Greek Splinters Groups?
 

Anybody know of any "splinter" groups and their stories?

I only know of two involving Sigma Nu

1) Sigma Nu Chi at SUNY-Geneso happened in the late 90s

2) The Nu Society at Vanderbuilt- Rebel faction after Vanderbuilt shut down Sigma Nu over a bonfire they had.

anybody have any other stories or examples? I find it facinating and part of me feels a little bit angry about the whole thing.

NPHC Example
 

Not sure if this is an apples to apples example but my father is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Many years ago, some members were unhappy with the direction of the main alumnae chapter and started their own club for men who had been members of the fraternity for 25 years or longer.

They pay dues to their club, have guest speakers and social events sponsored by their club and do not interact much with the other chapters in the area. They are very proud members of the organization, they just choose not to affiliate with any of the local chapters.

APEs.

Used to be AEPi but got kicked off in the early 1990's and lost their charter. Exist as essentially a glorified drinking club on campus.

Ironically, according to my brother who is AEPi from Emory, they have APEs their too.

Tau Gamma Theta at Chico State
 

In the 70's I think it was, the members of Phi Kappa Tau chapter at California State University at Chico got fed up with their national, got rid of them and founded their own fraternity, Tau Gamma Theta.

Phi Kappa Tau must have recolonized and they are on campus.

Tau Gamma Theta has a house but are not recognized by IFC. I don't even think that have badges. They WERE known for their heavy drinking and hazing.

That's lame.

Isn't Phi Mu an offshoot of ADPi? Did I read that in here somewhere? :confused:

Um, why didn't that just charter a new chapter? This makes no sense.

I should have read ahead - LOL.

Maybe they tried.

In my area, there was a group of men trying to establish the FOURTH alumni chapter of their org in my city. They were denied.... I actually don't know what their plans are, but it has left the chapter they defected from with very low numbers (all things considered).

Did those men go off and form a "group" to which they pay dues?

If those Kappas tried and were denied, it still makes no sense to pay dues to a "group" but not to the org. Change happens within. I mean they can't use the name of Kappa in what they do, so what good is that?

They could have stayed in the org., still formed their clique, but worked to make changes within.

I know that in Delta you have to have a certain number of currently financial sorors to charter an additional chapter, and it increases with each additional chapter in that area. You also must show proof of being able to sustain the chapters. Maybe that is why that org. was denied a new chapter.

I am not opposed to chartering new chapters in a given area. I consider it as an expansion not a splintering. Maybe they should have approached it that way.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but I don't think so.

NO.

They were both founded at the same university, and had the same professor help them with their "Greek", but one did not come from the other.

Yeah and it isn't uncommon to find 3 or so alumnae chapters within 20-30 minutes of each other.

I don't know Kappa's rules for chartering chapters. But splintering and paying dues for a club is silly. If you can't get a new chapter chartered, be active and try to impact the existing chapter. If you must be a member of a chapter. Then run along with your pals and do separate outtings, play cards and drink together after meetings, and do smaller service events that don't have a chapter attached to it. That's what quite a few folks do. Don't need separate dues to have cliques.

NO

ADPi was founded in 1851
Phi Mu was founded in 1852

at the same school and a founder of ADPi and a founder of Phi Mu were roommates

No off-shoot or splinter group of any kind

I guess it's hard to explain in full in this forum. I think you'd have to live here to see how it operates. It's really not considered "lame" at all and a lot of the more "prominent" members of the organization who live here are part of it. I should have explained as well that they are all financial with grand chapter as members-at-large and they pay dues to this group to support their own activites.

The Vanderbilt "Nu" Society isn't going to be too thrilled that Sigma Nu is recolonizing..

The prominent members part doesn't mean much. But the member-at-large part makes it better because their financial status is recognized by the grand chapter.

They are a clique that pays dues for the clique's survival. Not something I'd do or recommend unless It's presented as nothing more than "a group of likeminded folks doing stuff." The dues makes sense to the extent that unrecognized collectives need some way to fund their excursions without tapping out their personal funds.

How come were they not included? Past History?:confused:

Since they are members-at-large, that's cool as long as they don't present themselves to the larger community as a group of Kappa MALs doing their own thing.

So basically they formed, because the older Kappas didn't like the direction the younger Kappas was taking the chapter? Interesting. Usually it's the other way around.

Have they tried to charter a new chapter?

Indeed.

That's a powerful group of young Kappas. They can get older and some prominent members to run away. Hats off to them. :p

Your guess is as good as mine, but it's probably a pretty good guess :)

Indeed, or maybe the younger ones are now more prominent. Again I assume that nothing the club does is in the name of Kappa. Cuz if that had happened in Delta they would have been shut down immediately.

Blessed 2beDST, what do they call themselves?

Yes, they do have both AEPi and APEs at Emory.

a lot of people don't know that the Philomathean Society that eventually became Phi Mu was formally started on January 4th of 1852 (so yes, 1852, but not that far out of 1851!) However, we were publically announced on March 4th and that is the date that we celebrate as Founder's Day (a lot of people get confused when they read this! One time AXID came in to our meeting to give us a gift for our "Founder's Day" in late January lol! A LOT of people get that one wrong!

Leaving this alone since it seems to be going in another direction.

Not really. Just asked what do they call themselves.

Were it not for splinter groups in Greekdom, some of the largest groups wouldn't exist.

For example:
Sigma Chi from DKE
Founder of Sig Ep was a Chi Phi
DST from AKA

Yeah Kevin I actually e-mailed their Commander (The Nu Society uses our titles, creed, similiar crest, and probably ritual) to talk about their situation. At first I figured they would fold themselves up and rush Sigma Nu or something....instead he wrote back saying that Sigma Nu National betrayed them or something to that effect. He wasn't happy about Sigma Nu re-founding but Sigma Nu had been there since 1888 so The Nu Society is pretty S.O.L. since I'm sure there is strong alumni support for Sigma Nu's re-emergence

The Nu Society even goes as far as calling Sigma Nu founders their brothers and founders.

It's like Bizarro world.....

Sigma Nu Chi at SUNY-Geneso use "Love, Truth, Honor" as part of their values but they added like six others and use baby blue and white instead of black, white, and gold.

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

splinter groups
 

This is as good a list of Delta Upsilon splinter groups as I have.

Vermont Delta Psi. DU chapter 1850-1854 closed 2004 hazing
Harvard DU Club DU Chapter 1881-1942 The Oak Club DU Chapter 1999-2005 The Oak club is very active check out their website.
Bowdoin Delta Sigma DU Chapter 1892-1952 closed 1998 when college banned greeks.
Dartmouth Foley House DU chapter 1926-1966 still exists as a coop!
Amherst Delta Upsilon Delta DU chapter 1847-1969 closed 1984 when college removed greek system from campus.
Brown Kappa Delta Upsilon DU chapter 1868-1967, 1986-1991 closed 1996 when college removed chapter for arson and vandalism.
Wesleyan Omega Phi DU chapter 1919-1952 became Kappa Alpha Society 1967 closed early 1980s.
Union DU was underground for several years after charter recalled for hazing in 1995 status not known.
Syracuse DU was underground for several years after charter was recalled for hazing mid 1990's probably inactive as DU is recolonizing in fall 2007.
Shippensburgh State .DU chapter 1995 -2003. recolonized after going local in 2007.
Ripon Lambda Delta Alpha .DU chapter 1959-1984. inactive 2005. DU may revive in next few years.
Simpson Kappa Theta Psi, DU chapter 1964-1976, still active.
Cal Poly Alpha Upsilon ,DU chapter 1970-1973, returned in 1992.
Pacific Omega Phi Alpha ,DU chapter 1959-1973, returned in 2006.

What are the greek letter designations standing for? I recognize Vermont's as their founding societies letters, but Brown was Gamma Upsilon.

At Iowa State, we had a splinter in the beginnings of the 1900s. My fraternity, Delta Upsilon was founded by the Colonnades Club. Before the foundation, three groups split, at different times. In 1905 the Colonnades was founded, in 1908, the first faction split to become the Colonials because they did not want to be affiliated with a National GLO. In 1910, another group broke from the Colonnades to become the Palisades. From the Palisades, five men broke of to form El Paso Club in 1911. All four groups became affiliated with National GLOs.
--The Colonnades Club became the Iowa State Chapter of Delta Upsilon in 1913.
--The Colonials became Beta Deuteron Chapter of Theta Delta Chi in 1919; even though they had split from Colonnades because they didn't want to affiliate.
--The Palisades became the Phi Chapter of Alpha Sigma Phi in 1920.
--El Paso became the Beta Alpha Chapter of Delta Sigma Phi.

Some Alpha Phi Omega splinter groups
 

I know of 2 Alpha Phi Omega splinter groups:

Phi Rho Eta Fraternity (former members of Zeta Nu chapter - Southern Illinois University at Carbondale)

Theta Beta Phi Fraternity--no longer in existence (former members of Rho Omicron petitioning group - U. of Md. Eastern Shore; the longest lasting petitioning group--5 years until the group got tired of jumping through hoops in getting rechartered and and voted to disaffiliate; at the same time, the National Board voted to deem the group inactive; albeit independent of what the PG was doing and vice versa. So in a sense it was a mutual separation.

Theta Xi chapter (at a now-closed school in New Jersey) was merging with another school. The chapter at the closed school was all-male; the school it was merging with had a co-ed chapter. The all-male group did not want to merge with or lose it's all-male status, so it disaffiliated with APO and became a local social fraternity until it was later picked up as a chapter of.....THETA XI Fraternity.

Side note: I have a feeling with the new requirement that all chapters must be co-ed, there will be more splinter groups forming in Alpha Phi Omega very soon.

And if that happens, good for them.

TRUE. Carry on. :)

Actually, not the case at all sorors, but too complicated to explain the full history here.

Quite honestly, considering that Alpha Phi Omega devolved from a Scouting based fraternity to a Circle K-esque Greek letter club, for those remaining all-male constituency of brothers who splinter from the fold because they want a fraternal brotherhood and not an artificial version of such, I have to say GREAT for them. And this has been the case for at least the past 10 years (I have APO-L archived emails of discussion of this caliber coming from such brothers going back to the early 90s--PM me if you want the links).

This is coming from someone who's 15th anniversary of membership is TODAY but have no plans to celebrate or commemorate in any way, shape, form, or fashion.

Negro, PLEASE.

You have been to my campus and seen my chapter -- Circle K? Don't get it twisted, dude. As long as you've been a member you still haven't seen it ALL.

When's the last national convention you've been to?

Shid, remember the quote "don't argue with a fool..." This is Rain Man we are talking about.

I know..... but you know I've always given him the benefit of the doubt, especially since I've met him in person and allowed him the opportunity to visit my chapter last year during our 50th. To say that Alpha Phi Omega has lost the fraternal spirit..... well, I guess it can't really bother me because it's never left me.