Left Behind
 

I am so ashamed and I apologize to the world for offending some people because I posted on the wrong page.Can we have some civility here and try again.I feel that I have been reprimanded enough.
I would like to have a discussion on how people feel about these books.I must let you know that I am a born-again Christian.I really appreciate how this book is reaching people and saving people's lives.I only hope all my brothers read it and accept it as truth.
As greeks we usually have our own feeling on things that affect us.I just want to hear what others have to say about the book or the movie.And again I apologize to the people I offended.I hope religion is not a taboo subject on the greek pages.

I had never heard about the "Left Behind" books until you mentioned it on the website. But then I noticed that there was a movie out called "Left Behind" as well (with Kirk Cameron in it...guy from "Growing Pains".)

I have not read the books, nor seen the movie. However, it sounds like the critics are pretty merciless in their reviews. Sorry.
http://www.film.com/film-review/2001...lt-review.html http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/mo...ft_behind.html http://mrshowbiz.go.com/reviews/movi...ovie_2001.html

If its the books I am thinking about that are about the end of the world as posted in Revelations . . . I have leafed through a few in Borders.

My opinion from what I have read:

Awesome story idea, the writers could be better. Also, they could have SHOWN us their philosophy rather than tell us so much.

That was one of the flaws in the book I believe.

Got to run . ..

By the way, that is no relfection on people with strong faith.

Whatever crutch you need to go through the world sane is fine, and heavy religious belief can be less physically harmful than some.

Although, it would be funny if we all die and found that the purpose of life was to have the most fun. build great relationships, and avoid directly hurting others. Without a lot of the moralistic stuff we hear.

AMEN AND PREACH ON, JAMES!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by James:
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Whatever crutch you need to go through the world sane is fine, and heavy religious belief can be less physically harmful than some.

I'm so very sorry that you feel that having strong religious beliefs are a crutch. I feel that they are enabling. Actually, they can be a lot more enabling than the imoralistic idea that you can possibly have the "most fun, without worrying about anything or anyone very much." Also, who says the religious people don't have fun?

I think that your kind of "fun" is hurting you and others a lot more than you will ever admit to. When you are having all of that fun, please have a designated driver so that you don't run over me or someone else-PLEASE! And, also please wear a condom so that I don't have to pay for your aids treatment-because it definitely isn't covered by many medical plans, so you will end up on welfare. That means my taxes will have to take care of you. And also, if you survive that crash and are total care-I will have to take care of you then, too. Medicade takes care of you after you run out of money and medical insurance-my tax dollars. So have a lot of fun, just remember that it does cost you one way or the other--and the rest of society.

See, I didn't even mention going to hell, either.

pledgetrainer2:

First of all, James prefaced his reply with no offense to those with strong faith. But a lot of people do use their religion as a crutch ... I firmly believe in God, but I also believe God helps those who help themselves. And everyone has their own beliefs.

Second, why are you assuming that just because a person is greek, they have a certain lifestyle? I'm greek (BGLO) and I have to say, that makes you judgemental. And who are you to judge? Since you are very religious, you should know that's not your role, or anyone elses, but the one upstairs.

ShyOne
Zeta Phi Beta Sorority

I didn't like this topic in the Greek Life forum and I don't like it again in this one.

I haven't read these books. But my curiosity has been piqued. I'll check them out and post a real response to this thread.


BTW, this thread is now in the appropriate forum. If you don't like it, move on to the next thread or start a new one.

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I didn't make a "blanket" statement about Greek life, did I? That is what you accused me of, but I was talking to 1 (one) person, I thought. Is it a GLO mindset to behave in the manner that he was speaking of? I didn't say that, but you are definitely alluding to it.

Why is it that when anything gets serious in nature to discuss that everyone wants the thread closed? Come on, can't we discuss things that are serious or are we just supposed to talk about "bitch pants"?

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Is there something wrong with my computer? I missed the part where James said he was running around with a Captain Morgan IV in his vein boinking everything that moves (and a few things that don't). http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Don't put words in someone's mouth. They might drool all over your hand and make a mess!

Settle down people. Before you go any further, please take a minute to read the Chit Chat forum guidelines.

Midwest Diva hit the nail on the head when she said: "BTW, this thread is now in the appropriate forum. If you don't like it, move on to the next thread or start a new one."

Thanks,
ZetaAce,
Moderator



[This message has been edited by ZetaAce (edited March 09, 2001).]

The chit chat forum guidelines state that we should respect the opinions of others.

We all know that there will be people out there with opinions that differ from yours and I truly accept that.

But I was somewhat offended by the statement "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THREAD OR START A NEW ONE.."

What, we're not allowed to express our dissatisfaction about the threads anymore?

OTW- You are more than welcome to express your dissatisfaction with a thread, however, I don't think it's out of bounds to suggest that if you don't like a thread to just not respond to it. There are always going to be things in life that we don't like, but why not just ignore the inconsequential things and move on.

When I said "Check the forum guidelines" I was directing that at no one in particular. But, I have seen enough threads on GreekChat get totally out of hand, (see: I HATE MY LINESISTERS, for a good example), and do not want to see the same thing happen on the Chit Chat board.

If you have any questions, please feel free to email me.

ZetaAce,
Moderator

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I haven't read the book yet, but I am anxious to see the movie. Justmyo, have you seen the movie yet?

I didn't mean to start anything taht might get out of hand.I just wanted to get some views from people who have read the books and how they feel about them.I am sure there are some Greeks who are born again Christians.We have a right to pst on any board just like anyone else,there are hundreds of topic that I do not respond to.If you don't like this topic don't respond,but don't tell us we do not have the right to post.There is a lot of things that are going on that would not if we all held up to our Christian beliefs."I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ".
I can also have opinions on other issues as well.I hope to hear from the Christians and the non-Christians as well.
I have not seen the movie,I am on book #6 after I have read all nine I will rent the novie.
peace

No offense pledgetrainer2 but if you were talking to that 1 person and you didn't want others to respond, you probably should have emailed that person privately because this is a public forum.

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I am currently reading "Nicolae" and I can't wait to move on to the next one. I was raised as a Christian and I wanted to tell justmyo that I commend her on being born again. What a great void is fills on your life, huh? I also wanted to tell justmyo that the movie Left Behind is only about the first book, not the entire series. So it won't reveal any info you haven't read yet. I still haven't watched it but plan to..
And I just don't understand how some can think that religion is a crutch? Isn't that what GOD and our church families are their for, to lean on and offer support in times of need? I don't want this thread to turn into a bible study class but I just don't understand what the big deal is about justmyo starting her thread in a justifiable forum. Everyone has their different beleifs about religion; justmyo was only asking about a book.
pledgtrainer2: BTW, way to stick up for yourself (and others that are proud of their faith... and still have FUN!!!). You rock!

Thanks for those kind words. I just wanted to question the notion that having as much fun as possible didn't always come at no price to others, even when it's thought that it doesn't. There are prices to pay on this good earth that a lot of people don't understand until it is too late. We don't know what the Everafter holds for us, for sure. I have to believe that it is better than what is on this earth, though. Just my opinion of course. But, I have seen a world of hurt inflicted on those who love the people who are "having a lot of fun" without worrying about how it affects others-or not knowing that it even does.

Thanks for the comments,but I am not a female.I am a Mighty Man of Christ,filled with the Holy Ghost and not ashamed of it.

It is good to see someone with strong Christian beliefs posting here. We all need to be reminded of our belief system, whether it is Christian, Jewish or otherwise, and work on being better people all the time. It's not always easy, when there are so many bad influences on us all, day in and day out.

I've read the first 2 books and I thought they were really great! The scene in (I think) book 2 where Nicholae is conducting the meeting in the UN after Buck gave his life to Christ and what immediately happened after it was one of the most riveting that I have ever read! I could not turn the pages fast enough!! They made me examine my walk with the Lord and ask myself what I am doing to fulfill The Great Commission. I plan getting and reading the others when I am on vacation in a couple of weeks.

OTW,

I'm with you on that.

Kevin