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DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 11:47 AM

5 Reason not to get an iPhone
 
my first reason is I can't afford nor need it....LOL



Gina Hughes
The Techie Diva

The iPhone hype is so intense right now, I think people will be buying this phone based on hype alone. I mean, is the phone really that great? Our duty is to keep you informed regarding details we come across, so the more I read about the iPhone, the less I want it.

At a glance, the device looks fantastic, features sound fun, and there's no doubt this phone is the "it" phone this year. But realistically, would you pay $500-$600 for any other phone? Like many of you, I'm still debating whether to buy an iPhone or not, so I've compiled a list of cons (since the pros are obvious) just to give myself a reality-check come Friday night.


http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/hughes/14081

starang21 06-27-2007 11:56 AM

i still have yet to buy an ipod.

AlethiaSi 06-27-2007 12:21 PM

i have no desire to get this phone
i heard a review of it on NPR this morning, and he was saying that AT&T's service is absolutely horrible and really slow (like, he said that without a Wi-fi hotspot, you'll wish you had dial-up its that slow)
whats the point of all the gadgetry if the main purposes (as a phone and internet) are basically inefficient...?
(he also said that making a call on the phone takes about 6 "touches/keystrokes"... that to me is ridiculous)

NPR interview

OneTimeSBX 06-27-2007 12:28 PM

i'll admit, the commercials make it look like something you would play with all day at work, instead of actually work. and the screen is big enough that i wouldnt have to squint to make things out.

that said, there is no way in hell id drop 5 or 6 hundred dollars on a PHONE. if someone wants to give me one out of the goodness of their hearts, ill definately take it. until then? and before they work the glitches out? (because you know there will be glitches...there will be an iphone350 or something by next year, just wait)

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1475404)
i'll admit, the commercials make it look like something you would play with all day at work, instead of actually work. and the screen is big enough that i wouldnt have to squint to make things out.

that said, there is no way in hell id drop 5 or 6 hundred dollars on a PHONE. if someone wants to give me one out of the goodness of their hearts, ill definately take it. until then? and before they work the glitches out? (because you know there will be glitches...there will be an iphone350 or something by next year, just wait)


Things i could get for 600 bux ( or less)

a 200 dollar phone

a new PC or laptop

a blu ray player (which is also overpriced)

a 30 something inch HDTV

a trip to Canada (one way....lol)

a new wardrobe.....

a life...LOL

Coramoor 06-27-2007 12:37 PM

The 1st gen is bound to be clunky.

I think it has a lot of potential. When my unit returns from Iraq I imagine that it will be lower in cost and the kinks will be worked out. Then I'll probably get one-or a phone that is very similar.

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 1475412)
The 1st gen is bound to be clunky.

I think it has a lot of potential. When my unit returns from Iraq I imagine that it will be lower in cost and the kinks will be worked out. Then I'll probably get one-or a phone that is very similar.

it will shrink and then not allow you to call your friends who use another carrier citing protection rights....LOL

KDAngel 06-27-2007 12:52 PM

Some of the technical and costs points really make you think. I'm not saying it's not a good phone, but still... you won't see me with one any time soon. But I do <3 apple.

OneTimeSBX 06-27-2007 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1475408)
Things i could get for 600 bux ( or less)

a 200 dollar phone

a new PC or laptop

a blu ray player (which is also overpriced)

a 30 something inch HDTV

a trip to Canada (one way....lol)

a new wardrobe.....

a life...LOL

*sigh, daemon, its all about convenience! people want to do all that stuff on one tiny, expensive gadget that others will lust after! i dont do much travel, but cant a laptop do the whole dvd/cd/playlist/internet/phone thing? i'd truthfully rather have one really super laptop than the iphone.

that isnt going to stop me from playing with it as soon as i can find one ;)

CrimsonTide4 06-27-2007 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1475377)
i still have yet to buy an ipod.

I thought I was the only one. When I work out and have my Walkman, I feel like I am in the gym with a record player or an 8 track machine.


Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1475404)
that said, there is no way in hell id drop 5 or 6 hundred dollars on a PHONE.

There it is!!

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1475434)
*sigh, daemon, its all about convenience! people want to do all that stuff on one tiny, expensive gadget that others will lust after! i dont do much travel, but cant a laptop do the whole dvd/cd/playlist/internet/phone thing? i'd truthfully rather have one really super laptop than the iphone.

that isnt going to stop me from playing with it as soon as i can find one ;)

precisely the reason why I never liked combo devices...if one thing goes wrong u have to send the whole thing in!!

OneTimeSBX 06-27-2007 01:03 PM

yeah, that is true. inconvenience of repair will greatly outweigh the inconvenience of having to ship it to god knows where and being without a phone for 4 weeks!

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1475438)
yeah, that is true. inconvenience of repair will greatly outweigh the inconvenience of having to ship it to god knows where and being without a phone for 4 weeks!

kinda like those tv dvd/vcr combos....lol

AlphaFrog 06-27-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1475408)

a blu ray player (which is also overpriced)

What's the deal with those? All of a sudden, anytime a new movie comes out on "video", they just started advertising "Avalible in DVD or Blu Ray"....

Are DVDs ALREADY on their way out? It seems like they JUST came in, and it's just recently they stopped releasing every movie that came out in both DVD and VCR form.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1475435)
I thought I was the only one. When I work out and have my Walkman, I feel like I am in the gym with a record player or an 8 track machine.

No Ipod here. I do have a CD walkman though.

OneTimeSBX 06-27-2007 01:25 PM

^^oh god what idiot thought that was a great idea? it was a good idea at best lol!

shinerbock 06-27-2007 01:26 PM

Between a trip to Canada and an iPhone, i'll emphatically take the latter.

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1475455)
What's the deal with those? All of a sudden, anytime a new movie comes out on "video", they just started advertising "Avalible in DVD or Blu Ray"....

Are DVDs ALREADY on their way out? It seems like they JUST came in, and it's just recently they stopped releasing every movie that came out in both DVD and VCR form.



No Ipod here. I do have a CD walkman though.


DVD has barely been around 10 years and they are trying to kill the format...Blu Ray and HD DVD are supposed to give you better quality movies because of less compression.....

It gets technical beyond this but let me explain....

in order to get a theatrical movie on a regular sized DVD, it has to be compressed or 'squeezed' onto a DVD disk meaning you may experience a loss of quality picture and sound hence why some dvds have 4 and 5 disks

(like the lord of the rings extended edition where the main movie covers 2 disks alone)

Now putting a movie on Blu Ray or High Density DVD (HD DVD) means you can get everything that takes 4 or 5 disks to store all onto one or 2 disks and with little loss of quality.


here is the problem tho...Blu ray and HD DVD are duking it out betamax vs vhs stlye to see which will become the dominant form of next gen DVD watching...so dont rush out to get a player yet...not at least for another 3 years

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1475457)
Between a trip to Canada and an iPhone, i'll emphatically take the latter.

well I actually had more fun in canada.....LOL

OneTimeSBX 06-27-2007 01:34 PM

the average person would stay broke trying to keep up with technology in their home...and now they are putting half that mess (ipods, navigation) into the cars too!!

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1475467)
the average person would stay broke trying to keep up with technology in their home...and now they are putting half that mess (ipods, navigation) into the cars too!!

it's practically being forced upon us...take HDTV now.....the FCC keeps trying to tell us that you 'need' to have one in your homes by 2000 whenever or else you wont be able to watch TV in analog anymore....I mean yeah...I have one (techno geek) and I have HD service but come on...gimmie some more HD channels please??

CrimsonTide4 06-27-2007 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1475455)
No Ipod here. I do have a CD walkman though.

Uuuuhhh I hope no one thought I still have my tape player walkman that I got for Christmas in 1988.:eek::o:p Mine plays CDs only, lol.

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1475477)
Uuuuhhh I hope no one thought I still have my tape player walkman that I got for Christmas in 1988.:eek::o:p Mine plays CDs only, lol.

aahhhhh....but just think how cool we thought CDs were in the day...no more popped or chewed up cassettes...no more flipping the sides...no more lengthy rewinds just to get to the end of the song...........


and then iPods came along and simplified it even more.....no more dragging a book filled with scratched and beatup disks.

Now all we gotta worry about is copyright protection.

macallan25 06-27-2007 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1475457)
Between a trip to Canada and an iPhone, i'll emphatically take the latter.

Having stayed in the Fairmont Banff Springs in Alberta and gone skiing a couple of times at Whistler ( Whistler Blackcomb and the Fairmont Chateau)..........I must say.......you are out of your mind.

DaemonSeid 06-27-2007 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1475507)
Having stayed in the Fairmont Banff Springs in Alberta and gone skiing a couple of times at Whistler ( Whistler Blackcomb and the Fairmont Chateau)..........I must say.......you are out of your mind.

amen to that....I wanna see someone turn down a trip for an iphone

1908Revelations 06-27-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1475472)
it's practically being forced upon us...take HDTV now.....the FCC keeps trying to tell us that you 'need' to have one in your homes by 2000 whenever or else you wont be able to watch TV in analog anymore....I mean yeah...I have one (techno geek) and I have HD service but come on...gimmie some more HD channels please??

I think there is a conspiracy going on with TVs in my house. All of a sudden my TV doesn't want to pick up all the channels and it has sat in the same spot for years with the same cable. My brother's TV is going nuts as well as my mothers. I can see if we had TVs cased in wood w/ giant tubes or something.

CutiePie2000 06-28-2007 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1475507)
Having stayed in the Fairmont Banff Springs in Alberta and gone skiing a couple of times at Whistler ( Whistler Blackcomb and the Fairmont Chateau)..........I must say.......you are out of your mind.

Hellz yeah, baby!!!

cutie_cat_4ever 06-28-2007 08:41 AM

I won't get them right away until 2-3 months after people try it. It's usually during the period where everyone complains that something doesn't work and have to return and fix (remember the motorola razrs, window vistas?) Usually after that all the upgrades and repairs are done and release more to the public.

Plus, I'm a not a big fan of touch screens, they go bad fast :cool:

OneTimeSBX 06-28-2007 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever (Post 1475923)
I won't get them right away until 2-3 months after people try it. It's usually during the period where everyone complains that something doesn't work and have to return and fix (remember the motorola razrs, window vistas?) Usually after that all the upgrades and repairs are done and release more to the public.

Plus, I'm a not a big fan of touch screens, they go bad fast :cool:

oh, i have a feeling this is not one of those phones you can drop once or twice without seriously damaging...and the touch screen makes me nervous too...very handy to have but it just looks easy to break.

PiKA2001 06-28-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1475961)
oh, i have a feeling this is not one of those phones you can drop once or twice without seriously damaging...and the touch screen makes me nervous too...very handy to have but it just looks easy to break.

Touch screen looks cool, but does seems sketchy, like if you get a crack you wouldn't be able to use it anymore. I wouldnt buy an iphone now because it's not worth the price, especially if you cant insure it. Besides, the toys i have now are just as good. I can just glue my 30GB ipod and BlackBerry together and it'd probably be just as cool as an iphone.

macallan25 06-28-2007 12:20 PM

Yeah......I just can't see myself using all of the features......ever. I have an 80gig video iPod that I only use in my car or on airplanes, never take it jogging or to the office, etc. As far as internet, email, etc......I can't imagine anything being better than the Blackberry.

DaemonSeid 06-28-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1476089)
Yeah......I just can't see myself using all of the features......ever. I have an 80gig video iPod that I only use in my car or on airplanes, never take it jogging or to the office, etc. As far as internet, email, etc......I can't imagine anything being better than the Blackberry.

My fave gadget:

Cowon A2 Player - best 300 buck I ever spent....plays video, mp3s, podcasts, has a radio tuner, A TV tuner (but only works in europe but whatever...lol) photo viewer and documents....plus the battery lasts between 8 to 10 hrs ( and yeah I tested it on my last trip....) It smokes the ipod in all areas except for one thing......size....

kstar 06-28-2007 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
What's the deal with those? All of a sudden, anytime a new movie comes out on "video", they just started advertising "Avalible in DVD or Blu Ray"....

Are DVDs ALREADY on their way out? It seems like they JUST came in, and it's just recently they stopped releasing every movie that came out in both DVD and VCR form.

Blu Ray is Sony's HD-DVD version, which because of liscensing bS by Sony will be not used, and the standard HD-DVD (already available in the Porn Industry) will be used.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
here is the problem tho...Blu ray and HD DVD are duking it out betamax vs vhs stlye to see which will become the dominant form of next gen DVD watching...so dont rush out to get a player yet...not at least for another 3 years

And HD-DVD will win. Oddly, experience has shown us that whichever format the Porn Industry embraces will be the format the general public embraces: VHS, the switch to DVDs, and now the switch to HD-DVD is coming.

DaemonSeid 06-28-2007 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1476172)
Blu Ray is Sony's HD-DVD version, which because of liscensing bS by Sony will be not used, and the standard HD-DVD (already available in the Porn Industry) will be used.



And HD-DVD will win. Oddly, experience has shown us that whichever format the Porn Industry embraces will be the format the general public embraces: VHS, the switch to DVDs, and now the switch to HD-DVD is coming.

Hi definition porn.....wow....u can actually see the orgasm....and hear it...in 7.1 HD Dolby

AlphaFrog 06-28-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1476183)
Hi definition porn.....wow....u can actually see the orgasm....and hear it...in 7.1 HD Dolby

That's a lovely mental picture.:rolleyes:

DaemonSeid 06-28-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1476205)
That's a lovely mental picture.:rolleyes:

this just goes to show how we mentally degrade...we started off taling about a phone and somehow got to porn....someone bring it back please!!!

AlphaFrog 06-28-2007 02:40 PM

I hope you're not including ME in that "we".

I'm never anything but a perfect angel.

btb87 06-28-2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1475463)
DVD has barely been around 10 years and they are trying to kill the format...Blu Ray and HD DVD are supposed to give you better quality movies because of less compression.....

It gets technical beyond this but let me explain....

in order to get a theatrical movie on a regular sized DVD, it has to be compressed or 'squeezed' onto a DVD disk meaning you may experience a loss of quality picture and sound hence why some dvds have 4 and 5 disks

(like the lord of the rings extended edition where the main movie covers 2 disks alone)

Now putting a movie on Blu Ray or High Density DVD (HD DVD) means you can get everything that takes 4 or 5 disks to store all onto one or 2 disks and with little loss of quality.


here is the problem tho...Blu ray and HD DVD are duking it out betamax vs vhs stlye to see which will become the dominant form of next gen DVD watching...so dont rush out to get a player yet...not at least for another 3 years

Thank you for this explanation because I never knew what blu ray disk was. My daughter asked me and I couldn't tell her.

PiKA2001 06-28-2007 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1476172)

And HD-DVD will win. Oddly, experience has shown us that whichever format the Porn Industry embraces will be the format the general public embraces: VHS, the switch to DVDs, and now the switch to HD-DVD is coming.

I don't know about that because Blockbuster announced a few weeks ago that they would be carrying Blu-Ray movies, NOT HD-DVDs in their stores.

DaemonSeid 06-29-2007 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1476209)
I hope you're not including ME in that "we".

I'm never anything but a perfect angel.

LOL!!!

Naw......u know how they say....if you aren't included....sssshhhhh....hehehe


Ok....bringing it back somewhat.....I went out and got a Zune to replace my iPod that was stolen earlier this year.....so far so good...it does just about everything my ipod did...but the one big up I like is the built in FM radio...but it still needs RSS and podcast support....

ForeverRoses 06-29-2007 09:42 AM

I don't plan on getting one of these for several reasons:

1) I'm too cheap
2) sometimes I like to "disconnect"- I don't want to be able to check my voicemail, e-mail, and play music all at the same time when I am at the park with my kids.

side story- we took our boys camping a few weeks ago, and a guy at the campsite next to us was sitting at the picnic table with his laptop out. Not sure if he was somehow able to get internet, but still- 9am on a Saturday at a state park campground and he is typing on a computer!

3) I don't use half the features on the Treo phone that work makes me carry around, so I am pretty sure I wouldn't use most of the features on an iphone.


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