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Senusret I 06-13-2007 08:42 PM

Black Sorority Musical Traditions
 
Let's talk about singing!

Do you believe in the power of the sung word in sororal life?

Can music recruit?

Do you believe that black sorority chapters at HBCUs sing more than chapters at predominately white universities?

At what non-ritual occasions might a sorority sing?

These sound like stupid questions probably, but I am trying to get into a discussion about musical traditions among black sororities, which I have many questions about, not the least of which is why YEARS later I still can't get certain sorority songs out of my head? LOL

Senusret I 09-08-2007 11:43 AM

Aight, y'all had three months to answer, LOL....

But seriously, I also wonder why it seems as though the black fraternity musical tradition isn't as strong as our sorority counterparts. Except, to be honest, I think the Ques have a pretty solid musical tradition in DC.

Anyway, carry on. :)

ladygreek 09-08-2007 12:33 PM

I am just now seeing this.

Very honestly, I think we have lost our singing tradition. When I was a collegiate, sororities did "performances" not step shows. And we did choreographed dances while singing. Also singing on the quad was the norm.

Most of the songs you hear today are from that era. I really haven't heard any new creations.

mccoyred 09-08-2007 12:59 PM

In my era (late 80's) we still sang on the yard but we incorporated more choreography than in previous generations. Now it seems like the vocal tradition is lost and all that is left is the choreography or stepping.

I attended a chapter reunion from my collegiate chapter a few years ago; at this particular event, most of the sorors present were from the late 90's and early 2000's. I suggested we sing our Sweetheart Song on the yard like we used to do back in the day and many looked at me like I had three heads! Humph, old school sorors would have been out in full force ;)

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 09-08-2007 07:48 PM

I would love to learn/know more of our traditional songs...I hate that we moved away from singing more.... :( my random ADD makes it hard for me to master really complex steps but I lOVE music.....

ChanelLover 09-09-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9 (Post 1515576)
I would love to learn/know more of our traditional songs...I hate that we moved away from singing more.... :( my random ADD makes it hard for me to master really complex steps but I lOVE music.....

You sound just like me!:) I'd love to learn more traditional songs.

NinjaPoodle 09-09-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChanelLover (Post 1515788)
You sound just like me!:) I'd love to learn more traditional songs.

Same here. i think it's one of the special things that connects the older generation with the younger.

1908Revelations 09-10-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9 (Post 1515576)
I would love to learn/know more of our traditional songs...I hate that we moved away from singing more.... :( my random ADD makes it hard for me to master really complex steps but I lOVE music.....

The above applies to me! My graduate advisor wants us to sing really really bad, I just am not sure if everyone else wants to. I would love to participate, especially since I saw the Alpha Chapter presentation a few months ago.

Senusret I 09-10-2007 12:01 PM

And here I thought sorority chapters just broke into song all the time like High School Musical. How wrong I was. :)

My grad chapter has recently begun a chorus.... and I'm part of it, but the weekly meetings are really inconvenient. I think that given the nature of my chapter it might be more realistic to teach a new Alpha song at every (other) chapter meeting rather than separate rehearsals. Out of 182 brothers, only six showed up for chorus rehearsal, yet *everyone* thinks it's a good idea.

I am starting to think it's easier to teach aspirants the songs than members.... when you're an aspirant, learning songs is like WOOOOWWWW I am being entrusted with the musical tradition.... and you're more inspired to pass them to the next generation. When you're a member, especially in an alumni chapter, you have lots of songs and styles clashing, so it's like what do you learn first, what's more important, etc. And then too, the songs you learn might *feel* chapter specific, and you might not think it's appropriate to pass them along outside the chapter.

Here is a clip of Kappas singing some song I'd never heard. Try to ignore the groupie reactions: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_FtnPzQjkq8

Still BLUTANG 09-10-2007 12:29 PM

as a non-member, it is really beautiful to see the Sororities sing on campus. During homecoming, after the game everyone congregates at this space on the yard called "the bowl" where each NPHC org has a "plot." Is is an AMAZING sight to see so many generations of women circled up, holding hands, singing (and a little dancing... i've seen one group do something that kinda looked like the hokey pokey). I have only seen this at homecoming though, I am not a member and I am not familiar with the musical traditions of NPHC sororities but as an outsider it's really moving to see.

12dn94dst 09-10-2007 03:04 PM

i, too, think it's a shame we don't sing, or even chant, much anymore. I was talking to a soror who pledged in the 50s; she was very surprised to learn that fraternities don't serenade anymore, much less that sorors don't sing too much either. I'd be interested to know when sorors "stopped" passing songs on as a whole, save cases where there's no one around to do so. it's sad to see at homecoming when you have sorors from the 80s and 90s singing and chanting and sorors from the 00s just standing by not sure if they should ask or what.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 09-10-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1516438)
i, too, think it's a shame we don't sing, or even chant, much anymore. I was talking to a soror who pledged in the 50s; she was very surprised to learn that fraternities don't serenade anymore, much less that sorors don't sing too much either. I'd be interested to know when sorors "stopped" passing songs on as a whole, save cases where there's no one around to do so. it's sad to see at homecoming when you have sorors from the 80s and 90s singing and chanting and sorors from the 00s just standing by not sure if they should ask or what.

I so agree Soror!!

NinjaPoodle 09-10-2007 05:47 PM

Deltas serenading their soror @ her graduation


This is one of the reasons why I joined a sorority. It's one of those beautiful moments that music, specific to the situation, enhances and makes it more meaningful. This is something you remember for the rest of your life.

1908Revelations 09-10-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1516551)
Deltas serenading their soror @ her graduation


This is one of the reasons why I joined a sorority. It's one of those beautiful moments that music, specific to the situation, enhances and makes it more meaningful. This is something you remember for the rest of your life.

We do serenade at graduations. In May we barely made it through the song because everyone was crying.:)

Animate 09-11-2007 02:42 AM

Ya'll have me going around my apartment singing now. Thanks...I hope my neighbors don't get upset if I get too loud.

Sistermadly 09-14-2007 02:53 AM

That had to be the most touching thing I've seen in ages.

DSTCHAOS 09-23-2007 05:06 PM

We often call them "circle songs." Common at homecomings and so forth.

Older chapters have them, whether they are HBCU or PWI. My chapter is young and small so we only sang the Sweetheart Song unless we were visiting another yard. We had a couple of songs, we made ourselves or got from older Sorors, that we sang on special occasions.

The choreography is something I only see when older Sorors have their circles at homecomings or when chapters pass the choreography down each line. I know a few 70s Sorors who showed me their dance routines. I love it.

This is great for tradition and culture. I can't blame younger Sorors for not knowing what older Sorors don't teach them or aren't around to teach them. Perhaps the biggest thing is making sure everyone knows the "official" songs that every Delta should know. Those other songs will either be taught or not taught depending on where you are and how important people think they are.

ladygreek 09-23-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1516438)
i, too, think it's a shame we don't sing, or even chant, much anymore. I was talking to a soror who pledged in the 50s; she was very surprised to learn that fraternities don't serenade anymore, much less that sorors don't sing too much either. I'd be interested to know when sorors "stopped" passing songs on as a whole, save cases where there's no one around to do so. it's sad to see at homecoming when you have sorors from the 80s and 90s singing and chanting and sorors from the 00s just standing by not sure if they should ask or what.

Good question. At some point I think folx thought the songs were lame and too old fashion, and the "choreography" looked silly.

PrettyInPink777 09-25-2007 07:41 PM

Mama, I Wanna Sing!
 
I have also noticed that singing seems to be a lost art!

In the '80s, we had to do it all ..... dance, step, stroll, twirl (yes canes), and definitely sing. I remember rehearsing my sorors and ivies til we had our 4-5 part harmonies soooo tight -- so much that I was given an unfortunate nickname :mad: -- but the singing was HOT (even if some folks were just moving their lips) ;) We felt so close as a chapter when we sang the old songs...especially when the sorors from prior years would visit. I've offered to pass songs on, but I wonder if it's just terribly out-of-fashion to sing?:confused:

facebookjunkie 10-18-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1466318)
Let's talk about singing!

Do you believe in the power of the sung word in sororal life?

Can music recruit?

Do you believe that black sorority chapters at HBCUs sing more than chapters at predominately white universities?

At what non-ritual occasions might a sorority sing?

These sound like stupid questions probably, but I am trying to get into a discussion about musical traditions among black sororities, which I have many questions about, not the least of which is why YEARS later I still can't get certain sorority songs out of my head? LOL

I like this thread topic so i decided to post. I previously attended a rush for xyz organization. When the sorority members walked in, they were holding candles, singing a song in the dark. Needless to say, i was SPEECHLESS. Their singing truly took my breath away. Their harmony was great and i was amazing because i never heard them sing before. i was always interested, but because of that song, my interest in the organization was taken to the next level. so to answer your question, yes, it can DEFINITELY recruit.

NinjaPoodle 10-19-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyInPink777 (Post 1527910)
I have also noticed that singing seems to be a lost art!

.. but I wonder if it's just terribly out-of-fashion to sing?:confused:

No SisterGreek, it's not. I want to sing also

Senusret I 12-16-2007 05:25 PM

I thought this video of the Deltas at Tuskegee was tooooooooo cool! Some of those ladies were easily in their forties singing the exact same songs as the 19 year olds.

Senusret I 12-16-2007 05:39 PM

And while we're on the subject:

AKA wedding serenade

Zeta wedding serenade

DivineDiva47 12-20-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1516551)
Deltas serenading their soror @ her graduation


This is one of the reasons why I joined a sorority. It's one of those beautiful moments that music, specific to the situation, enhances and makes it more meaningful. This is something you remember for the rest of your life.


As I watched this...I got all misty. This is awesome! The first time that I heard our Sweatheart Song sung I feel in love with DST and now many moons later...I can join the circle and sing too! OOO-OOP, Sorors!

neosoul 12-20-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1564273)
And while we're on the subject:

Zeta wedding serenade

Soror P!!! awww.... when Zeta Calls...

neosoul 12-20-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1564264)
I thought this video of the Deltas at Tuskegee was tooooooooo cool! Some of those ladies were easily in their forties singing the exact same songs as the 19 year olds.

that was cute, some of the seasoned ladies were getting it

NiaX 12-20-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by neosoul (Post 1566743)
Soror P!!! awww.... when Zeta Calls...

Yeah.. she used to post on here....she was cool peeps...

AKAShannon 12-20-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1516438)
i, too, think it's a shame we don't sing, or even chant, much anymore. I was talking to a soror who pledged in the 50s; she was very surprised to learn that fraternities don't serenade anymore, much less that sorors don't sing too much either. I'd be interested to know when sorors "stopped" passing songs on as a whole, save cases where there's no one around to do so. it's sad to see at homecoming when you have sorors from the 80s and 90s singing and chanting and sorors from the 00s just standing by not sure if they should ask or what.


Sad, but so true!

titan257 12-21-2007 12:04 AM

This is an interesting subject because I once had a freshman, when I was an RA, tell me that she was interested in XYZ organization. But once she saw their probate she thought that they were not a good representation of the organization because of all the unlady like dancing and their 'singing' was more like rapping. Then I showed her a couple of the probates from larger HBCU's and recommended she look at the organization from a larger standpoint than just the chapter and it opened her mind up to the larger picture.

ladygreek 12-21-2007 01:52 AM

Okay sorors, talking about musical traditions how many of you know P-proud to be..., or The Road was Rough? How about D-E-L--T-A or So Proud...?

Gina1201 12-21-2007 09:04 AM

I know P--Proud to be as well as DEL--TA, love singing them!!

mccoyred 12-21-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1566874)
Okay sorors, talking about musical traditions how many of you know P-proud to be..., or The Road was Rough? How about D-E-L--T-A or So Proud...?

I know the highlighted, but I don't recognize the other two...

DivineDiva47 12-21-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1566964)
I know the highlighted, but I don't recognize the other two...


Ok my seasoned sorors...I don't think that I know these songs...where/how can I learn them...smile! Yall know I am still dusting the sand off...smile! Choir rehersal anyone....LoL!

mccoyred 12-21-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineDiva47 (Post 1566997)
Ok my seasoned sorors...I don't think that I know these songs...where/how can I learn them...smile! Yall know I am still dusting the sand off...smile! Choir rehersal anyone....LoL!

Soror, go directly ==>> to your nearest HBCU or single letter chapter. :D These chapters tend to have the longest and richest traditions.

NinjaPoodle 12-21-2007 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1567054)
Soror, go directly ==>> to your nearest HBCU or single letter chapter. :D These chapters tend to have the longest and richest traditions.

I agree, I learned and witnessed a lot at Grambling. All of the D4's were singing and it was nice to hear. I remember feeling envious because I thought those ladies were so lucky to be part of something like that.

1908Revelations 12-21-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1567235)
I agree, I learned and witnessed a lot at Grambling. All of the D4's were singing and it was nice to hear. I remember feeling envious because I thought those ladies were so lucky to be part of something like that.

Me too. I observed that freshman year when I went to TU. I went to TU Homecoming it was sooooo nice! I wish we had those type of traditions at my chapter.

NinjaPoodle 12-21-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1567236)
Me too. I observed that freshman year when I went to TU. I went to TU Homecoming it was sooooo nice! I wish we had those type of traditions at my chapter.

You just reminded me of the football games. All of the singing and carrying on, who watched the game?:) I was cheerleading so from my vantage point, I could see people having a great time just being in each others company. While they (mainly the greeks) were singing or chanting, there was a camaraderie that was really nice to see even as an outsider @ the time.

MeezDiscreet 12-21-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gina1201 (Post 1566942)
I know P--Proud to be as well as DEL--TA, love singing them!!

Same here. The bolded used to be fun to sing and teach!

knight_shadow 12-21-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1564264)
I thought this video of the Deltas at Tuskegee was tooooooooo cool!

That really was amazing. I'd love to see something like that IRL.

TotallyWicked 01-17-2008 01:58 AM

http://luc.facebook.com/video/video....oid=2261025095
I really liked this! (May need a facebook account to see it), must've been something to just be walkin around campus and bump into this!


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