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DigitalAngel126 06-06-2007 07:22 PM

Sex Education in Public Schools
 
I'm writing a paper about sex education in public schools. The statement that I'm evaluating is: "Organisms must reproduce for the species to survive and yet many young people know very little about sexual reproduction. I am therefore comfortable with the concept of teaching sex education in our public schools."

I know what I think about it, but part of the assignment is getting opinions from sources other than ourselves, our classmates, roommates, parents, siblings, or significant others. That leaves a lot of people to chat with, eh? In any case, to those of you that are willing to bite:

Do you think sex education should be present in public schools? Why or not?


Thanks!

aephi alum 06-06-2007 08:02 PM

Absolutely it should.

Young people should be taught that sex has consequences, one of which is pregnancy. Teenagers are ill-equipped to handle pregnancy, childbirth, and child-raising, and should therefore learn how to avoid becoming pregnant.

The best way to avoid pregnancy is abstinence - it is the only 100% effective method. But it's not the only way - condoms used properly are very effective, as are diaphragms and birth control pills.

Young people should also be taught about STD's, and the fact that the only two ways to protect against STD's is abstinence and condoms.

And young people should be taught about pregnancy, childbirth, and caring for a baby, so that if they do choose to reproduce, they know what to expect.

LeslieAGD 06-06-2007 10:11 PM

I also agree that it should be taught in schools; however, parents need to supplement the school's information by talking to their children at home. A class cannot, and should not, replace parenting.

It's sad how many teens and young adults do not understand how their bodies work and the risks they take by having unprotected sex and numerous partners at such a young age.

honeychile 06-06-2007 10:50 PM

I'm 100% in favor of sex education in ALL schools. While I'd like to say that parents should fulfill that role, and teach their children all about sex, they either are too embarrassed to do so, or are too uneducated themselves. In all honesty, I've told my own mother more about the physical aspect of sexual intercourse than she ever told me - and she was as thorough as she knew how to be.

We had serious sex education from 5th grade through 11th. We were taught on an age-appropriate level, and were told about birth control and STDs. By 9th grade, we had to know how to properly insert a diaphragm or use a condom for our grade (on models, not ourselves!). Anyone whose parents were against them hearing anything about abortion could be excused from that part - but I think hearing about exactly what happens with the different types of abortions is too informative to not hear - and this is from someone who is very much pro-life.

Students need to hear that especially the female body is designed to procreate, and what happens to various parts of the anatomy during sex. Once someone realizes that, it becomes easier to understand the importance of using one method over another, and to become more aware of her own body.

As for the parents, I think their role is to actively reinforce the emotional and spiritual side of sex, and to be open for questions. If they can't answer them, their duty as parents is to find out the right answers, even if it means discussing it with a school counselor.

ziasha07 06-07-2007 12:17 AM

Absolutely! If all you teach is abstinence, when a student gets into a sexual encounter they will only be ignorant about the situation and unprepared. At that point, as an educator you have done nothing for your student in that respect. If anything, you've failed them. You can't expect every student to just accept abstinence, it's unrealistic. If we are taught proper sexual education, it will make us better prepared and equipped to make such a serious decision as whether to have sex or not.

mystikchick 06-07-2007 11:45 AM

absolutely!
i had comprehensive but age-appropriate sex-ed starting in 4th grade through 9th grade, some of which was reinforced in 11th grade IB/AP bio. you better believe i'm well educated as to the risks associated with being sexually active, the benefits of abstinence, the variety of different measures to protect myself from disease and pregnancy, and what to do (God forbid), if something fails.

i have two friends in college who did not have the benefit of such comprehensive education, and thus, as a 19 year old freshman, found myself assuring my friend that there was no human way possible that performing oral sex would result in pregnancy so long as none of the semen got anywhere near her vaginal opening and assuring another friend that bleeding after her first time was perfectly normal (she had had abstinence only education.) i have never felt so glad that i had the education i did as i did then.

knowing all there is to know has helped me make smart, informed decisions about my body and my health, and i think that's vital. sex shouldn't be turned into something taboo, teens should understand that if you have sex, you can get pregnant. but i think it is also important to emphasize the emotional/spiritual aspects of sex as well, because too many kids think it's something you can engage in casually and wind up hurt and damaged emotionally as a result.

overwhelming yes.

Coramoor 06-07-2007 02:32 PM

I'm sure this is a cliche line...but

We can't trust the public education system to teach little johnny long division or mandy US history, yet we trust these dumb ass teachers to teach them sex ed?

Yeah, right.

AlethiaSi 06-07-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 1462804)
I'm sure this is a cliche line...but

We can't trust the public education system to teach little johnny long division or mandy US history, yet we trust these dumb ass teachers to teach them sex ed?

Yeah, right.

But the education NEEDS to be there in the first place in addition to parental guidance.

As Mystikchick said, I had comprehensive sex education throughout elementary, middle and high school and I found myself in situations with friends answering questions that they were truly mystified about, because their PARENTS and SCHOOLS had not taught them otherwise.

Tom Earp 06-07-2007 03:26 PM

There better be besides the Birds an Bees!

Find out how the little one goes in the other thing in stead of learning about through electic plug ins!:D

How, how are babies mad: Stork, under a cabbage leaf, or the rubbing of noses!:eek:

The do rightess said it is wrong to show the Male penis and the female vigina and that is where it all starts! DAR!

Then these little suckers swim up stream as they have the hots for those little eggie things that make babies!:confused:

My Dad tried to tell me about sex as Mom told him to! I listened to his halting speech and said are you talking about having sex?

We never had that conversation again!:D

CutiePie2000 06-07-2007 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD (Post 1462390)
A class cannot, and should not, replace parenting.

Umm...I'd say that a sex education class is certainly in need, given what this person here is doing. She doesn't seem to have a grasp of adequate nor effective contraception methods & LAWD knows what kind of misinformation she'll pass on to her kids. There are some seriously scary "parents" out there who are irresponsible at best.

JonInKC 06-07-2007 09:54 PM

"I remember one time I asked my Grandpa what sex was. He said, 'instead of telling you I'll show you'. We walked out to the barn, and there were my parents. Having sex." :(

-Jack Handey

AGDee 06-07-2007 10:06 PM

I was a little surprised that my daughter got no education at all in this arena. Now, I'm an open parent and have always communicated with my children about this topic and they come to me with questions all the time. However, since we can't ensure that all parents are doing this, I think it's important that something is communicated in the schools.

I was pretty floored when a 40 year old co-worker shockingly got pregnant when she thought it was a "safe" time of the month because she had NO CLUE during which part of the cycle she ovulated. And, this woman has a masters degree in statistics. It just floored me that she didn't know that information.

My mom bought me the book Our Bodies, Our Selves when I was probably 11 or 12. She had told me about everything to expect during puberty, etc. It seems like the basic human development should at least be covered.

My son's class was recently studying different systems (respiratory, excretary, etc.) and they skipped the reproductive system. At age 11, on a worksheet that was standardized, there was a question like "Tell what you know about each system". For the reproductive system, he wrote "It's really gross." LOL I'm keeping that to show him in a few years!

BetteDavisEyes 06-07-2007 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 1462804)
We can't trust the public education system to teach little johnny long division or mandy US history, yet we trust these dumb ass teachers to teach them sex ed?

Yeah, right.

Well, as a "dumb ass teacher" as you so succinctly put, we do the best we can with the limited resources & training we get in this subject. Parents have the final say on what they will allow their child to hear in regards to sex ed. Many parents actually send in notes with demands as to what their child can hear from us and when we're to make them leave the room. There are a lot of dos and don'ts in this subject area. We can only tell them so much. The school I used to work at actually sent the students out to a different room where a RN (male for the boys and female for the girls) would walk them through body changes, sex, etc. Other schools have the teachers tell them the basic facts.


Unfortunately, many parents still have the attitude that sex is taboo and not to be spoken of so they refuse to sign the consent forms.

KSUViolet06 06-08-2007 12:05 AM

Yes it should be. I think there should at least be some education about male/female reproductive systems, puberty (and what it entails for both males/females), the reproductive process (sex & conception).

As far as contraceptives & abstinence, I think those things should BOTH be covered briefly as well. Students should know that sex is a choice, and that they can choose to abstain from sex. Likewise, if students choose to have sex, they need to know about how to prevent diseases & pregnancy.

*I also think that there should be an option for parents to sign something if they do not want their kids to participate, since everyone has different attitudes about sex.

ziasha07 06-08-2007 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1463083)
Well, as a "dumb ass teacher" as you so succinctly put, we do the best we can with the limited resources & training we get in this subject. Parents have the final say on what they will allow their child to hear in regards to sex ed. Many parents actually send in notes with demands as to what their child can hear from us and when we're to make them leave the room. There are a lot of dos and don'ts in this subject area. We can only tell them so much. The school I used to work at actually sent the students out to a different room where a RN (male for the boys and female for the girls) would walk them through body changes, sex, etc. Other schools have the teachers tell them the basic facts.


Unfortunately, many parents still have the attitude that sex is taboo and not to be spoken of so they refuse to sign the consent forms.


In my school system, the parents only sign foms if the DON'T want their children to go.

honeychile 06-08-2007 11:09 AM

I want to add to my own post, that abstinence was very much part of the program, too.

I can remember one point very vividly. Bearing in mind that we had to sit boy-girl-boy-girl, the teachers (always one male, one female) passed around a grapefruit. Then the teacher said how many of the girls complained about cramps every month, which was the result of a heavy period. He then said, "if you think having menstrual cramps are bad, think about this grapefruit. It's roughly the size of a baby's head. Think about the cramps that would go along with that!"

I should also add that I graduated with over 700 in my class. There were exactly two pregnancies in my entire class! Knowledge is power!

I apologize in advance if that's too graphic for some.

Kevin 06-08-2007 11:22 AM

I went to a Catholic school.. we had sex ed in biology. No scary stuff or anything. I'm pretty sure we had no pregnancies out of a class of around 150 or so. I always heard rumors when girls would just "disappear" that they had been sent home. I'm pretty sure they expelled pregnant students or those who had abortions.

That said, maybe we shouldn't have sex ed in schools... it ought to be left to kids to research for themselves on the internet.

There are probably volunteer teachers just waiting in chat rooms.

OneTimeSBX 06-08-2007 11:50 AM

my parents never had the "birds/bees" talk with me, and for the life of me i cant remember where i learned it from! mom did, however, explain my cycle to me in enough detail that i decided i didnt want to be a girl anymore...

by 8th grade, 3 of my classmates had children. by my graduation, 3 more of my close friends had children (one had THREE), and a handful walked across the stage pregnant. within the 2 years after graduation, all of my close friends had children, including myself at 19.

something in the sex ed curriculum isnt working. i applaud the teachers/nurses who do that for a living. i dont think its them. kids have changed, teenagers are soo hypersexed that they make me look chaste! they are having not only sex, but orgies in high school. they have had 3 and 4 partners by their sweet 16's.

there needs to be more videos and photos of EXACTLY what your stuff looks like with herpes. the bills that a baby runs up. what childbirth looks like and feels like with NO EPIDURAL. the results of an aborted child.

to quote George W...they need "shock and awe".

Drolefille 06-08-2007 12:28 PM

Catholic school:

In grade school we had sex ed seperately from any of our other classes. Once in Fourth grade, and once later in seventh or eighth when we saw the whole giving birth video. In high school we had Health class that included sex and Anatomy covered it as well.

BetteDavisEyes 06-08-2007 12:55 PM

We had sex-ed in P.E. when I was in the 6th grade and again, a more detailed version of sex-ed when I was a freshman in high school. I remember our teacher getting into a lot of trouble because she brought in different forms of birth control for us to look at and passed around a diaphragm that turned out to be hers. Ewww...

honeychile 06-10-2007 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1463251)
there needs to be more videos and photos of EXACTLY what your stuff looks like with herpes. the bills that a baby runs up. what childbirth looks like and feels like with NO EPIDURAL. the results of an aborted child.

to quote George W...they need "shock and awe".

Ours was on this line - budgeting for a child while still in school, getting the baby daddy to pay support, all sorts of disease stuff, what happens inside your body when you're having sex (again, it's designed to keep the human race going, not to stop it) - much more detailed and probably more what's needed NOW than when I was in elementary/middle/high school!

Taualumna 06-10-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1463040)

I was pretty floored when a 40 year old co-worker shockingly got pregnant when she thought it was a "safe" time of the month because she had NO CLUE during which part of the cycle she ovulated. And, this woman has a masters degree in statistics. It just floored me that she didn't know that information.


Having no clue isn't all that surprising. Some people have really weird cycles. What I *DON'T* understand is why she wasn't using some form of contraception.

I think schools should teach the reproductive cycle (at age appropriate levels) as early as third grade. If you call it science, then maybe conservative parents would be a little more receptive to it. I actually learned about reproduction from a kids' biology book that my mom got me when I was five (I'm an only child, so I never really had to ask the "where do babies come from" question).

Drolefille 06-10-2007 02:15 PM

Including sex ed in biology won't make conservative parents more accepting of it. All of the same criticisms will come up.

/after all evolution is taught as science

AKA_Monet 06-10-2007 08:59 PM

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