The Amero: New currency for the North American Union (US, Canada, & Mexico)
 

What has Hillary or Barack said about this new union of the North American nations? Very little, if anything.

Check it out:

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publicatio...es/1999/amero/

Some Youtube clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3...related&search=

There's a lot more clips linked from the above links, but you get my drift. Why is the media being so quiet on what is soon to be a major change to our country and society as you all know it. If the NAU goes as planned, by 2010 we're gonna party like it's 1984!!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/Bbc19842.jpg

COMING SOON TO A COMMUNITY NEAR YOU!!!!!!

ETA: Oh, and there will be no more US Constitution, no Bill of Rights, no 13th, 14th, or 15th Amendments, all of that gone. Which means if they want to legislate to put us Blacks back into slavery, they have the right to do just that---BECAUSE WE GAVE IT TO THEM!!!!!


P.S. Watch how there will be 1-2 replies in this entire thread, if that, which is just how George W and his cronies want us to be on this: SILENT!!

Nice ploy for attention.

Please note, I'm not addressing the thread itself. Just this particular line of ridiculousness.

Save that for someone else somewhere else. Your civil rights are about to vanish and this is all you care about? Get your priorities straight, willya'?

I'm curious, in your opinion, what affect will a unified currency have on the US, Canada and Mexico? And what affect will such have on our civil rights?

The answer is:
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(as seen on the back our our $1 bills)

Novus Ordo Seclorum, aka Novus Ordo Mundi, or NEW WORLD ORDER. Do a study on it and your questions will be answered. This is also what the Book of Revelations has been alluding to for the past 2000 years.

Please begin your search here. :rolleyes:

A study will not provide me with YOUR opinion, which is what I asked for.

Hmmm unfortunately, there is no such book in the Bible. At least not mine. NIV? Now we have this one called "Revelation" thought to be written by the same evangelist commonly referred to as "John" but I'm fairly certain there's no mention of North America, the All Seeing Eye or the "New World Order"

In fact it's commonly thought by many theologians to metaphorically be referring to the tribulations of Christians under Nero. It's a whole style of writing very popular in the time, particularly when getting caught writing bad about the Emporer meant that you were stuck up on a pole and burned as a streetlight in your city.

ETA: Oh, and from my perspective (and the Catholic one) really all we're waiting for is Jesus to come back, and that's not exactly a bad thing. Seriously. Why would anyone be upset about the "end times" if the "end times" are a) the beginning of a millenium of peace and an opportunity for all believers to go to heaven?

My apologies, I was in a hurry responding.

The unifying of the currencies is a major aspect of the unification of the three nations. This is to bring back strength to the rapidly weakening dollar in an attempt to replicate what the European Union did by introducing the Euro to the world. This unification of currencies and nations is a major step in the creation of a unified world government, to which some say is part of the ultimate "Mark of the Beast", signifying the coming of Christ and the ultimate showdown between good and evil, whereby Satan will be destroyed and all of God's people will be united in Heaven for all eternity. But I digress--though in this case it is necessary because it will generate such a massive domino effect.

We will lose our civil rights simply by virtue of the fact that the United States of America will be no more, having been unified with Canada and Mexico. Thus the Constitution will cease to have any legislative power because it will be nullified with the new unification. That means that "anything goes" under the new constitutional law, including putting Blacks back into slavery if the government wanted to (not that I'm saying that they would, but still....).

You follow where I am going with this?

I for one am certainly not upset about the end times, but I am concerned that my fellow peers (read: Americans) appear to be totally oblivious to it, as there has been no real discussions en masse to prepare for it.

Yeah, I see where you're going. So, then, it's your opinion that people (generally speaking) won't fight to keep the rights they had under their respective governing documents and that the new government will start completely from the beginning? That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think? Surely, Oprah will not have that!

Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, but what I did read was interesting and from what I can tell, a unified currency is aimed at taking away at least some of the power of the United States dollar, thus knocking "us" down a few pegs. With that decrease in power, of course there will be an economic adjustment probably resulting in lower prices, however, I'm not an economist so don't take my word for it.

As far as the end of days, I'm really not concerned about that. His will is His will.

Wonderfully said Drolefille. Could not have said it better myself.

While I am in full agreement with you on His will being His will, (and I am re-using Drolefille's quote because it implies that you and her are saying the same thing, and that is, you don't care about what happens during the end times), I am not so naive to believe that the majority of North Americans have so cavalier an attitude about the imminent radical changes to our society, that they choose to be silent and/or indifferent about it. I daresay by the time they do make some noise about it (and trust, they will), it will be WAY too late.

But again you are correct on what is God's will being His will.

No.

But y'know, I don't think I really care, actually ... :rolleyes:

And you prepare for the return of Jesus and a millenium of peace, how? Praying? Sure. Stocking up canned food and a bunker? Not so much.

Not that I really agree with anything you're saying about this being the end times, people keep seeming to think that, ever since Jesus did his thing. (Heck some believe Jesus was an apocolyptic preacher)
If it is, then there's nothing you nor I can do about it. And if it isn't, you're getting all worked up for nothing.

ETReply to your comment: That assumes we think this great loss of civil rights is occuring. If I think my civil rights are being threatened I'll act. I think you're wrong and spewing conspiracy theory BS that's right up there with saying a plane didn't hit the Pentagon or that firefighters saying "pull it" means "blow the building up with our cleverly concealed incindiery devices" instead of "get the hell out of there before it collapses."

Also, aliens have nothing better to do than to chop cows up into little bits and steal the most ignorant members of society to shove things up their rectums.

Most lemmings usually don't.

OMG TEH CVS EXTRA CARE CARD IS A TOOL OF ZOG

ok, so if your feeling is in general people will not sleep on this, what was your point in bringing this to our attention? Are you asking us to contact our Congresspeople ans speak out against such? Are you asking us to write letters to the President and presidential candidates? Are you wanting a sounding board for a major joint social action plan for all greek organizations? Do you want us to head this off at the pass? If so, how?

What really was your point for all the dramatics?

And no, it's not that I don't care what happens at the end of days, I know what will happen because of what I believe. And in the end (intended), that's all I need.

I'm not sure where you're going with this, but there certainly isn't a mandate to stay ignorant and silent about it, which is what I think you're alluding to.

We can prepare through prayer and ministry to others.

If people get saved as a result of this, even if it doesn't come to pass, it certainly was worth getting all worked up for nothing.

The European Union/Euro, 9/11 and the Patriot Act certainly isn't "conspiracy theory BS". It's here, it's very real, and it's happening NOW.


P.S. It's also the tip of a very large iceberg.

LOL

Is there any factual basis for these claims besides a few Youtube clips and some old articles from nearly 10 years ago?

For the same reason as 99% of all the other threads here on Greekchat:

TO ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE!!!

OMG, I can't believe what we as a people have degenerated into. We would sooner have multi-page threads on who will win American Idol or America's Next Top Model or who will be the 2007 step show champs of the world (or the fictional bogus Willie Lynch letter) rather than something that will have a direct and permanent impact on our very lives and the way we live it.

Our priorities are seriously twisted. *SMH*

Be sure to attend the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Summit August 20-21, 2007, Montebello, Quebec.

Oh, and check this website out while you're at it, it's the official site of the North American Union taking place under the name of the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

http://www.spp.gov/2005_launch.asp

Except you haven't said a word about the Patriot Act (may it die in flames), there's not a damn thing wrong with either the EU or the Euro, and 9/11 is not in itself an infringement on your civil rights. Feel free to think that the government blew up thousands of civilians and organized a massive cover up somehow getting the agreement of the people who were supposedly on those planes and all that jazz, but I'm going to continue to not give them that much credit. You posted a bunch of Youtube videos, A-1 sources there, and predicted the end of the US consitution and the return of slavery. Riiiiiiiight. I'm going to be up front and say I gave you more credit than this. My bad.


Oh, and there's a difference between advocating "ignorance and silence" and thinking your out of your mind crazy. I'm going with the latter.
Besides, I'm not big on "saving" people. It's that darn Catholic thing again. Most of y'all* don't consider us "saved" in the first place.

*by "y'all" here I mean conservative Christians who insist on saving people, some of whom may include crazy conspiracy theorists.

By this being called a conspiracy theory, I cannot argue with you, but in essence you are absolutely correct.

i think that number is closer to 55%. The other 45% are completely pointless.

"we as a people"? wow, that a pretty lofty generalization from a thread that has replies from 7 people other than you and i in a nation where over 300 million people live.

anywho, i would think that since you seem to be so enthused by this cause that you would have replied to my questions with an emphatic "YES!!" on all fronts, and would provide at least suggestions on how we as a people can help. sometimes, RM, you have to really convince people that something is going to negatively impact their well being. sometimes, you have to make it plainer than day. it's quite possible that no one feels they're educated enough on the issue to effectively comment. or, they may not care. of the leaps that were made, single currency to losing civil rights to the Rapture, may be too much for folks. *shrug*

i see that you think this is a civil rights issue. i get that. but just because the Constitution ceases to exist doesn't necessarily mean that slavery or denying women the right to vote, for examples, are held as good ideas of something we should go back to. i venture to say that there's a minority of people who think these are good ideas. so it's quite possible that this may not be a bad thing. it may not be a good thing, either, but until folks are properly educated (if we're properly educated) we may never know.

Links to these official websites?

I had already posted a link to one of them (see post #23). Another one is this one here:

http://www.commerce.gov/opa/press/Se...Launch_rls.htm

Mexico has a new president, that's got to have an impact on this agreement.

True, but it's still to engage in dialogue, pointless dialogue, but dialogue nonetheless.

I was speaking more on Greekchat in general, not as a nation as a whole, but just for grins and giggles, how much have you heard about this issue before I mentioned it today? Did any of your friends mention this? Relatives? Co-workers? How about through the media? Big Three networks? CNN? Fox News? NPR? BBC? Yes, it was a lofty generalization, but for few people to mention it--and word does get around, especially on the Internet at least hints my assertion has some degree of validity. I am hard pressed to believe that for an event as potentially phenominal as this in an age where information is literally at your fingertips, that more people aren't talking about it. They certainly talked about Paris Hilton getting a slap on the wrist en masse (ps: BUCK A PARIS HILTON!!) :D :p But I digress...

Good paragraph, good points. Very good points. Hence perhaps that's why the signs are so subtle; if everything was to come together at once, the public reaction and backlash would be too great. Hence, the potential negative impact isn't going to be plainer than day. You have to pay attention and watch the signs. Too much presented too soon can make for a very volatile climate.

I see what you're saying, but understand that I am not necessarily indicating that these things will happen (new slavery, denying women to vote, etc.). I am merely indicating that with the new government, there comes new legislation, which raises the possibility of such to occur. One thing I am almost certain of is that our basic Constitutional rights will be done away with, as it is slowly being undermined as we speak.

Calderon is from the same party as Vicente Fox. If Fox supported it, Calderon probably will too.

However, since I have yet to see a credible current source, I think this whole thread is moot.

Maybe. Then again, maybe not.


P.S. Exactly what are you looking for?

A credible (as in The Onion doesn't count) news media source describing how having a combined currency would remove our civil liberties and void our constitution.

since we're talking grins & giggles, no, until you mentioned it, i hadn't heard of this. and i cant say that anyone i know has heard of it either. i definitely did NOT, and do not, expect to hear about it via the media. "fair and balanced" the media is not. and, compared to how many articles there are on ms. hilton et al, and eddie & his issues, there's not much on the internet, either. i do, however, think i have found WHY the public hasn't heard much about this: But then, that comes from a conservative view.



I'll agree to this. Way to back pedal. ;)Your "we will" statements seemed to indicate that you were sure we were doomed. maybe i misread.





a recent, albeit "anti" site on this topic: http://www.amerocurrency.com/index.html

That's an article about a committee that is discussing how to make Mexico more competitive, you know, bolstering their economy. This would be a good thing. There's nothing in there about your other assort ramblings.

I love that the other site, a group aimed at making our borders stronger by increasing the security of both countries to either side of us, and increasing the prosperity of that poor country to the south of us, you know the one where people will risk death to leave and come here and make money? :rolleyes: Yeah, that's really bad guys in disguise. None of this supports what you've said at all. You are Looney Tunes.

Please keep your commentary focused on the issue(s) and not on your personal feelings towards me. If you want to disagree with me, fine. But don't insult me in the process, ok? Thanks.

It is not likely that you'll find one, at least not in the format (read: wording) you'll be looking for. Like I said, this is being kept under wraps for reasons I already mentioned (fear of backlash, revolts, mass panic, etc.).

Please actually reply to my relevant comments if you actually want to prove your case.

BTW, if it's being kept under wraps. How do YOU know about it, and why aren't "they" shutting you up? Oh, that's right, because it's a figment of your imagination. Your official sites say nothing.

Lack of proof (or your idea of such thereof) is neither an excuse nor a license for personal attacks or insults.

Further, given your approach to this topic, I don't think you are looking for proof, and even if it was provided, you would neither accept it nor believe it. You approached this topic with a very cynical attitude, so any attempts for me to appease you would only be an exercise in futility.

That's your opinion, and one which you are entitled to.

You and I will have to declare a stalemate on this topic. We simply don't agree and I can deal with that.

But here's a mitigating point that might put your opinions at ease: for the sake of the future's fate of America, I hope my assertions are wrong. OTOH, I only pray that we are prepared for such a radical undertaking if my assertions do prove correct.

Carry on...