the chapter, but it didn't hold my initiation or graduation years. We'll see.

My chapter's being verified to see if it exists. LOL

ETA: I was just approved (4:30ish). tld, the issue may be that your chapter not tied to a particular school. *shrug*

twotimestalia 07-20-2007 06:07 PM

This is what I got back from trying to get Beta Sigma Phi listed. :( Oh well, guess I'll have to just stay on Greekchat then! :D

"Thank you for your e-mail. Currently, our site is set up for collegiate fraternities and sororities only. We would love to have your organization on our site, but we have not yet worked out the logistics for non campus-based sororities and fraternities. We will definitely be keeping Beta Sigma Phi in mind for when we expand to non-academic organizations.

I apologize for the inconvenience, but rest assured that we are certainly interested in accomodating your 1200+ chapters and sometime in the future we will be incorporating your sorority into SororityLive.
Please feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions.

Sincerely,
Justin Stein"

tld221 07-20-2007 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1488932)
Just for kicks, I registered. Said I was an alumna of the chapter, but it didn't hold my initiation or graduation years. We'll see.

My chapter's being verified to see if it exists. LOL

ETA: I was just approved (4:30ish). tld, the issue may be that your chapter not tied to a particular school. *shrug*

hmm - good point. it asked me for a school and chapter. i guess i'll put my graduate chapter.

1908Revelations 07-22-2007 05:57 PM

I was not asked to verify anything. Eventhough they can not verify with only a picture as they asked tld for, but still.

I suggest everyone use this with caution, I am no perp, but I signed up and was approved with out a second guess.

Thetagirl218 07-22-2007 10:07 PM

I didn't have any trouble joining it, but honestly after surfing the site a view times it seemed almost the same as facebook, and slightly boring.

Unregistered- 07-22-2007 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1489682)
I didn't have any trouble joining it, but honestly after surfing the site a view times it seemed almost the same as facebook, and slightly boring.

I agree.

I think someone came on here not too long ago spamming the site with SororityLive links. I took a look at it and realized that it was just one of those FaceBook-like/MySpace-like sites that people will register for and then forget about.

Those FaceBook/MySpace-like "but for Greeks!" sites are a dime a dozen and no one really pays attention to the copycats.

AlethiaSi 07-22-2007 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1489682)
I didn't have any trouble joining it, but honestly after surfing the site a view times it seemed almost the same as facebook, and slightly boring.

Yeah, I kind of agree, I'm still checking things out, but without other people from my sorority on there... it is very boring. The chapter operations seem interesting, but again, without participation from my girls, it's pretty useless

well, it was worth a shot i guess

1908Revelations 07-22-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlethiaSi (Post 1489694)
Yeah, I kind of agree, I'm still checking things out, but without other people from my sorority on there... it is very boring. The chapter operations seem interesting, but again, without participation from my girls, it's pretty useless

well, it was worth a shot i guess

There are a few people from my sorority, but I agree....it is boring.

tld221 07-23-2007 12:30 PM

I must be really irking this boy's nerves!
 
Ok here's the response I got:

Quote:

Hi tld221,

Thanks for responding. I requested more information because the NYU Greek Life site did not list Sigma Gamma Rho as a campus sorority. Since your chapter covers the New York Metropolitan area, you will have to sign up again and select "New York Metropolitan" as the campus. However, since the Alpha Pi website has not been updated since 2001, your name is not on the site's member list.

FraternityLive and SororityLive are currently working with headquarters to develop a plan for accurate member verification. Until we have member lists from HQs, we must verify members using alternate means, and the best way for you to get verified right now is to send us a picture of yourself with letters on. This is generally good proof since nobody would go to the trouble of buying someone else's letters simply to gain access to a website.

Please re-register under the 'New York Metropolitan' campus, and as soon as we receive a picture from you (or post one on your profile when your sign up) we can verify your membership.

Thanks, Justin
So the bolded really prompted me to respond with this:
Quote:

Justin,

I can register under my graduate chapter if it is a problem. i was using my undergraduate chapter because the site prompted me to give a school. I think you may have the wrong URL - the Alpha Pi website has definitely been updated since then - late 2006. but that will not be of much help to you as we haven't listed chapter members in a while and some chapters just don't do that.

A suggestion to verify members - maybe you have site members verify their own sisters/brothers? Using some GLO-specifc passcode or quiz, something relevant to those members but elusive enough that you and the SL/FL people wouldn't know the meaning behind it? I dunno, i'm just one person, but i really disagree with using a picture of me in letters as verification, especially when (as you've mentioned) your idea of verification equals looking up various greek websites... which anyone can do in both scenarios.


Good luck with getting membership lists from various HQs - you do realize that a. those lists are confidential and the average HQ isnt gonna give it to you? and b. those lists can run into millions of members, which means you are really cutting your work out for yourselves.

Lastly, i understand that you feel that an Internet perp wouldn't buy letters, take a picture and all that just to join a website, but you would be surprised at other similar lengths greek perps would take to prove that they are members of GLOs they are not.

All the best,
tld221
i'm gonna go with my GCers and chalk SororityLive up to being one of those random Greek sites (wasn't there one called Greek Yearbook?) that tries to get everyone Greek linked up but for no real reason. Especially when the creators/ppl who run the site question my legitimacy and have no good way to verify me.

1908Revelations 07-23-2007 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1489946)
i'm gonna go with my GCers and chalk SororityLive up to being one of those random Greek sites (wasn't there one called Greek Yearbook?) that tries to get everyone Greek linked up but for no real reason. Especially when the creators/ppl who run the site question my legitimacy and have no good way to verify me.

Also, someone may not buy letters and send a picture, they may copy and pas te a pic from the net to use for the crappy verification process, they won't be able to prove it is not you. I suggest using this with lots of caution.

cuteASAbug 07-23-2007 12:35 PM

I decided to check it out and registered when this thread was started. It said that I had to verify something in my email before I could use it. Still waiting for that verification email...

AlphaFrog 07-23-2007 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug (Post 1489950)
I decided to check it out and registered when this thread was started. It said that I had to verify something in my email before I could use it. Still waiting for that verification email...

I had to ask them to re-send the email...there's a link to do that on their page.

cuteASAbug 07-23-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1489952)
I had to ask them to re-send the email...there's a link to do that on their page.

I did that and registered and am just very not impressed. I already asked them about getting rid of my account.

1908Revelations 07-23-2007 12:53 PM

YOu guys this is what I wrote to my Sorority on the site:

Quote:

Hi Sorors!
I hope everyone is well and having a great summer! I wanted to warn everyone to be cautious as to what is said on this site, because I was not asked to verify my membership. If I didn't have to verify then there is not telling who can sign up and say they are a soror. I just want to protect what is OURS, because it is a SERIOUS matter!

However, I just wanted to say hello and I love you all!

Sisterly,
Soror 1908Revelations
Fall 2006

Today I got this from site admin:
Quote:

Hi 1908Revelations,

We were notified of your post by concerned site members. I think you are misunderstanding our verification process.

FraternityLive and SororityLive are currently working with headquarters' to develop a plan for accurate member verification. Until we have member lists from HQs, we must verify members using alternate means, which involves a team of staff scouring campus Greek Life pages, national headquarters sites, chapter websites, facebook, myspace, etc. We also request further proof that you are a member before we verify when we are unsure.
When a member joins an existing chapter, it is up to that chapter's officers to verify the members, which is a guaranteed filter for non-members.

We understand that our verification process is not perfect but it is quite secure and will only be getting better. Therefore we would appreciate if you would remove your comment from the Alpha Kappa Alpha board as soon as you get a chance.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Cheers,

Justin Stein
System Admin
So....I replied
Quote:

Hi Justin,

It is not as if I am saying that perps will be allowed access to anything sacred to Alpha Kappa Alpha, and should they happen upon something that will not make them a member of my sorority. I would like to know how my membership was verified? I am not on facebook, myspace, nor does my chapter have a website. I am almost certain that my corporate HQ did not converse with you about my membership.

Please do not think that I am trying to bash your site, but I vowed to protect Alpha Kappa Alpha and I am sure you understand about proctecting your organization.

Thank you,
1908Revelations
Verifying by pictures means nothing to me. I can get a picture from anywhere!

AlphaFrog 07-23-2007 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug (Post 1489956)
I did that and registered and am just very not impressed. I already asked them about getting rid of my account.

Between GC, Facebook, Myspace, SisterCircle, and AlphaNet, I just don't think there's a need for anything like that. I mean, sure if they had a secure verification process like SisterCircle, it might have merit. But, right now, it's just another thing to split attention on to.

33girl 07-23-2007 01:03 PM

Does this guy seriously think he'll be able to get member lists from the HQs? If so, he is completely deluded. It's hard enough to get that stuff if you're a MEMBER, sometimes.

cuteASAbug 07-23-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1489961)
Between GC, Facebook, Myspace, SisterCircle, and AlphaNet, I just don't think there's a need for anything like that. I mean, sure if they had a secure verification process like SisterCircle, it might have merit. But, right now, it's just another thing to split attention on to.

I still don't have access to AlphaNet, but facebook and Sister Circle are all I really need.

alrphimu 07-25-2007 01:13 AM

this justin guy sounds pretty awesome. i wonder if he belongs to a GLO?

1908Revelations 07-25-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alrphimu (Post 1491015)
this justin guy sounds pretty awesome. i wonder if he belongs to a GLO?

Sarcasm....right?:)

tld221 07-25-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alrphimu (Post 1491015)
this justin guy sounds pretty awesome. i wonder if he belongs to a GLO?

im guessing a big fat NO. he doesnt sound awesome at all. he sounds like a moron.

1908Revelations 07-25-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1491149)
im guessing a big fat NO. he doesnt sound awesome at all. he sounds like a moron.

Cheers:D

RG-SAM 07-25-2007 02:07 PM

Fraternity Live/Sorority Live
 
Fraternity Live/Sorority Live was one of the vendors a couple of weeks ago at the FEA Conference/Trade Show in Orlando. I had the opportunity to sit down with the four of them working for the company including Aaron.

Of the four people represented at the trade show, a couple of them are members of Greek Organizations.

My advice is to sign up and/or speak with Aaron to see if this might be something your group is interested in.

Another Vendor that was there and doing presentations and has chapters already as clients and recently was at the ZTA Conference was GIN System.

I'll be happy to answer any other questions anyone may have.

1908Revelations 07-25-2007 02:24 PM

[quote=RG-SAM;1491274I'll be happy to answer any other questions anyone may have.[/quote]
TLD221 and I want to know how are people verified. Especially if they are the first one from thier chapter. You may or may not know the answer, but facebook pictures do not mean squat. I asked how I was verified and Justin told me that they were certain that I am a member (which I am), but how is he certain? Oh well as stated before I'm sure we will forget about that site shortly.

tld221 07-25-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1491285)
TLD221 and I want to know how are people verified. Especially if they are the first one from thier chapter. You may or may not know the answer, but facebook pictures do not mean squat. I asked how I was verified and Justin told me that they were certain that I am a member (which I am), but how is he certain? Oh well as stated before I'm sure we will forget about that site shortly.

and conversely, I wasn't verified automatically because my chapter isn't a traditional collegiate chapter (see above). Actually, I wasn't verified at all, as I was told to re-register and "post a pic in letters" as verification, and to just list myself as an Alum.

i agree with my sistergreek - pictures dont mean squat. the amount of copy and pasting I do under honest intentions on a daily basis is indicative of what ONE person, as a potential poser, could do to gain access.

I like to give most sites a try but the people behind this one just seem a little uninformed. Come back at me with v. 2.0.

12dn94dst 07-25-2007 02:51 PM

Quote:

TLD221 and I want to know how are people verified. Especially if they are the first one from thier chapter.
You know good and well they don't have the means to verify anyone. The only thing they could be verifying is the existence of a chapter at a school. I mean, yeah they can call HQ, but without a membership number, or at the very least an initiation date (not just the year) they're not going to get far.

The part I'm not comfortable with is the potential availability of chapter financial information. Chapter business is for current chapter members, especially financial information. Neos have a hard enough time with old heads telling them how to run the chapter, the financial proof of a good or bad job is extra.

tld221 07-25-2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1491303)
You know good and well they don't have the means to verify anyone. The only thing they could be verifying is the existence of a chapter at a school. I mean, yeah they can call HQ, but without a membership number, or at the very least an initiation date (not just the year) they're not going to get far.
The part I'm not comfortable with is the potential availability of chapter financial information. Chapter business is for current chapter members, especially financial information. Neos have a hard enough time with old heads telling them how to run the chapter, the financial proof of a good or bad job is extra.

yeah that was my point in my original email to them. i mean, cant no one verify me and my SGRho are my prophytes and my HQ / Grand Chapter. Everyone/thing else is secondary and, at this point, extraneous.

I'm just calling them out on a real concern I had. I acknowledged that their set-up seems to lean more to the NPC audience, so really I could fall back. But hey, I'll try anything once, and if it's a bust (and it seems like it is) well, i'll KIM.

Xidelt 07-25-2007 04:24 PM

I LOVED their FAQ page!! It really made me trust that whomever is running this site is professional and all of my chapter's financial/personal information will be secure because "we spend $50,000 a week on security" and "your privacy is very important to us". Wow. That's reassuring.

And the customer comment page was very original. The comments from customers looked VERY AUTHENTIC. Not like the site's founder or "Justin" made them up at all.

And whoever started the site was a Pike. (because someone asked if he/she was in a GLO)

Did anyone read the FAQ that said basically "Your HQ doesn't want to know what you're doing with this website." under the question "Does my HQ support this website?"

Sign me up!:rolleyes:


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