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PenguinTrax 06-01-2007 08:08 AM

Regarding the "Can I Join Another Group" threads
 
Per the National Panhellenic Conference unanimous agreements, once a member has been initiated into one group, she is ineligible for membership in another NPC member group. If an initiated member transfers to a university where her affiliated group is not in residence, she is eligible and encouraged to join the local alumnae chapter.

The National Pan-Hellenic Council (NPHC) also prohibits members initiated into other groups from joining an NPHC member sorority.

There have been numerous threads on this topic in both the Recruitment and Greek Life forums. Please take the time to read those threads.

carnation 06-01-2007 09:39 AM

THANK YOU!!!!!

jennie3576 06-14-2007 05:20 PM

seriously.....thank you so very much!

bigred1959 01-17-2008 11:58 PM

If you are given a bid to a sorority but haven't been initiated yet, can you do provisionial rush to try to get into another sorority?

epchick 01-18-2008 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred1959 (Post 1583212)
If you are given a bid to a sorority but haven't been initiated yet, can you do provisionial rush to try to get into another sorority?

Once you have accepted a bid to a sorority, you aren't allowed to bid or rush another sorority for one FULL calendar year.

Unregistered- 01-18-2008 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1583213)
Once you have accepted a bid to a sorority, you aren't allowed to bid or rush another sorority for one FULL calendar year.

...on the same campus. If the PNM accepts a bid in the fall and transfers to another campus in the spring (or accepts a bid in the spring and transfers in the fall), she is allowed to participate in rush and accept a bid (if it is extended).

This is assuming she's asking about NPC sororities, of course. :)

vaisbest 08-20-2008 10:25 AM

But it makes me sad
 
So many schools and so many girls rush....play on words!....to get this done and I wish it was not done the second school starts for these freshmen. They end up in the wrong sorority because they have no clue what is a good fit for them. I know more kids that have dropped out due to not really liking the house they picked. or not realizing that the house does not have the same goals as they thought. then they are penalized because they can't drop and join the house they fit better with. Shame. it would be a much better social organization if all kids were required to wait until jan to rush. just my take.

33girl 08-20-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vaisbest (Post 1701677)
So many schools and so many girls rush....play on words!....to get this done and I wish it was not done the second school starts for these freshmen. They end up in the wrong sorority because they have no clue what is a good fit for them. I know more kids that have dropped out due to not really liking the house they picked. or not realizing that the house does not have the same goals as they thought. then they are penalized because they can't drop and join the house they fit better with. Shame. it would be a much better social organization if all kids were required to wait until jan to rush. just my take.

I agree, but NPC and the sororities don't.

Kansas City 08-20-2008 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaisbest (Post 1701677)
it would be a much better social organization if all kids were required to wait until jan to rush. just my take.



I disagree. Deferred recruitment is okay but it can lead to PNMs creating often inaccurate stereotypes of the chapters for when they do finally go through recruitment. I prefer fall recruitment (particularly for freshmen) when more PNMs have a more open mind when selecting a chapter.

AOEforme 08-20-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas City (Post 1701685)

I disagree. Deferred recruitment is okay but it can lead to PNMs creating often inaccurate stereotypes of the chapters for when they do finally go through recruitment. I prefer fall recruitment (particularly for freshmen) when more PNMs have a more open mind when selecting a chapter.


Agreed. PNMs can end up in the wrong house because of these preconcieved stereotypes.

33girl 08-20-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme (Post 1701692)
Agreed. PNMs can end up in the wrong house because of these preconcieved stereotypes.

But the other side of that coin is - better to have them hear all that, and then get to know the sisters and want to join "the fat house" anyway. That way you know they're there because they like the sisters and want to be there, not because it's the (supposed) most popular group.

We have had too many threads on here saying "I pledged XYZ my first semester and they are NOTHING like they were at rush." If you get to watch and meet sorority members for a semester, that problem disappears. (And if you wait until rush to meet anyone - your bad.)

Mods - can we maybe hook this onto a more pertinent thread or break it into one of its own? I can see it going off on a tangent and that's not what your sticky is for. :)

vaisbest 08-20-2008 01:24 PM

33
 
I totally agree. But when you read the comments like someone else posted that suggests you read something to tell you why your "angel"did not get a bid, it really tells you a lot about the lack of interest in how it all effects these kids. Ladies, these are kids. They are 18, fresh from home and playing grown-up. When I read ugly things telling you to move on if it does not work out, etc, I can only think one thing....girls, look at the mothers of the girls in your recruiting class. ask your moms if other moms like them. cause 9 time out of 10, the daughter acts very like the mother. I have seen many young ladies that have be appalled at the behavior of girls that are the "popular" ones in the sorority that is the popular one. maybe if you are worried that your sorority will get a bad rap, there is a valid reason for that. I have actually counseled someone that had a daughter attend a southern school where one group was on the surface, made up of those that do lots of service and lots of good work. But to their own sisters, they were very different. In her words, if you think the show Greek is just a show, you are wrong. It is exactly how sisters treat each other. And if she had had time to really see what these girls were like she would never had joined. Fall recruitment of freshmen is pushing them into something that many don't really fit into.

Kansas City 08-20-2008 02:46 PM

It's all going to depend on the campus and Greek life scene. The campus that I advise a chapter at has a very active Greek life with generally positive influences in all the chapters. I can't think of one chapter that is something other than what they "market" themselves as being during fall recruitment. Also, our recruitment is formal but not all that competitive and pre-conceived notions do tend to influence upperclassmen (at least on my campus) because freshmen just don't know any better. I would also say that the greatest majority of PNMs on my campus are freshmen (85%?) so it not our campus culture to sit around and wait a semester or a year to find out where you think that you might belong. By sophomore year, most Greeks at my school are actively involved leaders in their organizations.

kellynoelley 08-21-2008 08:58 PM

Local alum wanting to join a national
 
I just needed this clarification: According to the NPHC, can I join a national sorority if I am an alum of a local sorority?

Thanks!!!

DSTCHAOS 08-21-2008 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellynoelley (Post 1702602)
I just needed this clarification: According to the NPHC, can I join a national sorority if I am an alum of a local sorority?

Thanks!!!

Check out the sorority's national website and contact the sorority (not via GC) for additional insight.

33girl 12-10-2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marfi (Post 1753198)
Am I understanding correctly that if you were in a local sorority that you are still eligible for a NPC. I was in a local sorority for a semester but the ethics on campus were appalling and I did not want to be affiliated with such a group so it was a voluntary de-affiliation not forced.

You are still eligible for a NPC group as far as the NPC group's written rules are concerned.

Whether the NPC chapters on your campus will consider you a viable candidate for membership is another matter entirely.

p.s. I would also delete your other post.

Morton 07-24-2009 03:05 PM

My Alma Mater when to delayed rush, and the sorority chapters are half the size they used to be. Having fall rush encourages young women to pledge a sorority to be busy, have a group of friends, etc... When rush is deferred, many already have found their cliques, groups outside of the greek system.

I think there are strong reasons for deferring (especially at big schools with so many sororities), but it certainly does hinder the numbers.

33girl 07-25-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morton (Post 1828692)
My Alma Mater when to delayed rush, and the sorority chapters are half the size they used to be. Having fall rush encourages young women to pledge a sorority to be busy, have a group of friends, etc... When rush is deferred, many already have found their cliques, groups outside of the greek system.

I think there are strong reasons for deferring (especially at big schools with so many sororities), but it certainly does hinder the numbers.

But do the women who pledge usually stay active throughout their senior year? Are the majority of the members active and happy with their choice?

I would rather have 40 sisters who are all involved and participating to the fullest than a chapter of 100 where half are just "jacket sisters" who only participate in the barest minimum to keep from getting kicked out.

becca101 09-23-2009 04:41 PM

when are you initiated...after the new membership trial period?

ellebud 10-24-2009 03:27 AM

So...a question: (I suspect that I know the answer but this is confusing). Girl A accepts a bid for a colony chapter of a national sorority. Two weeks later decides that it isn't "right" for her. Has a friend in a top house, a new member, not an active. New friend supposedly invites her to COB in a house that has met quota. Mom calls Panhellenic (adult advisor) who tells mom that daughter can COB (right now) or rush (in spring). Can someone accept a bid, depledge and the accept a bid within a month period with the exception being made because this is a colony?

33girl 10-24-2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ellebud (Post 1860579)
So...a question: (I suspect that I know the answer but this is confusing). Girl A accepts a bid for a colony chapter of a national sorority. Two weeks later decides that it isn't "right" for her. Has a friend in a top house, a new member, not an active. New friend supposedly invites her to COB in a house that has met quota. Mom calls Panhellenic (adult advisor) who tells mom that daughter can COB (right now) or rush (in spring). Can someone accept a bid, depledge and the accept a bid within a month period with the exception being made because this is a colony?

One of my friends joined a colony in spring, quit, and rushed again the next fall. I think the exception is made because it isn't an officially chartered chapter (that is, there is still the chance it might cease to be before it really begins). I'd be more concerned about the bid that the full house seemingly pulled out of its bum.

csilver7 12-21-2009 11:52 PM

I believe my situation is a little unique and would like ANY information/advice. I was in a sorority at my school (but it is not nationally panhellenic), was initiated and was active for a short period of time before deactivating because I was not satisfied with how the sorority was run and was individually harassed by another sister. Now, quite a while later, I am offered to rush an NPC sorority. Need help as to what to do with/how to approach my former national sorority because I would really like to pursue this new sorority.

Psi U MC Vito 12-22-2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csilver7 (Post 1877229)
I believe my situation is a little unique and would like ANY information/advice. I was in a sorority at my school (the only chapter in the southeast, one of only 26 in the nation, and not nationally panhellenic or panhellenic at my school), was initiated and was active for a short period of time before deactivating because I was not satisfied with how the sorority was run and was individually harassed by another sister. Now, quite a while later, I am offered to rush an NPC sorority. Need help as to what to do with/how to approach my former national sorority because I would really like to pursue this new sorority.

So instead of trying resolve your issues with your sister or trying to take on a leadership role, you decided to quit? Why would you want to join another organization? Because you might have the same issues there.

Also learn discretion, I was able to figure out the sorority with five minutes of research based on your post.

csilver7 12-22-2009 12:14 AM

Dear Psi_U_MC_Vito, I have sent you a private message. Please read and don't be too quick to judge people you don't know.

Also, this sorority is panhellenic at a couple of universities around the country, so I was a little unsure as to my situation.

csilver7 12-22-2009 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1877240)
Being members of a Campus Panhellenic is not the same as being a member of NPC.

So what can this mean for me? I'm sorry for so many questions I'm just very curious.

Psi U MC Vito 12-22-2009 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csilver7 (Post 1877241)
So what can this mean for me? I'm sorry for so many questions I'm just very curious.

It means there is no NPC rules against you pledging, but individual chapters might have a rule against members being part of another sorority. And also, they might be hesitant to give you a bid even if they are allowed to.

AOEforme 12-22-2009 12:34 AM

If you became an active sister, you may require a formal resignation before you can join another group on campus.

For instance, in Alpha Omega Epsilon, you need to fill out the Voluntary Deactivation of a Candidate/Active (depending on your status) and turn in all your membership materials.

If you formally resigned, you should then be eligible, unless your campus panhellenic has a rule that you are bound to any chapter of PHA (rather than just NPC) for a year after accepting a bid.

csilver7 12-22-2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOEforme (Post 1877244)
If you became an active sister, you may require a formal resignation before you can join another group on campus.

For instance, in Alpha Omega Epsilon, you need to fill out the Voluntary Deactivation of a Candidate/Active (depending on your status) and turn in all your membership materials.

If you formally resigned, you should then be eligible, unless your campus panhellenic has a rule that you are bound to any chapter of PHA (rather than just NPC) for a year after accepting a bid.

Thank you very much, this has helped me a lot! I'm really glad this group is here, because I wouldn't know what to do if I had to do this on my own. =)


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