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PrettyBoy 06-05-2007 10:44 PM

Oral Sex may cause throat cancer.
 
I didn't make this up, nor did I type it so they are not my words. I got this info from another greekchat site I post on. Has anyone heard of this? Read below.

Researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health announced last week that oral sex—blowjobs and cunnilingus—may cause throat cancer.
First the bad news—and you better sit down, because it’s really, really bad: If you and your girlfriend have had more than five oral-sex partners in your lives, PBA, you are both 250 percent more likely to develop throat cancer than some sad xxx who’s never had oral sex. Researchers are too polite to point this out, but I’m not: Most Americans xxx and xxx. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, 90 percent of straight men and 88 percent of straight women report engaging in oral sex. Half of all American teenagers have had oral sex; by age 19, the number rises to 70 percent.
“Researchers believe,” reports New Scientist, “[that] oral sex may transmit human papillomavirus (HPV), the virus implicated in the majority of cervical cancers,” and the virus lodges in the throat, where it can cause cancer. Study subjects infected with HPV were 32 times more likely to develop throat cancer; folks who tested positive for one highly aggressive strain of the virus, HPV-16, were 58 times more likely to develop throat cancer. Smoking, previously believed to be the culprit behind most throat cancers, only triples a person’s risk. (A new slogan for the tobacco industry: “Smoke cigs, not xxx.”)
But before we panic—it’s just one study—let’s put throat cancer in perspective. Despite the fact that nearly all Americans engage in oral sex, throat cancer accounts for a tiny percentage of the roughly 1.5 million cases of cancer diagnosed every year. According to the Cancer Facts & Figures report released by the American Cancer Society in 2007, we will see 35,000 cases of oral cancer this year—that’s tongue, mouth, pharynx, and “other oral cavity.” That compares to 271,000 cases of digestive-system cancers, 229,000 cases of respiratory cancers, 220,000 cases of prostate cancer, 180,000 cases of breast cancer.
And let’s put HPV in perspective, too. While most sexually active adults are exposed to HPV at some point, our immune systems usually “clear” the virus on their own. So not every HPV exposure leads to infection, and not every HPV infection is lifelong. Clearly, men and women need to keep an eye on their throats—and researchers are, according to reports, working on a saliva test for HPV—because when it comes to cancer, early detection saves lives.
So while the news is alarming, and the mainstream media will doubtless go into full hysteria mode, last week’s report in the New England Journal of Medicine shouldn’t be read as, “Eat yourself some xxx, get yourself some throat cancer!” Engaging in oral sex puts you at a greater risk—*significantly greater, admittedly—of contracting a virus that, if your body doesn’t clear it, has a very small risk of causing throat cancer. It’s not a certainty; it’s a risk. As with any pleasurable activity, sexual or otherwise, we weigh risks against benefits and make decisions. Smart folks minimize their risks—by, say, using condoms for oral sex (har har)—but most sexually active adults are likely to conclude that the real and immediate pleasures of oral sex are worth risking a distant and unlikely case of throat cancer.
And now for the good news: There’s a vaccine that offers 100 percent protection against the strains of HPV that cause cervical cancer in women and, it now appears, throat cancer in men and women. The HPV vaccine has already been approved for women and is currently being tested in men. You may have already heard of this vaccine thanks to the controversy that surrounds it. The HPV vaccine is most effective when administered before a person becomes sexually active; doctors recommend that girls receive the vaccine at age 11 or 12. Religious conservatives believe that the HPV vaccine undermines abstinence education by making sex less risky. Never mind that numerous studies have shown that abstinence education does not work, HPV vaccine or no HPV vaccine. The right would rather see 4,000 American women die of cervical cancer every year than call off the idiotic, ineffective fraud that is abstinence education.
And up to now the mainstream media have refrained from calling the right’s opposition to the HPV vaccine what it is—delusional, psychotic, homicidal—because up to now only women’s lives were at stake.
That’s about to change.
Here’s the headline from my morning paper: “HPV Factors in Throat Cancer: Study Could Shift Debate About Vaccine.” You bet it will. Up to now the HPV vaccine—which, again, has proven 100 percent effective against the cancer-causing strains of the virus—could merely prevent 10,000 cases of cervical cancer in American women every year, along with 4,000 deaths. But now the debate could shift—it will shift, it already has shifted—because it’s no longer “just” the lives of 4,000 American women that are on the line, but the sex lives of 150 million American men.
“if men got pregnant,” goes the bumper sticker, “abortion would be a sacrament.” Now that straight men can get cancer from xxx, the HPV vaccine is going to go from controversial to sacramental faster than you can say, “xxx.”

Unregistered- 06-05-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1461779)
I didn't make this up, nor did I type it so they are not my words. I got this info from another greekchat site I post on. Has anyone heard of this? Read below.

Another GreekChat site? Please explain.

Minus 12 points for not following the proper article posting protocol.

And sorry, this "article" lost all its credibility once I saw the words that were obviously chosen to replace "penis" and "vagina".

PrettyBoy 06-05-2007 11:00 PM

I got it from Pledge Park.
I agree with OTW so Moderators if the words are too bad for this site please change them, but they are not my words.
Thanks.

DolphinChicaDDD 06-05-2007 11:01 PM

Reminds me of the school doctor at my undergrad back in the day. Go in with a sore throat and the first two questions would be
1. Are you pregnant?
2. Have you had oral sex recently?

PrettyBoy 06-05-2007 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolphinChicaDDD (Post 1461788)
Reminds me of the school doctor at my undergrad back in the day. Go in with a sore throat and the first two questions would be
1. Are you pregnant?
2. Have you had oral sex recently?

Really? I've never heard of that. So it must be true.

AlethiaSi 06-05-2007 11:14 PM

I find that incredibly hard to believe and according to this "piece of scientific evidence" I would/ should already have cancer.... ridiculous

PrettyBoy 06-05-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AlethiaSi (Post 1461795)
I find that incredibly hard to believe and according to this "piece of scientific evidence" I would/ should already have cancer.... ridiculous

LMAO.

Who knows? I met a guy who got throat cancer from drinking too much pop. He told me he had to get his stomach tube tied to the part of his throat that was cut out. It seems like everything causes cancer now. If I have throat cancer I know it's not from the above article. I haven't had many partners at all.

AlethiaSi 06-05-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1461800)
LMAO.

Who knows? I met a guy who got throat cancer from drinking too much pop. He told me he had to get his stomach tube tied to the part of his throat that was cut out. It seems like everything causes cancer now. If I have throat cancer I know it's not from the above article. I haven't had many partners at all.

from drinking too much soda?! not surprising but now I've heard everything :rolleyes: lol

yeah, if I do get it (god forbid obvi), I have a feeling its from the nasty smoking habit I haven't been able to kick, not from giving head lol

PrettyBoy 06-05-2007 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AlethiaSi (Post 1461807)
from drinking too much soda?! not surprising but now I've heard everything :rolleyes: lol

yeah, if I do get it (god forbid obvi), I have a feeling its from the nasty smoking habit I haven't been able to kick, not from giving head lol

LMAO. You're killing me over here.

PrettyBoy 06-05-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlethiaSi (Post 1461807)
from drinking too much soda?! not surprising but now I've heard everything :rolleyes: lol

yeah, if I do get it (god forbid obvi), I have a feeling its from the nasty smoking habit I haven't been able to kick, not from giving head lol

The greekchat site I got this article from, someone from here is over there and PMd me, wanting to know if I'm the same PB from here. Over there you have to have 10 or more post to PM, and I only have one.:(

Small world. LOL:D

SOPi_Jawbreaker 06-06-2007 12:21 AM

The original is from Dan Savage, my favorite sex advice columnist. His advice can often be sarcastic and his viewpoint is definitely liberal. Later on, he did write a correction clarifying the statistics for the HPV vaccine.




http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/S...ove?oid=222516

PrettyBoy 06-06-2007 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1461854)
The original is from Dan Savage, my favorite sex advice columnist. His advice can often be sarcastic and his viewpoint is definitely liberal. Later on, he did write a correction clarifying the statistics for the HPV vaccine.




http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/S...ove?oid=222516

So the info I posted is true then?

I read this after I posted, so I guess it is true. LMAO at the urine. See that's why I think it's important to have just one long term relationship with a person who also believes in one long term relationship.

ThetaLove 06-06-2007 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1461789)
Really? I've never heard of that. So it must be true.

No, that doesn't prove anything.

A common cause of a sore throat in a sexually active young adult is gonococcal pharyngitis.

Although I learned today that the HPV vaccine is going to be pushed more for males as well as females. After all, the male is where the female gets it from. :)

James 06-06-2007 01:17 AM

And vice versa :)

As a side note: In the herpes commercial why is it always the guy that has herpes and some pretty girl is next to him saying she doesn't have it? Why must the guy always be the infected one?

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Originally Posted by ThetaLove (Post 1461865)
No, that doesn't prove anything.

A common cause of a sore throat in a sexually active young adult is gonococcal pharyngitis.

Although I learned today that the HPV vaccine is going to be pushed more for males as well as females. After all, the male is where the female gets it from. :)


christiangirl 06-06-2007 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ThetaLove (Post 1461865)
A common cause of a sore throat in a sexually active young adult is gonococcal pharyngitis.

Yeah, I was going to say this reminds me of that episode of Degrassi where Emma goes down on her boyfriend's best friend and her sore throat turns out to be gonorrhea. Watching her tell her parents that she needed to go to the clinic broke my heart and had me rolling at the same time. :cool:

And since HPV is a virus that can lead to cervical cancer (and males don't have a cervix), I didn't know males can have HPV. :confused: Learn somethin' new everyday.

Drolefille 06-06-2007 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThetaLove (Post 1461865)
No, that doesn't prove anything.

A common cause of a sore throat in a sexually active young adult is gonococcal pharyngitis.

Although I learned today that the HPV vaccine is going to be pushed more for males as well as females. After all, the male is where the female gets it from. :)

Yeah, it's still in testing for men though, and I doubt many guys will get it off label. It's too expensive. HPV can also cause Penile cancer and the vaccine protects from two major strains of genital warts as well. It's a win-win-win.

I know they're testing a Herpes vaccine too though I'm not sure where it is in the process.

Drolefille 06-06-2007 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1461891)
Yeah, I was going to say this reminds me of that episode of Degrassi where Emma goes down on her boyfriend's best friend and her sore throat turns out to be gonorrhea. Watching her tell her parents that she needed to go to the clinic broke my heart and had my rolling at the same time. :cool:

And since HPV is a virus that can lead to cervical cancer (and males don't have a cervix), I didn't know males can have HPV. :confused: Learn somethin' new everyday.

I'm seriously thinking about sending you my textbook from my Psychology of Sex class. It covers the whole range of topics you seem to need learning on ;)

HPV is a virus with multiple strains. Viruses don't discriminate between males and females, but they can have different effects. HPV is one of those viruses that many, if not most, people get and simply get over. However having specific strains of it increases your chances of cervical cancer. This is the same virus that is responsible for genital warts, just a different strain. Penile cancer is another effect although not as prevalent as cervical cancer.

The HPV vaccine contains protection from four strains. Two are the ones that are the predominant precursors to cancer, two are major causers of genital warts.

Men are less likely to catch many STDs but more likely to spread them to women if they have them. Immunizing men would help prevent their both catching and spreading HPV.

christiangirl 06-06-2007 03:58 AM

Haha funny girl, I have a Human Sexuality textbook of my own. Besides, what do I need a book for? I learn all relevant information on GC anyway. ;)

PrettyBoy 06-06-2007 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1461870)
And vice versa :)

As a side note: In the herpes commercial why is it always the guy that has herpes and some pretty girl is next to him saying she doesn't have it? Why must the guy always be the infected one?

LOL at this.

That's why it pays off to just be with one person and vise versa, because if a joker isn't going to do that then he/she shouldn't screw at all. Otherwise risk an STD or mouth cancer, whatever you call it.

xo_kathy 06-06-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1461870)

As a side note: In the herpes commercial why is it always the guy that has herpes and some pretty girl is next to him saying she doesn't have it? Why must the guy always be the infected one?

B/C boys are dirty!!! ;)

DSTCHAOS 06-06-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1461914)
LOL at this.

That's why it pays off to just be with one person and vise versa, because if a joker isn't going to do that then he/she shouldn't screw at all. Otherwise risk an STD or mouth cancer, whatever you call it.

That's with the assumption that you can trust your one person 100%.

Most people can't and diseases are contracted and spread while people are supposed to be in "monogamous relationships."

Also remember that many people trust their significant other's word for it when he or she says they're clean. No asking to see test results and no challenging of what things your mate was tested for. For instance, herpes tests weren't included in the STD testing for many testing sites. You had to specifically request it, separately, but people didn't know this and thought they were being tested for the works. Plus many people don't get tested for HIV.

DSTCHAOS 06-06-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1461818)
The greekchat site I got this article from, someone from here is over there and PMd me, wanting to know if I'm the same PB from here. Over there you have to have 10 or more post to PM, and I only have one.:(

Small world. LOL:D


You're strange.

neosoul 06-06-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1462028)
That's with the assumption that you can trust your one person 100%.

Most people can't and diseases are contracted and spread while people are supposed to be in "monogamous relationships."

Also remember that many people trust their significant other's word for it when he or she says they're clean. No asking to see test results and no challenging of what things your mate was tested for. For instance, herpes tests weren't included in the STD testing for many testing sites. You had to specifically request it, separately, but people didn't know this and thought they were being tested for the works. Plus many people don't get tested for HIV.


true... and plus the cost for getting a herpes test, at least here in VA is over $200... the STD clinic I work offers a sliding fee for STD testing and HIV testing is free, so the most you'll pay for chlamydia, syphillis, gonorrhea, hep A, B, and C is $25... even at the clinic they don't push for herpes testing. Since most people have come on contact with some sort of the herpes virus (cold sore, or chicken pox), majority of the general population aren't aware of how vital it is to test for herpes, at least genital herpes (herpes simplex II)

mulattogyrl 06-06-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1462028)
That's with the assumption that you can trust your one person 100%.

Most people can't and diseases are contracted and spread while people are supposed to be in "monogamous relationships."

Also remember that many people trust their significant other's word for it when he or she says they're clean. No asking to see test results and no challenging of what things your mate was tested for. For instance, herpes tests weren't included in the STD testing for many testing sites. You had to specifically request it, separately, but people didn't know this and thought they were being tested for the works. Plus many people don't get tested for HIV.

To add to this, you could be with one person for a time, and it doesn't work out. So, you go on to the next 'one' person. They don't work out either. Then it's the next 'one' person. You get the picture. Also, people could have diseases that they weren't even aware of until years later, like HPV and chlamydia. That 'one' person thing just doesn't always work out the way you would like.

1908Revelations 06-06-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1462028)
That's with the assumption that you can trust your one person 100%.

Most people can't and diseases are contracted and spread while people are supposed to be in "monogamous relationships."

Also remember that many people trust their significant other's word for it when he or she says they're clean. No asking to see test results and no challenging of what things your mate was tested for. For instance, herpes tests weren't included in the STD testing for many testing sites. You had to specifically request it, separately, but people didn't know this and thought they were being tested for the works. Plus many people don't get tested for HIV.

True!! Plus men can not bet tested for HPV currently since the FDA has not approved such a method. See here.

DSTCHAOS 06-06-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1462069)
To add to this, you could be with one person for a time, and it doesn't work out. So, you go on to the next 'one' person. They don't work out either. Then it's the next 'one' person. You get the picture. Also, people could have diseases that they weren't even aware of until years later, like HPV and chlamydia. That 'one' person thing just doesn't always work out the way you would like.

Definitely!! That's how the "one person" theory works for the average individual. And the "dorminant" disease thing is real. Thanks for bringing that up.

tld221 06-06-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1461870)
And vice versa :)

As a side note: In the herpes commercial why is it always the guy that has herpes and some pretty girl is next to him saying she doesn't have it? Why must the guy always be the infected one?

cause the infected girls are too busy riding bicycles in the woods and taking dance lessons (in their commercials, of course)

PrettyBoy 06-06-2007 10:26 PM

Hey, it's 2007 and it's that FWB garbage that's the in thing now. In return comes the STDs. Being committed to one person is a thing of the past, now jokers are getting throat cancer from oral sex. I wonder what will be next? I wonder how many jokers on GC had or have an STD. :rolleyes:

JonInKC 06-06-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by neosoul (Post 1462046)
true... and plus the cost for getting a herpes test, at least here in VA is over $200... the STD clinic I work offers a sliding fee for STD testing and HIV testing is free, so the most you'll pay for chlamydia, syphillis, gonorrhea, hep A, B, and C is $25... even at the clinic they don't push for herpes testing. Since most people have come on contact with some sort of the herpes virus (cold sore, or chicken pox), majority of the general population aren't aware of how vital it is to test for herpes, at least genital herpes (herpes simplex II)

They told me I got an A and a B on that test. And I thought it was a good thing. :(

J/K.

AKA_Monet 06-07-2007 03:45 AM

Well, it is my understanding that most of these non HIV viral tests are difficult to test because these are blood tests. Since HIV directly affects immuno-competent cells with a CD4+ tag, then it is readily detectible by blood.

Either way, you all be careful with your lovers and make them wear a physical barrier. And if you are female who has sex with males, use some level of birth control if you are not planning on pregnancy...

Because the worst is giving birth with an active STI (sexually transmitted infection) infection that gets passed on to the kid.

As far as "throat cancer" by oral sex. The mouth has everything in it. Throat cancer is like a squamous cell carcinoma (I think?). That means the cells had some nasty bug, like yeast or a tape worm, or environmental trigger, like smoking, that set it off. Unless dude eats leaded dirt with human poop and drinks battery acid, a generalized STI, like HPV or Herpes, is not going to survive the esophageal mastication. It could happen, but extremely rare and highly unlikely.

mulattogyrl 06-07-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1462402)
Hey, it's 2007 and it's that FWB garbage that's the in thing now. In return comes the STDs. Being committed to one person is a thing of the past, now jokers are getting throat cancer from oral sex. I wonder what will be next? I wonder how many jokers on GC had or have an STD. :rolleyes:

I don't know what FWB is, but STDs and cheating are nothing new. They've been around for centuries.

AlethiaSi 06-07-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1462402)
Hey, it's 2007 and it's that FWB garbage that's the in thing now. In return comes the STDs. Being committed to one person is a thing of the past, now jokers are getting throat cancer from oral sex. I wonder what will be next? I wonder how many jokers on GC had or have an STD. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1462641)
I don't know what FWB is, but STDs and cheating are nothing new. They've been around for centuries.

PB, i agree with Mulattogyrl, Idk what FWB is, but it's easy for you to judge about having an STD and I personally don't, however I do have friends that have had them and luckily been able to get medication to get rid of them. These people are not sexually promiscious and were in long term relationships, and their s.o. cheated or other similar situations.

My point is, you're taking an article as truth that isn't true (I myself did think that this could be true, but have since decided otherwise) and using it to go on your tirade. People are not always truthful, maybe in your perfect world, with your perfect girl, people don't cheat, no one has an STD and everything is great. However, that is not real life. Don't shove your ideals on other people and judge them for doing otherwise

cheerfulgreek 06-08-2007 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1462585)
Well, it is my understanding that most of these non HIV viral tests are difficult to test because these are blood tests. Since HIV directly affects immuno-competent cells with a CD4+ tag, then it is readily detectible by blood.

Either way, you all be careful with your lovers and make them wear a physical barrier. And if you are female who has sex with males, use some level of birth control if you are not planning on pregnancy...

Because the worst is giving birth with an active STI (sexually transmitted infection) infection that gets passed on to the kid.

As far as "throat cancer" by oral sex. The mouth has everything in it. Throat cancer is like a squamous cell carcinoma (I think?). That means the cells had some nasty bug, like yeast or a tape worm, or environmental trigger, like smoking, that set it off. Unless dude eats leaded dirt with human poop and drinks battery acid, a generalized STI, like HPV or Herpes, is not going to survive the esophageal mastication. It could happen, but extremely rare and highly unlikely.

lol :p

I just skimmed through the article, and I've never heard of getting cancer from having oral sex. My dentist told me that you can get cancer of the mouth just by not taking care of your teeth and gums. I wonder if the people that this article applies to just have bad hygiene.

AKA_Monet 06-08-2007 02:43 AM

Expansion questions...
 
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Originally Posted by Jock16 (Post 1462300)
we're all gonna die anyway, why not do it having sex? i wouldn't want to do it any other way.

Sweatheart, your <1 minute climax concluding in ejaculation is not worth all the drug regimens required to minimize utter pain by having an sexually transmitted infection, including HIV/AIDS. ;) :p J/K :confused: :)




Everyone here, you all need to know how to crank it out before you get your groove on... Somewhere, I tell you all how and some folks don't like it.

Kama Sutra and Tantra... Really.

cheerfulgreek 06-08-2007 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1463134)
Sweatheart, your <1 minute climax concluding in ejaculation is not worth all the drug regimens required to minimize utter pain by having an sexually transmitted infection, including HIV/AIDS. ;) :p J/K :confused: :)




Everyone here, you all need to know how to crank it out before you get your groove on... Somewhere, I tell you all how and some folks don't like it.

Kama Sutra and Tantra... Really.

What's Kama Sutra and Tantra mean?:confused:
Is it another AKA Monet sex meditation thing?:rolleyes::p

AKA_Monet 06-08-2007 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1463135)
What's Kama Sutra and Tantra mean?:confused:
Is it another AKA Monet sex meditation thing?:rolleyes::p

Kama Sutra and Tantra

cheerfulgreek 06-08-2007 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1463139)

*sigh* There's just so many things involved just to have great sex.

AKA_Monet 06-08-2007 03:28 AM

Sweetheart, what is going on with you? Are we having problems?

cheerfulgreek 06-08-2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1463143)
Sweetheart, what is going on with you? Are we having problems?

What? :confused: lol :p

No.

AKA_Monet 06-08-2007 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1463144)
What? :confused: lol :p

No.

Then having great sex ought not be a chore--more like a challenge!!!


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