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zenphi237 04-30-2007 07:52 PM

what do i do
 
i am having a lot of issues and have had a lot of issues with my sorority and now i am thnking about dropping my letters and joining a national. what should i do?

Senusret I 04-30-2007 08:12 PM

Go for it! :)

Unregistered- 04-30-2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1438856)
Go for it! :)

40 lashes with a wet noodle for stealing me Kool-Aid, dammit. :mad:

KSUViolet06 05-01-2007 12:01 AM

NPC sororities have no rules against taking women who were once in locals, but it is up to the individual chapter who they choose for membership. I see no harm in trying.

AChiOhSnap 05-01-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1438850)
i am having a lot of issues and have had a lot of issues with my sorority and now i am thnking about dropping my letters and joining a national. what should i do?

Umm do you even have nationals at your school? Based on your previous posts, it wasn't hard to figure out where you go.

zenphi237 05-01-2007 01:14 PM

we have four nationals at our school, and its nothing against them but theyre not what im looking for which is why i joined a local, which also, turned out to not be great, what can i say the girls were good at selling themselves, bad at keeping the image up. i just really dunno what to do. i wish we had adpi at my school lol or chiomega:confused:

MysticCat 05-01-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1438850)
i am having a lot of issues and have had a lot of issues with my sorority and now i am thnking about dropping my letters and joining a national. what should i do?

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1439158)
we have four nationals at our school, and its nothing against them but theyre not what im looking for which is why i joined a local . . . .

So if the four nationals you have are not what you're looking for, then what national are you thinking about trying to join?

AlphaFrog 05-01-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1439158)
we have four nationals at our school, and its nothing against them but theyre not what im looking for which is why i joined a local, which also, turned out to not be great, what can i say the girls were good at selling themselves, bad at keeping the image up. i just really dunno what to do. i wish we had adpi at my school lol or chiomega:confused:

It's not about being a ChiO, ADPi or Sigma, PhiSig, SDT or DPhiE.

Honestly, at the local level it doesn't matter what the letters are, because if you had ChiO instead of SDT or ADPi instead of DPhiE the girls would still be the same. Being a PhiSig instead of an AlphaSig doesn't change you as a person. All of our sororities have great philanthropies, mission statements, creeds, flowers, jewels and patrons, etc...but it comes down to the people, not the letters. ASA was right for me at my school, but who's to say if went to Radford instead that I would have fit better with a different group.

You know what? Maybe being in a sorority just isn't for you. It isn't for everyone.

tld221 05-01-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1439162)
It's not about being a ChiO, ADPi or Sigma, PhiSig, SDT or DPhiE.


:watching my back when ish goes down cause AF sho will put your BI on the street::p

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1439162)
You know what? Maybe being in a sorority just isn't for you. It isn't for everyone.

speak!

AlphaFrog 05-01-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1439174)
:watching my back when ish goes down cause AF sho will put your BI on the street::p

You know it girl - put it out there, I'll call you on it.:D

[note to OP - it takes 5 seconds on Google to locate a local sorority - especially if there's only one of it]

ETA: Some people need specific examples - they just don't "get it", and I had a feeling that this is one of those people.

susan314 05-01-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1439162)
It's not about being a ChiO, ADPi or Sigma, PhiSig, SDT or DPhiE.

Honestly, at the local level it doesn't matter what the letters are, because if you had ChiO instead of SDT or ADPi instead of DPhiE the girls would still be the same. Being a PhiSig instead of an AlphaSig doesn't change you as a person. All of our sororities have great philanthropies, mission statements, creeds, flowers, jewels and patrons, etc...but it comes down to the people, not the letters. ASA was right for me at my school, but who's to say if went to Radford instead that I would have fit better with a different group.

This is quite possibly the truest thing I have ever read on GreekChat.

ETA: It took me less than 2 seconds last night to figure out what school the OP attends. Given that she has already posted some additional personal information, it shouldn't be too hard for her sisters to figure out who she is. Might not be wise to advertise that she's thinking about dropping out and joining a national, unless she wants to create even more conflict in her current sorority.

NutBrnHair 05-01-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1439158)
i just really dunno what to do. i wish we had adpi at my school lol or chiomega:confused:

Oh, I wish I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that!

:p KIDDING! I'm only kidding.:p

AlphaFrog 05-01-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by susan314 (Post 1439179)
ETA: It took me less than 2 seconds last night to figure out what school the OP attends. Given that she has already posted some additional personal information, it shouldn't be too hard for her sisters to figure out who she is. Might not be wise to advertise that she's thinking about dropping out and joining a national, unless she wants to create even more conflict in her current sorority.

Actually, I looked at the OP's GLO website, and I can tell exactly who SHE is. I'm not [thee who shall not be named] so I'm not going to post that info, but just know that it was that easy.

33girl 05-01-2007 02:20 PM

Not to mention we've had quite a few posters from that school on here.

Unregistered- 05-01-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1439182)
Actually, I looked at the OP's GLO website, and I can tell exactly who SHE is. I'm not [thee who shall not be named] so I'm not going to post that info, but just know that it was that easy.

Seriously, can you just shut up and stop already?

You may not be posting her name, but you're just as bad for flaunting the fact that you know who the hell she is now.

AlphaFrog 05-01-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1439188)
Seriously, can you just shut up and stop already?

You may not be posting her name, but you're just as bad for flaunting the fact that you know who the hell she is now.

I'm telling her that she needs to go back and edit some posts - or someone at her school/in her sorority WILL figure out who she is. A lot easier than I did.

Unregistered- 05-01-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1439189)
I'm telling her that she needs to go back and edit some posts - or someone at her school/in her sorority WILL figure out who she is. A lot easier than I did.

Aaaaaand that could have easily been done via PM.

Thanks to you, now a bigger audience will know her identity.

zenphi237 05-01-2007 02:35 PM

truly sorry i even asked :( i didnt know it would be such a problem.

AChiOhSnap 05-01-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1439193)
truly sorry i even asked :( i didnt know it would be such a problem.

It's alright that you asked, but you did make a common mistake that a lot of new GC members make in that you put enough personal information out there already that made it exceedingly easy for anyone to figure out where you went to school.

I have friends from your school that graduated a few years back, and I think you might be confused, actually. The four social sororities on your campus to which you were referring all local -- not national (i.e. members of the NPC). I know your sorority has the title "Local Sorority" in its official name but the rest are locals too.

To answer your original question, your being able to receive a bid if you deactivate has a lot to do with the other sororities' bylaws. Even if you're not prevented from going through recruitment again at your school, it doesn't mean that the other sororities won't view you as a "liability" -- that is, it's possible that the other sororities might view you as a risk if you deactivate from your current sorority and may not be willing to take a chance on you.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong and you were actually referring to wanting to join one of the national professional sororities on your campus, or national multicultural/NPHC sororities. No matter what sorority you're interested in potentially joining if you decide to deactivate, before you move on from here, it would be in your best interest to discuss this situation with your school's Greek life office so you know what your options are.

33girl 05-01-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1439203)
I have friends from your school that graduated a few years back, and I think you might be confused, actually. The four social sororities on your campus to which you were referring all local -- not national (i.e. members of the NPC). I know your sorority has the title "Local Sorority" in its official name but the rest are locals too.

They have 4 national groups too, unless her sorority's at a totally different school than most of us came up w/ in our google.

OrigamiTulip 05-01-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1439203)
The four social sororities on your campus to which you were referring all local -- not national (i.e. members of the NPC). I know your sorority has the title "Local Sorority" in its official name but the rest are locals too.


You may have had an incomplete NM education and never have heard of those groups, but they are still all NPC sororities.

AChiOhSnap 05-01-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OrigamiTulip (Post 1439210)
You may have had an incomplete NM education and never have heard of those groups, but they are still all NPC sororities.

Thanks, but I have had a complete NM, and have heard of all of these groups. I was only familiar with friends who were members of an "Intersorority Council" group. I was under the impression that they were an all local campus based on speaking briefly with my two friends, but as I peruse the website I see that I've missed the NPC section.

So my bad, zenphi, but my advice still holds true. While you may not be precluded from joining these national groups as a matter of bylaw, you may still hit roadblocks if you decide to go through recruitment again if you're viewed as a "liability." I'm sure it has happened before, and it may not happen in your situation, but you should still keep this in mind. You may still want to speak to your Greek advisor and really examine your campus culture to see if going through recruitment again is a viable option for you.

susan314 05-01-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zenphi237 (Post 1439193)
truly sorry i even asked :( i didnt know it would be such a problem.

In all seriousness, there are a few tough questions I would ask myself if I were in your shoes. (And I would recommend against answering those questions in a public forum, as you never know who might be reading...)

1) Is the situation in your current organization something that can be resolved? Sorority life is not all roses and sunshine - both you and your sisters are all under the same stresses as any other college student (academics, family stuff, financial stuff, etc.), and conflicts do occur occasionally. When the incidents are forgiveable, working through them often strengthens the bonds of sisterhood. Be honest with yourself about your feelings regarding your current group and whether or not this is merely a temporary time of conflict.

2) What are your reasons for wanting to join a sorority? Only by being honest with yourself about your motives will you be able to figure out which type of group (local or national) is right for you. Or, whether perhaps sorority life isn't for you at all.

3) What is it about the national groups on your campus that you find unappealing? As Alpha Frog mentioned, at the local level its about the women in the chapter. Every NPC group has admirable ideals and does good things on a inter/national level. Quite possibly, the things you may not like about the 4 NPC groups already on your campus would extend to any other NPC group - if they came to your campus, functioning within your campus situation, drawing members from the same pool of students as the current groups. Just because you might think that XYZ sorority is great from observing them on another campus, does not necessarily mean that you would think XYZ sorority was great if they had a chapter on your campus.

4) What about the other local groups on your campus? If there are no restrictions prohibiting you from joining a different local on your campus, it would be worthwhile to consider whether perhaps you might fit in better at a different local sorority. (Assuming, of course, that you reach the conclusion that you don't want to remain in your current organization and that the NPC groups aren't your cup of tea either.)

5) What if Greek Life isn't for you? Greek Life is great, but its not for everyone. Review your reasons for joining a sorority in the first place - are there other types of organizations on your campus that could meet those needs?

These are just a few tough questions I came up with off the top of my head - at least by carefully reflecting on your answers, you might get a more clear idea about what you need to do. Ultimately, this is a decision you have to make yourself. (Well, the decision to leave your chapter and pursue membership in another group is up to you - obviously, the other chapters have the final say in whether or not you are invited to join!) Just be honest with yourself, and the answer should come to you.

susan314 05-01-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1439219)
Thanks, but I have had a complete NM, and have heard of all of these groups. I was only familiar with friends who were members of an "Intersorority Council" group. I was under the impression that they were an all local campus based on speaking briefly with my two friends, but as I peruse the website I see that I've missed the NPC section.

I missed that section on the university site at first too, so its not just you. :) I think the website design leaves a little something to be desired in terms of clarity, but that's just me. (Not to mention that they spell Panhellenic wrong twice!)

AlexMack 05-01-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1439219)
Thanks, but I have had a complete NM, and have heard of all of these groups. I was only familiar with friends who were members of an "Intersorority Council" group. I was under the impression that they were an all local campus based on speaking briefly with my two friends, but as I peruse the website I see that I've missed the NPC section.

I missed the NPC sorority section too. That website is very poorly designed.

Buttonz 05-01-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1439162)
It's not about being a ChiO, ADPi or Sigma, PhiSig, SDT or DPhiE.

Honestly, at the local level it doesn't matter what the letters are, because if you had ChiO instead of SDT or ADPi instead of DPhiE the girls would still be the same. Being a PhiSig instead of an AlphaSig doesn't change you as a person. All of our sororities have great philanthropies, mission statements, creeds, flowers, jewels and patrons, etc...but it comes down to the people, not the letters. ASA was right for me at my school, but who's to say if went to Radford instead that I would have fit better with a different group.

Truest thing I have ever seen on GC! I can say without question if I started school as a freshman where I am now, I wouldn't be a SDT sister at all...it's not about the letters (at least, on a local level) but it's about the girls.

azule 05-03-2007 03:09 AM

Sounds as though you're already there...
 
I was actually in a similar situation, but my local went national so I had the best of both worlds. Being in a local is nice, but you're missing out on so much more that a local just can't offer (for instance, going to other states and visiting their chapters, or getting on the national site and asking other member's advice for chapter matters... the list goes on).

Advice- check out the nationals on your campus- get out there and look for letters; ask questions! Socials are perfect opportunities for this, and if you've been an active member, other chapters' members will know this and welcome your questions- heck, they'll probably try to recruit you! And, since you're really not far from Fall Rush, take that opportunity to shop the houses and really see what they have to offer- this is a lifelong committment and you owe it to yourself to find your house!

I don't know about the Panhellenic rules on your campus governing locals, but I'm guessing that you won't have a high degree of resistance (especially if your founders didn't write strong bylaws). You will want to check this out, though.


Buttonz 05-03-2007 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by azule (Post 1440221)
I don't know about the Panhellenic rules on your campus governing locals, but I'm guessing that you won't have a high degree of resistance (especially if your founders didn't write strong bylaws). You will want to check this out, though.

I totally disagree, it depends on her campus 100%. While technically at my old school someone could have done this, it was frown upon and I don't think any of the three nationals would have took someone who was initiated into a local....different if you started your NM period and then dropped (like I and a few others did).


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