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Rudey 07-04-2007 06:44 PM

Al Gore's Son arrested for speeding and drugs
 
1) Who the heck speeds with a Prius?
2) Normally I'm against any drug arrest, especially for pharmas, but that's one heck of a goody bag Al had with him.
3) Why isn't the dad bailing him out? I felt bad for him until I saw the Roman Numeral at the end of his name and then I was like "ef him".

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/wa...5cnd-gore.html

Al Gore III, 24, was driving a blue Toyota Prius about 100 miles an hour on the San Diego Freeway near the Crown Valley exit in Laguna Hills when he was pulled over by an Orange County sheriff’s deputy at about 2:15 this morning, a sheriff’s department spokesman, Jim Amormino, said.

The deputy smelled marijuana and searched the car, Mr. Amormino said. In the search, the deputy found less than an ounce of marijuana and a clutch of prescription pills that included the narcotic Vicodin, addictive sleep and anxiety aids Valium, Xanax and Soma, and the amphetamine Adderall, which is approved to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder but is also a powerful stimulant.

-Rudey

mystikchick 07-05-2007 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1479694)
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The deputy smelled marijuana and searched the car, Mr. Amormino said. In the search, the deputy found less than an ounce of marijuana and a clutch of prescription pills that included the narcotic Vicodin, addictive sleep and anxiety aids Valium, Xanax and Soma, and the amphetamine Adderall, which is approved to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder but is also a powerful stimulant.

daaaaaaaaaaayum that's quite a collection. Personally, kudos to daddy Gore if he can stay out of this and let his son explain why precisely he had the need for weed and a mini-pharmacy in his car.

yangstar 07-05-2007 04:41 AM

Jeez speeding...both ways apparently.

adpiucf 07-05-2007 10:15 AM

Al Gore has a son?

VandalSquirrel 07-05-2007 10:29 AM

A Prius can go that fast?

33girl 07-05-2007 10:51 AM

The fact that he was speeding in a Prius is the part that cracks me up. Are we sure this isn't Onion-generated?

DSTRen13 07-05-2007 11:09 AM

When I saw this on the news ticker this morning, I only caught the end of it, which cut off the "son of former Vice President" part and just started at "Al Gore was caught ..."

PeppyGPhiB 07-05-2007 02:12 PM

I'm amazed he could go that fast on the 405 in L.A./Orange County...even at 2 am!

UGAalum94 07-05-2007 03:16 PM

When you look at the history Al Gore III has had with drugs, DUI, and arrests, it seems extra perplexing to me.

The common thread seems to be marijuana, which I don't think of as being so addictive that it compromises judgment so much overall to explain his issues.

If the common drug were cocaine, heroin, meth, or maybe even some of the pharmacy he had with him this time, I kind of take for granted that the addiction would have just taken over and it would explain why he couldn't learn from his mistakes. But once you had been kicked out of school or arrested for pot, wouldn't you figure out you might need to quit it?

HBADPi 07-05-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1480046)
I'm amazed he could go that fast on the 405 in L.A./Orange County...even at 2 am!

Actually it would be the 5...405 doesnt go down that far south but still thats pretty damn fast for the 5 as well.

Tom Earp 07-05-2007 04:06 PM

OOPs guess He thought better living through drugs and they gave him a face car driver edge!:rolleyes:

I am sure Al adn Tipper love that little trip he was on!:D

NutBrnHair 07-05-2007 04:31 PM

Poor Tipper -- I bet the child listened to too much nasty rock music growing up.

OneTimeSBX 07-05-2007 05:00 PM

i think Daddy Gore has an interview tonight (or maybe last night?) with someone on TV that was pre-planned...i am willing to put money on the first question out of the reporters mouth...

UGAalum94 07-05-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 1480180)
Poor Tipper -- I bet the child listened to too much nasty rock music growing up.

:)

If only she'd been more successful in her attempts. . .

I wonder how old you have to be to get your joke without wikipedia.

ETA: I'm plenty old enough not to need it.

Kevin 07-05-2007 05:33 PM

I wouldn't be too judgmental of the parents. I know lots of people who have had every chance in the world but screwed their lives up due to addiction.

No amount of good parenting can overcome addiction.

This is Gore's son's case and it's not fair to make it anyone else's. Hopefully, father sends this kid off to a hardcore rehab center (or cuts him off entirely).

UGAalum94 07-05-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1480215)
I wouldn't be too judgmental of the parents. I know lots of people who have had every chance in the world but screwed their lives up due to addiction.

No amount of good parenting can overcome addiction.

This is Gore's son's case and it's not fair to make it anyone else's. Hopefully, father sends this kid off to a hardcore rehab center (or cuts him off entirely).


I think the stuff about Tipper was intended completely humorously and Gore is only mentioned as that's what makes it a news story. Someone else's kid wouldn't be as likely to make the New York Times.

But I've never known anyone to have the recurring issues with marijuana that III has in terms of addiction. You know he's already been to rehab, right?

33girl 07-05-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1480216)
I think the stuff about Tipper was intended completely humorously

Um no, not really. She put herself on a pedestal as far as her parenting skills were concerned, which one shouldn't do unless one is prepared for a long and hard fall.

Then again, I know some of the girls have said they were closer to their dad than their mom, so who knows.

As far as the common drug being pot - I would say he's probably more addicted to just plain getting f'ed up on whatever's at hand than being actually physically addicted to pot. If the pics from his previous arrest are any indication, he had a food addiction in there as well.

UGAalum94 07-05-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1480221)
Um no, not really. She put herself on a pedestal as far as her parenting skills were concerned, which one shouldn't do unless one is prepared for a long and hard fall.

Then again, I know some of the girls have said they were closer to their dad than their mom, so who knows.

As far as the common drug being pot - I would say he's probably more addicted to just plain getting f'ed up on whatever's at hand than being actually physically addicted to pot. If the pics from his previous arrest are any indication, he had a food addiction in there as well.

I'm not a fan of the music censoring garbage, but I don't know if it was really placing her parenting on a pedestal. Actually, admitting that you needed labels to know what your kid was listening to advertises your weak parenting, if anything. But on some level, I get what you are saying.

But if we're going to judge her, she's still at a pretty good percentage in terms of quality of adult produced. And I say that not even particularly being a fan of the Gores.

AKA_Monet 07-05-2007 08:10 PM

Hate to break it to you, but an O.C. CHP in Crown Valley is luser and needed to fulfill a quota.

And to pull over a Prius, dude must have needed a money until he realized who he pulled over. Usually, they write that stuff off. But the O.C. CHiP... Oh well... The county needs money.

UGAalum94 07-05-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1480295)
Hate to break it to you, but an O.C. CHP in Crown Valley is luser and needed to fulfill a quota.

And to pull over a Prius, dude must have needed a money until he realized who he pulled over. Usually, they write that stuff off. But the O.C. CHiP... Oh well... The county needs money.

They write routinely off tickets for people driving 100 miles a hour?

ETA: I think I meant they routinely write off tickets. . .
Thanks for making sense of what was actually there.

AKA_Monet 07-05-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1480296)
They write routinely off tickets for people driving 100 miles a hour?

As I understand it, CHiP officers "sit" on The San Diego Freeway to actually "catch" speeders at 2 AM in the morning.

I know they also sit on the 15 from San Diego to Corona. Once you hit the mountains, they cannot manuever as easily. But, when you get in the desert, they get you, like out in Bakersfield and Barstow. And the Nevada State Troopers sit at the state line at the sign with PreMadonna Maderia to catch racers.

All Californians know you don't speed in certain areas... The only thing is up thru LA, after Camp Pendleton and after the 405 split, you can't speed. Too much traffic.

You could speed after the round corner after San Clemente before Oceanside. And MAYBE every now and then on the 78 HWY. But you NEVER speed after the 52 HWY, or 163 turn off.

You could speed on the 805 thru the ghetto and barrios. But once you get past Otay Mesa, you don't speed anymore.

Then on the I-8, some days, you speed, but maybe not El Cajon or the Imperial Valley. On I-10, you can't speed. Too much traffic. The next one is I-40.

And it is plain dumb to speed on the beach side of the O.C. Maybe Victorville and Moreno Valley, Apple Valley areas. But they have better helicopters there.

Have you witnessed a "run for the border" on TV? And I was on the dayum I-10 when OJ flipped the EFF out in 1994. I was pissed :mad:

UGAalum94 07-05-2007 09:39 PM

I think OJs in the only one I ever really watched.

There was a funny (to me at least) show on for about six episodes one year called It's like, You know* that has an episode about how low speed chases are the equivalent of snow days for California.

*I know this sounds like it would be some Valley Girl crap, but it was better than that. It had the dark haired guy from the Whit Stillman films, the actor who played Charlotte's Jewish husband on Sex and the City, and Jennifer Gray playing essentially herself post-nose job. I'm having deja vu or we've talked about this show before on GC.

PeppyGPhiB 07-06-2007 02:24 AM

I've done plenty of speeding on the 405, 10, 22, 101 and other freeways in L.A. Just not at 100 mph!

HBADPi 07-06-2007 11:06 AM

With all those prescription drugs, I'm wondering if he was making his way back from TJ when he got pulled over...

33girl 07-06-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1480354)
It had the dark hair guy from the Whit Stillman films

This narrows it down, LOL. You could have just said "the hot guy from the Whit Stillman films."

Kevin 07-06-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1480221)
Um no, not really. She put herself on a pedestal as far as her parenting skills were concerned, which one shouldn't do unless one is prepared for a long and hard fall.

Blaming a parent for the drug problems of an adult child without knowing the whole story is actually pretty lame. I'm sure we all know kids whose parents were great -- but those kids ended up in drug problems.

This is especially prevalent among upper middle class kids who use recreationally in HS and college. Some kids just don't get the whole concept of moderation.

33girl 07-06-2007 11:22 AM

Kevin, you're not old enough to remember what a judgemental asshat Tipper was. May I also say that blaming a Prince song for your child's problems is pretty lame.

Kevin 07-06-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1480562)
Kevin, you're not old enough to remember what a judgemental asshat Tipper was. May I also say that blaming a Prince song for your child's problems is pretty lame.

I'm definitely old enough to remember Tipper's little crusade against naughty words and the like. I'm not doubting her asshatedness. Her public stances though don't have much to do with her actual parenting skills. Further, her parenting skills are not really relevant (without more information) to the possible drug problems of an adult son.

I even hesitate to say the kid has a drug problem. For all we know, it could have been a one time indiscretion.

Lil' Hannah 07-06-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1480574)
I even hesitate to say the kid has a drug problem. For all we know, it could have been a one time indiscretion.

It wasn't.

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This is the second time he was arrested on a marijuana possession charge. Police in Montgomery County, Md., pulled over Gore in December 2003 and noticed the smell of pot. Police were also tipped off by the open windows and sunroof despite the freezing temperature.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288047,00.html

UGAalum94 07-06-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah (Post 1480621)

Yep, and he was suspended for pot in high school as well.

That's kind of what I mean about his pattern seeming weird to me. Even if he was messed-up, party-boy, drug-guy in high school and college, he ought to be over it by now if the common link is marijuana*. Maybe it's just that before now it was all he was caught with but he's had a physical dependency on something else the whole time. Who knows? I feel bad for any parents who have to deal with off-spring who keep messing up, and without any evidence that they've been protectors and enablers, I'd try not to think it's a reflection on them if three of four kids turned out well.

*I'm not pro-pot by any measure. It just seems like there's a lot of legalization commentary out there that doesn't match with Al III's issues.

Munchkin03 07-07-2007 08:13 AM

People--of all levels of fame, we see it here on GC all the time--love to put their kids and their parenting skills on a pedestal. The danger in this is that kids do what they want to do, and in most cases the parents end up looking like tools when their kid fouls up.

Tipper really was high and mighty over the PMRC thing, and I've noticed that the higher and mightier you are over your parenting or how great your kids are, your fall ends up being farther and messier than if you had just stayed quiet.


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