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jelly 07-17-2007 06:46 PM

Is there a lot of rape in Geek Life?
 
i just finished reading the book Fraternity Gang Rape: Sex, Brotherhood, and Privilege on Campus and was wondering if there was any truth to it?

it says if you get raped it isn't good for you to tell because then your sorority will be unpopular, unaccepted, or blacklisted amongst Greek society...

i don't necessarily believe it...just wanted to get the truth from girls that are actually in sororities...



PLEASE give me a staight answer....like "YES there is a rape problem and it happens a lot" or "no not really thats just a stereotype"

that'd help a lot

Tom Earp 07-17-2007 06:49 PM

You better quit reading this tripe!

They print this to sell books and It isn't a lot of truth to it!:rolleyes:

Kevin 07-17-2007 06:49 PM

Um.. if it were true, do you think we'd admit it? You have to join to find these things out.

This thread will probably be locked in fairly short order because we prefer to keep these sorts of things quiet. Outsiders just wouldn't understand.

Tom Earp 07-17-2007 06:52 PM

Swell, just swell?;)

PrettyBoy 07-17-2007 07:03 PM

LMAO at this whole thread.:D

Senusret I 07-17-2007 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelly (Post 1486889)
i just finished reading the book Fraternity Gang Rape: Sex, Brotherhood, and Privilege on Campus and was wondering if there was any truth to it?

it says if you get raped it isn't good for you to tell because then your sorority will be unpopular, unaccepted, or blacklisted amongst Greek society...

i don't necessarily believe it...just wanted to get the truth from girls that are actually in sororities...


KEVIN...SO ITS TRUE?!? crazy...


At various campuses I am acquainted with, fraternity men (as well as unaffiliated men) have been taking more proactive roles in creating a safe environment for women. Thanks to the existence of more progressive men and outside the box thinking from various Women's Center Directors, I think things may be getting better.... at least about the stereotype.

SigKapCoug 07-17-2007 07:27 PM

DITY? :D

UGAalum94 07-17-2007 07:34 PM

No, I don't think it is common for fraternity men to commit rape. And if you are assaulted the popularity of your GLO should be the last thing you worry about after it happens. Report it. Seek treatment. Look out for yourself.

Even though frat guys aren't all evil rapists, you would be wise not to put yourself in situations where you are likely to be incapacitated or where your ability to clearly communicate and act on your wishes is compromised when you are around any group of people who you don't know well.

It's not that every guy is a rapist, but even if one is at your campus, you want to don't want to find yourself drunk and alone with him.

mulattogyrl 07-17-2007 07:43 PM

LMAAAAAAAAO @ this

ARSigmaNu 07-17-2007 08:03 PM

Are you joking? I really can't believe that someone would ask this.

No is the answer. No different in greek or out.

Rudey 07-17-2007 09:16 PM

Yes and no. Technically it's not rape if you roofie her and she can't remember it.

-Rudey

jessicaelaine 07-17-2007 09:46 PM

What I think is most ridiculus is that this person is questioning one or perhaps a few people telling him or her what is the norm for a group of people that is spread across the entire country and even the world. But this person is just asking someone else to generalize the same thing. The better question would be has anyone had a personal experience with rape amongst greek life and what was the reaction. Whats the difference between the writers of this book saying what they believe is true and someone on here saying what they believe is true. Everyone, greek or not can, only speak for themselves.

Ocalagirl 07-17-2007 09:47 PM

If you have to ask this, then why are you rushing?

jon1856 07-17-2007 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelly (Post 1486889)
i just finished reading the book Fraternity Gang Rape: Sex, Brotherhood, and Privilege on Campus and was wondering if there was any truth to it?

it says if you get raped it isn't good for you to tell because then your sorority will be unpopular, unaccepted, or blacklisted amongst Greek society...

i don't necessarily believe it...just wanted to get the truth from girls that are actually in sororities...



PLEASE give me a straight answer....like "YES there is a rape problem and it happens a lot" or "no not really thats just a stereotype"

that'd help a lot

For campus wide stats, check here:
http://www.securityoncampus.org/
and if this link works, "UA" did report a few:
http://www.ope.ed.gov/security/InstI...asp?CRITERIA=C


And if you do a search under "campus rape" in any search engine I am sure you will find all
sorts of answers.
One I just found was this:
http://www.stopcampusrape.com/

And in the news of past 48 hours:
University president fired after alleged rape cover-up

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/16/uni...ref=newssearch

And finally, one of the things that still gives me a bad, sour taste in my mouth :(:mad::
I know of one date rape that did happen in my chapter.
But as shown in above, rape does happen on campus in any kind of living group as well as it happens in general society.:mad::(
I am not aware of any kind of study nor record that would show any difference between living areas and the crime taking place.

Dionysus 07-17-2007 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocalagirl (Post 1486999)
If you have to ask this, then why are you rushing?

Your signature is gay.

epchick 07-17-2007 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelly (Post 1486889)
PLEASE give me a staight answer....like "YES there is a rape problem and it happens a lot" or "no not really thats just a stereotype"

ok i'll bite.

There is no straight answer. I am in a sorority and no I wasn't raped, and it didn't happen on my campus. But my campus doesn't speak for every other one. You need to do some RESEARCH and find out for yourself. Coming to a website might not get you the answer you want.

UGAalum94 07-17-2007 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessicaelaine (Post 1486998)
What I think is most ridiculus is that this person is questioning one or perhaps a few people telling him or her what is the norm for a group of people that is spread across the entire country and even the world. But this person is just asking someone else to generalize the same thing. The better question would be has anyone had a personal experience with rape amongst greek life and what was the reaction. Whats the difference between the writers of this book saying what they believe is true and someone on here saying what they believe is true. Everyone, greek or not can, only speak for themselves.

In terms of the personal thoughts, sure, but Jon1856 provides some links that go beyond just personal response.

Animate 07-17-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1486904)
LMAO at this whole thread.:D

My sentiments exactly!

Dionysus 07-17-2007 10:24 PM

On a serious note, I took a course called "the college student" last semester. Our textbook showed all kinds of research on different groups of college students. According to the research, fraternity men are more likely to support traditional gender roles than non-greek men. However, it did not say anything about rape. There isn't any research about this out there, that I know of.

Ilaria Ame 07-17-2007 10:28 PM

i don't speak from personal experience, but even before i was greek i definitely noticed a trend on my campus that one particular fraternity (who will remain unamed) had a bad history of taking advantage of girls at bars. as in, people would tell me, "oh, watch out for those guys, if they offer you a ride home, don't take it" and the such. i never heard anything about direct rape, but i'm sure there were a lot of half-way consentual acts that were definitely a source of shame for girls nieve enough to let it happen. **disclaimer: i don't want it to sound like i blame the girls for "letting" it happen. but there's a big difference in being forced to do something and allowing yoursef to be taken advantage of when you're in right enough mind to know better but "don't care" because you're "tipsy". it's the line between rape and a horrible descision as far as i'm concerned. that's defintely JUST my opinion though.** anyway, i've DEFINITELY never heard anything about covering it up for the sake of your sorority's reputation. that's just disgusting and if i saw it happen i don't think i'd be active on my campus anymore.

Drolefille 07-17-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1487003)
Your signature is gay.

Gay like stupid or gay like homosexual because I've been trying to set mine up with another signature for a while, and I'm pretty sure he's playing for the other team if you get what I'm saying. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just want him to be happy.

/bored

jelly 07-17-2007 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1487033)
On a serious note, I took a course called "the college student" last semester. Our textbook showed all kinds of research on different groups of college students. According to the research, fraternity men are more likely to support traditional gender roles than non-greek men. However, it did not say anything about rape. There isn't any research about this out there, that I know of.



what does traditional gender roles mean?

Ilaria Ame 07-17-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1487058)
Gay like stupid or gay like homosexual because I've been trying to set mine up with another signature for a while, and I'm pretty sure he's playing for the other team if you get what I'm saying. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just want him to be happy.

/bored

hahaha, cute. :D

Ilaria Ame 07-17-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jelly (Post 1487062)
what does traditional gender roles mean?

i'm pretty sure he's referring to the male as dominant; the bread-winner and "boss" of the house. when you think traditional gender roles, think of the mom and dad from leave it to beaver. that should give you a decent indication.

Dionysus 07-17-2007 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1487058)
Gay like stupid or gay like homosexual because I've been trying to set mine up with another signature for a while, and I'm pretty sure he's playing for the other team if you get what I'm saying. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just want him to be happy.

/bored

Her sig is a flaming homo, and single! Tell him to go for it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelly (Post 1487062)
what does traditional gender roles mean?

cheerfulgreek, is this you?

Axid angel 07-17-2007 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARSigmaNu (Post 1486942)
Are you joking? I really can't believe that someone would ask this.

No is the answer. No different in greek or out.

i was thinking the same thing. if you think by not joining a glo you will be protecting yourself 100% from rape you have a lot to learn!

Kevin 07-18-2007 12:27 AM

Jelly --

You should think your question through. How would we even begin to be able to answer it? You're asking for generalized conclusions based on what? There's always a chance bad things will happen to you. The best thing you can do is be safe.

Most sororities will probably go over safe party practices with members on a fairly regular basis. If you rush, just pay attention there. You'll never be 100% safe unless you just stay at home and play World of Warcraft all day in lieu of rushing.

But then there is always the chance of one of those home invasion guys... So really, you're never safe.

There.. feel better?

AlexMack 07-18-2007 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1487109)
Jelly --

You should think your question through. How would we even begin to be able to answer it? You're asking for generalized conclusions based on what? There's always a chance bad things will happen to you. The best thing you can do is be safe.

Most sororities will probably go over safe party practices with members on a fairly regular basis. If you rush, just pay attention there. You'll never be 100% safe unless you just stay at home and play World of Warcraft all day in lieu of rushing.

But then there is always the chance of one of those home invasion guys... So really, you're never safe.

There.. feel better?

Hey man do not knock world of warcraft. People get raped through that game too! There are real people behind those characters and when they leave their basements they brush off the cheeto crumbs, get on planes and go rape other players IRL.

Kevin 07-18-2007 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by porkfriedrice (Post 1487110)
Hey man do not knock world of warcraft. People get raped through that game too! There are real people behind those characters and when they leave their basements they brush off the cheeto crumbs, get on planes and go rape other players IRL.

Yeah.. and at any rate, I was going to say something funny, but then I remembered how unfunny rape is.

But rape and WoW? That's kind of funnny.

AlexMack 07-18-2007 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1487114)
Yeah.. and at any rate, I was going to say something funny, but then I remembered how unfunny rape is.

But rape and WoW? That's kind of funnny.

The people who play that game are scary and I say this as a player. Of course I log in about once a week so I barely even count. But holy shit, people will take sick days to play WoW. People meet in-game and get married IRL. It is really scary.

Kevin 07-18-2007 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by porkfriedrice (Post 1487115)
The people who play that game are scary and I say this as a player. Of course I log in about once a week so I barely even count. But holy shit, people will take sick days to play WoW. People meet in-game and get married IRL. It is really scary.

Yeah.. I agree. I played one of those sorts of games back in the late 90's (I'm almost embarrassed to admit it). I know precisely what you're talking about though. For the most part, we're not generally talking about the most productive members of society in these games. It's probably better for all of us that they are kept in their homes where they won't be seen out in public, or worse yet, reproduce.

AKA_Monet 07-18-2007 01:02 AM

on the serious note
 
Jelly,

You need to learn how to go to university first than to have concerns about whether you get raped or not.

Generally, rape is about power and women who fall under that power to take something from them.

Jon offers some excellent information... So, sweetheart, you really need to be concerned how you interact with your school and your potentially bidding of the sorority of your choice.

Just my opinion. I may be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.


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