London Police Defuse Car Bombs
 

London Police very likely saved a lot of lives today...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11

Despite outstanding efforts by bomb squads, there was a lot of luck in discovering the bombs.

For those who haven't been there, these are two very popular, and busy, areas of London.

I've been to these places. Absolutely horrifying. What is WRONG with people these days?

This was done by fundamentalist Christians I bet.

-Rudey
--Sarcasm is great.

I've been there, too.

I e-mailed a pal who is Senior Director at NBC News last week and he wrote back that he was in London on an assignment.

When the London Subway attacks happened, I was working at UN Headquarters.

This kind of stuff really gets your attention.

(Thanks, Rudey. I'll make careful not of that!)

I was wondering when this would get posted.

I assume Rudey's sarcasm is in full-force. AlQuaeda operatives are the main suspects.

You never know though... the bombs would have been on the Pride Parade route...

A "burning" SUV crashed through a set of doors at Glasgow Airport, the biggest in Scotland. Police say the incident was deliberate.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...5BCC89ABDC6%7D

Police don't know if there is any link to the attempted bombings in London.

Nobody was injured.

ETA, here's another article with some more details and a lot more speculation...

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...cle2723750.ece

I wonder if ABC was on the money when they reported this on the 18th of June?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...ive_suici.html

The UK just raised their threat level to critical, which means they belive that another attack is imminent.

There are unconfirmed reports they also evacuated the hospital where they took one of the bombers because he was wearing some sort of explosive vest.

Thoughts and prayers for the UK.

This is so sad to even think about as have been to the Circus also! Lots of people always there!

These people are dangerous and insane in their beleifs.

Now, I wonder with July 4 th coming up what could happen here in America?:eek:

Knock on wood!

Another report on London...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/30/wo...nd-london.html

DekeGuy, are you in London? If so, what can you add in terms of personal thoughts?

ETA: NBC reports that UK Police now are saying there are links between the London and Glasgow incidents.

When I was in London at age 12, an IRA car bomb blew up outside of Harrod's, just blocks away from where we were at the time. I think the adults were more scared than I was, though.

A few days after I visited the BBC Television Centre on business several years ago, a bomb went off outside.

As a quick update, there have been five arrests reported, including the two at the Glasgow Airport, in the three incidents.

Also, no injuries were originally reported in the airport attack, but now they are reporting five minor injuries as well as one of the attackers who was badly burned and is in critical condition.

The Brits need to stand up and publicly hang these five, send a message to the rest of the world that such attacks will not be tolerated, but the people of Londonistan have a soft spot for getting bombed and are too busy apologizing to the mullahs preaching jihad on the street corners.

Let me guess. You believe that the Brits are soft on terror and don't know how to deal with it right?

It's morons like you that give conservatives the rep for being anti-intellectual or just plain stupid.

What he said.

The British are some of the more resilient people in the Western world. It hasn't been that long since WWII and the London Blitz for them. It's only just about a year since the last bombing there. Just becaues they don't use the death penalty and will try these people appropriately doesn't make them soft on terror. (Nor does a diverse population for that matter)

Here's a quote from Tony Blair for everybody to digest:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2115929,00.html

It isn't real easy to change a fanatic's mind by talking to him/her.

You might want to... you know to actually get a clearer picture of the news.


Why yes that makes perfect sense... afterall 'martyring' terrorists willing to kill themselves would really teach them :rolleyes:

Anyways it definitely didn't work with the Irish republicans since all it did was create martyrs or heroes - heroes still lauded or sung about in pubs today. Killing people ready to die for a cause is self-defeating since they and their supporters accept and expect it really... locking them up is a greater punishment really, and a greater political and intelligence asset than a dead 'martyr'.

While I don't know this to be fact, my understanding is that at least "life" in prison really means that in the UK, as oppossed to getting 75 years off for good behavior or whatever.

If these guys get convicted, we hopefully won't hear from them again.

Agreed. I especially like the BBC and the people they have on that like to say that Al-Qaida and Osama Bin Laden don't really exist, just decoys that Blair And Bush came up with to invade Iraq for oil (which in america we've seen so much of).



What do you suggest we do then? Give them universal health care and free college? Look at it this way, these guys want to die as martrys anyway..It's a win-win scenario, they get their glory and we get their head.;)

No and No. This was an obvious test for the new PM by jihadists, and I hope he shows a strong hand when dealing with them. It seems (from reading the new reports) that the saving grace the British had from these attempted attacks is the fact that these terrorists couldn't blow up a paper bag.

**Isn't is against the rules to personally attack someone or call names?

If you're talking about the subway/bus bombing, it was back in '05 genius :)

Yeah that's my bad on the date. Still more recent than '01.

OMG, dudes were physicians!!! :( The krispy kritter worked in the Queen's Hospital as a physician...

Last I heard, they arrested doctors in connection to the bombing. No word on how they were involved, or even if they were involved.

Nah, I'm leaning towards the Mossad.

The F channel and CNN 360 are calling the mastermind, Dr. Evil, although there is some dispute on the facts.

Here's his picture:

http://www.blackgate.net/blog/wp-content/Dr.Evil.jpg

"Quasi Evil, Semi Evil, the Margerine of Evil, the Diet Coke of Evil--just one calorie, not Evil enough..."

I was about to ask whether the picture was taken before or after they put out the fire -- but that would have been tacky.

Ha ha...

There are more articles abound. There is an issue though: Most places do not trust foreign doctors--except those places that need them the most...

Like a foreign physician in the US has to pass the 2nd and 3rd USMLE, the fellowship board exam and the TOFEL exam. So most physicians do not get their licenses here in the US because they feel it is too much work. Let's just say, most clinicians because I know nurses, psychologists, dentists and veterinarians that won't do it either.

Then, there is a level of basic round/resident clinic work they MAKE you do for to advance to the next test. And as ugly as it sounds, they give most foreign physicians the WORST kind of rounds with tough charity cases--helps them practice their English.

For dentists, I know it rather easier ~2 years on clinical rotation, while they work toward a "green card" or citizenship. But, to get that license to practice, well, there is a counterfiet industry...

I do not know what it is in the UK. They have a National Health Service and a loss of physicians some would say due to Universal Health Care. I would need to see if they fellows really had bonafide medical degrees from their countries and what they had to do to get them. Did they really do clinical rotations and pass several board exams? The prevailing attitude just taking medically terminology classes and slapping a medical degree does not make a physician...

I don't know the what is required of foreign trained doctors in the UK, but I did here that there are a lot of foreign trained doctors in the UK right now because there was a sever shortgage of doctors. They allowed something like 20,000 doctors into the country to practice medicine without checking their backgrounds, i.e as long as they had a medical degree and were licensed to practice medicine in their home country, they were in. They didn't actually do a security background check or anything like that.

Of course. I'm just talking about the general attitude in the west regarding radical Islam. When the new British PM bans the word "muslim" when talking about the current incidents, it's PC gone crazy.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/12172/Brown:-Don

I'm not sure if it's really PC run amok, which it might be, or if it's a way of trying to marginalize the terrorist networks and supporters from anyone who might be mainstream and Muslim.

There are elements of PC that I think have contributed to the recent problems, and we're going to have to figure out how to handle them in the future: the whole "Flying Imams" flap may provide a good example of what I mean here.

But if you have a rapidly growing Muslim population like all of Western Europe does, you've got to figure out a way to make clear that you're not targeting all Muslims for the actions of a limited few, or if it's not a limited few, you've got to figure out what your long range plan is before you tip your hand.

ETA: which isn't to say that I think we have to pretend that we don't notice that the terrorists are Muslim. But when we're condemning the people responsible, we want to make sure the focus in on condemnation for the terrorism.

No it's just being exact... and not fueling the feeling of isolation or being under attack that many Muslims in the UK feel - feelings that the Muslim community says only drives more into the hands of the extremists. So instead of Muslim you'll see the terms Islamists or Muslim/Islamic Extremists.

Its the ideology not the faith of the terrorists that is the issue, and to confuse or muddy the waters about this distinction only makes fighting that ideology all the more difficult.

Not that it matters, but I didn't say what you have me quoted as saying. It was the poster above me.