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futuredukette1 04-21-2007 03:03 AM

I need Assistence
 
I really need help deciding which auxiliary group to join... They all seem so appealing to me.

Ivy Pearls- People say that I'm Ivy Pearl Material... Cuz I'm cute and prim and proper. This was the second group I knew about.:D

Zeta Archonettes- This group is known for their crazy (amount of) parties... And I love to dance and party. But of course I have my limits.;)

Delteens- This was the first group I actually knew existed. This group is known for being laid back and cool. But there's one problem... Delteens are drawing in people that are completely different from myself. And I mean that several people that don't like me want to join.:)

I'm living in Hattiesburg, MS and I realize that the overall personalities may vary from city to city. These are what i've heard about each one. but then again, I plan on moving this year, so I don't know...

Also, who should I go to to get information on interest meetings and things like that?

KSUViolet06 04-22-2007 02:13 AM

You're kidding right?

SoCalGirl 04-22-2007 01:49 PM

In before the lock! :D

Unregistered- 04-22-2007 01:59 PM

I love how she mentions she lives in Hattiesburg, MS but her location reads "Now why would I tell you that?"

violetpretty 04-22-2007 02:20 PM

So these auxillary groups are high school versions of Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Sigma Theta, and Zeta Phi Beta? How does this work? Does it make you a shoe-in to join the respective GLO in college, or is it actual membership in the group already or what? Is this the culture to join an auxillary group in high school in order to join a D9 GLO? I'm curious as to how this works. However, no one online will be able to give you serious advice on which one to join.

ΑΓΔSquirrel10 04-22-2007 05:55 PM

This makes me laugh :D
*In before the lock!*

dgdramadawg 04-22-2007 06:00 PM

Hahahaha, "assistence."

1908Revelations 04-22-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JessSigKap (Post 1434075)
So these auxillary groups are high school versions of Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Sigma Theta, and Zeta Phi Beta? How does this work? Does it make you a shoe-in to join the respective GLO in college, or is it actual membership in the group already or what? Is this the culture to join an auxillary group in high school in order to join a D9 GLO? I'm curious as to how this works. However, no one online will be able to give you serious advice on which one to join.

I can assure you that joining these type of groups will not guarantee membership into ANY of the Fab 4! Period. Check ya PM.

dgdramadawg....that is funny!

also....in before the lock

CrimsonTide4 04-22-2007 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JessSigKap (Post 1434075)
So these auxillary groups are high school versions of Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Sigma Theta, and Zeta Phi Beta? How does this work? Does it make you a shoe-in to join the respective GLO in college, or is it actual membership in the group already or what? Is this the culture to join an auxillary group in high school in order to join a D9 GLO? I'm curious as to how this works. However, no one online will be able to give you serious advice on which one to join.

Speaking only for Delta Sigma Theta, the intent of Delta Academy (11-14 year olds), Delta GEMS (14-18 year olds) and Delteens (not as many chapters have Delteens anymore), these are not meant to guarantee a shoe in to become a Delta. My chapter makes it clear that Delta GEMS are not junior Deltas or anything of the sort. Delta GEMS = Growing & Empowering Myself Successfully which is a program that is mentorship in nature. We do many activities with the girls -- exercise, career and college fairs, test taking, time management, etc.

We do have an application, but it is not meant to be anything more than to see who is interested in being a part of the program and to know more about the girls as well as their goals in life.

SoCalGirl 04-22-2007 09:36 PM

For the NPHC members. While membership in an auxiliary does not gurantee membership do you feel it can give an advantage to the girl or the sorority? It seems to me that these programs will plant the seed of interest in the girls. Also, I would think that a girl would have "extra consideration" during the membership selction process if she does seek the same group in college.

CrimsonTide4 04-23-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1434319)
For the NPHC members. While membership in an auxiliary does not gurantee membership do you feel it can give an advantage to the girl or the sorority? It seems to me that these programs will plant the seed of interest in the girls. Also, I would think that a girl would have "extra consideration" during the membership selction process if she does seek the same group in college.


I wouldn't say advantage, but I am sure it does plant a seed especially if their experience in the respective program was a valuable one and they gained a tangible positive impression about the sorority that sponsored the program.

Extra consideration? Possibly, but it depends on how the young lady presents herself. If she shows up to a DST event and says, "I was a Delta GEM or in Delta Academy so you should pick me to be a member of the sorority." I wouldn't be as inclined to choose over the young lady who says, "I was able to be a part of Delta GEMS and/or Delta Academy in high school and from that I learned XYZ about Delta Sigma Theta and value the organization's contribution to Habitat for Humanity, preparing young ladies for careers in science and math, etc."

AlphaFrog 04-23-2007 09:17 AM

I think the best part of this thread (besides CT4's limitless D9 knowledge, which she freely imparts on us NPCers :D ) is the fact that it's in the Sorority Recruitment forum.

AKA2D '91 04-23-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by futuredukette1 (Post 1433570)
I really need help deciding which auxiliary group to join... They all seem so appealing to me.

Ivy Pearls- People say that I'm Ivy Pearl Material... Cuz I'm cute and prim and proper. This was the second group I knew about.:D

Zeta Archonettes- This group is known for their crazy (amount of) parties... And I love to dance and party. But of course I have my limits.;)

Delteens- This was the first group I actually knew existed. This group is known for being laid back and cool. But there's one problem... Delteens are drawing in people that are completely different from myself. And I mean that several people that don't like me want to join.:)

I'm living in Hattiesburg, MS and I realize that the overall personalities may vary from city to city. These are what i've heard about each one. but then again, I plan on moving this year, so I don't know...

Also, who should I go to to get information on interest meetings and things like that?


What's an Ivy Pearl? Alpha Kappa Alpha does not have auxiliary groups. NOW, chapters do have various mentoring type programs for young ladies and/or men in elementary, junior and/or senior high schools. With each chapter, the program's name(s) vary (ies). Maybe you need to research a bit more.

ETA: You might want to check with those giving you your information. Maybe they can assist you in getting more information concerning these various groups.They seem to have the most accurate information.

OrigamiTulip 04-23-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1434495)
I think the best part of this thread (besides CT4's limitless D9 knowledge, which she freely imparts on us NPCers :D ) is the fact that it's in the Sorority Recruitment forum.


I think the best part of this thread is that her username is just as presumptuous as her questions. :rolleyes:

pinkies up 04-23-2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredukette1 (Post 1433570)
I really need help deciding which auxiliary group to join... They all seem so appealing to me.

Ivy Pearls- People say that I'm Ivy Pearl Material... Cuz I'm cute and prim and proper. This was the second group I knew about.:D

Zeta Archonettes- This group is known for their crazy (amount of) parties... And I love to dance and party. But of course I have my limits.;)

Delteens- This was the first group I actually knew existed. This group is known for being laid back and cool. But there's one problem... Delteens are drawing in people that are completely different from myself. And I mean that several people that don't like me want to join.:)

I'm living in Hattiesburg, MS and I realize that the overall personalities may vary from city to city. These are what i've heard about each one. but then again, I plan on moving this year, so I don't know...

Also, who should I go to to get information on interest meetings and things like that?

:mad: Lil' girl, I pledged the Iota Kappa of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at the University of Southern Mississippi, which is located in Hattiesburg Mississippi. There are NO Ivy Pearls in that area. In fact, there are no auxillary groups in Hattiesburg. We have an ungergrad chapter (IK) and a grad chapter (Theta Sigma Omega). Please know that the world is smaller than you think and if you REALLY believe that places like the V and the Hi-Hat allow UNDERAGE kids into their club, you are NOT from Hattiesburg. Please take your trollish tail elsewhere with that mess. I am too tired of little people like you claiming an organization for which you have NO knowledge other than what you can google on the internet. Please focus on your ACT and your subject area tests so that you can get into college.:cool:

SxyLambdaLady6 04-23-2007 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1434774)
:mad: Lil' girl, I pledged the Iota Kappa of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at the University of Southern Mississippi, which is located in Hattiesburg Mississippi. There are NO Ivy Pearls in that area. In fact, there are no auxillary groups in Hattiesburg. We have an ungergrad chapter (IK) and a grad chapter (Theta Sigma Omega). Please know that the world is smaller than you think and if you REALLY believe that places like the V and the Hi-Hat allow UNDERAGE kids into their club, you are NOT from Hattiesburg. Please take your trollish tail elsewhere with that mess. I am too tired of little people like you claiming an organization for which you have NO knowledge other than what you can google on the internet. Please focus on your ACT and your subject area tests so that you can get into college.:cool:

omg thats awesome lol...

i love how this girl is like hmmm which one should i join? these girls like to party and i like to party too!!!!! wow!!

to the clueless civilian.....

my friend...
each group you have stated are very much more than your description...these are women with principles. i suggest you quit blowin up your spot b/c in the long run you are not going to get accepted. why don't you try going to events before anything..

texas*princess 04-23-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1434201)
Speaking only for Delta Sigma Theta, the intent of Delta Academy (11-14 year olds), Delta GEMS (14-18 year olds) and Delteens (not as many chapters have Delteens anymore), these are not meant to guarantee a shoe in to become a Delta. My chapter makes it clear that Delta GEMS are not junior Deltas or anything of the sort. Delta GEMS = Growing & Empowering Myself Successfully which is a program that is mentorship in nature. We do many activities with the girls -- exercise, career and college fairs, test taking, time management, etc.

We do have an application, but it is not meant to be anything more than to see who is interested in being a part of the program and to know more about the girls as well as their goals in life.

CT - I think it's really neat that your organization offers these mentoring programs in some areas :)

CrimsonTide4 04-23-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1434832)
CT - I think it's really neat that your organization offers these mentoring programs in some areas :)

Thank you. Delta Academy (1997) and Delta GEMS (2005) are national programs. :)

Dionysus 04-23-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OrigamiTulip (Post 1434516)
I think the best part of this thread is that her username is just as presumptuous as her questions. :rolleyes:

A cousin of FutureGreek1? :eek: :o

susan314 04-23-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1434492)
Extra consideration? Possibly, but it depends on how the young lady presents herself. If she shows up to a DST event and says, "I was a Delta GEM or in Delta Academy so you should pick me to be a member of the sorority." I wouldn't be as inclined to choose over the young lady who says, "I was able to be a part of Delta GEMS and/or Delta Academy in high school and from that I learned XYZ about Delta Sigma Theta and value the organization's contribution to Habitat for Humanity, preparing young ladies for careers in science and math, etc."

That sounds reasonable and fair.

This made me curious about something else - say a young lady joined an auxillary group of one of the NPHC sororities and ultimately decided to seek membership with one of the other NPHC groups once she reached college. Might it be held against her that she had a previous affiliation of some type with another NPHC group, or might it be looked upon positively that she had at least shown some interest in positive leadership activities as a teen (even if it happened to be through another group)?

As a side note, I don't know if other NPC groups have mentoring/auxillary programs like this, but Alpha Gamma Delta has a relatively new program called Rosebuds. The program is for preschoolers through 18 year olds (with separate age appropriate activities planned, of course).

futuredukette1 04-24-2007 07:57 PM

I'm Sorry.
 
:( I'm not saying that I know I'm going to be in any auxiliary group and I know that I spelled assistance wrong... Excuse me. And as far as my screen name that isn't exactly an assumption. It's just something to look forward to. It would be so funny IF I actually ended up going to Duke University. I'll tell you IF I do. Also, I changed my mind about not telling and figured that no one would care enough to even CHECK my profile in the first place. I'm so sorry that I have so many problems.
Anyway, yes, they all are groups for girls from the middle and/or high school. They sometimes help the actual sororities do community service projects and they also throw some parties and things like that. Delteens are with Delta Sigma Theta, Ivy Pearls are with Alpha Kappa Alpha, and Zeta Archonettes are with Zeta Phi Beta.:(

Unregistered- 04-24-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1434774)
:mad: Lil' girl, I pledged the Iota Kappa of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at the University of Southern Mississippi, which is located in Hattiesburg Mississippi. There are NO Ivy Pearls in that area. In fact, there are no auxillary groups in Hattiesburg. We have an ungergrad chapter (IK) and a grad chapter (Theta Sigma Omega). Please know that the world is smaller than you think and if you REALLY believe that places like the V and the Hi-Hat allow UNDERAGE kids into their club, you are NOT from Hattiesburg. Please take your trollish tail elsewhere with that mess. I am too tired of little people like you claiming an organization for which you have NO knowledge other than what you can google on the internet. Please focus on your ACT and your subject area tests so that you can get into college.:cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredukette1 (Post 1435414)
:( I'm not saying that I know I'm going to be in any auxiliary group and I know that I spelled assistance wrong... Excuse me. And as far as my screen name that isn't exactly an assumption. It's just something to look forward to. It would be so funny IF I actually ended up going to Duke University. I'll tell you IF I do. Also, I changed my mind about not telling and figured that no one would care enough to even CHECK my profile in the first place. I'm so sorry that I have so many problems.
Anyway, yes, they all are groups for girls from the middle and/or high school. They sometimes help the actual sororities do community service projects and they also throw some parties and things like that. Delteens are with Delta Sigma Theta, Ivy Pearls are with Alpha Kappa Alpha, and Zeta Archonettes are with Zeta Phi Beta.:(

Bwahahahahaa!!!!!

futuredukette1 04-24-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1434849)
A cousin of FutureGreek1? :eek: :o

:( Ummm... No. I don't know FutureGreek1. And I don't see why anyone should get offended by my saying that I hope I'll be in Duke University. It's not like Duke is a sorority. I mean I'm smart enough to get into Duke so I don't see the problem.:(

AlexMack 04-24-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by futuredukette1 (Post 1435418)
:( Ummm... No. I don't know FutureGreek1. And I don't see why anyone should get offended by my saying that I hope I'll be in Duke University. It's not like Duke is a sorority. I mean I'm smart enough to get into Duke so I don't see the problem.:(

Uh...have you had your acceptance letter from Duke and sent back your enrollment deposit to secure your spot in the incoming freshmen class? Only then are you a 'futuredukette'.

futuredukette1 04-24-2007 08:16 PM

LET US TRY AGAIN...
 
:( :mad: OKAY I'LL TRY THIS AGAIN... THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE KNOWN FOR. NOT ALL THEY DO. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE KNOOOOOOWN FOOOOOR. I KNOW THEY ALL HAVE VALUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. LOOK STOP LOOKING FOR THINGS TO PICK AT ME ABOUT AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO DO HELP OUT AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. ACTUALLY THAT'S WHY I ACTUALLY CONSIDERED JOINING A TEEN GROUP. AND I'M MUCH MORE THAN WILLING TO MAKE THIS A COMMITMENT BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO DECIDE IF I GOT SOME HELP FROM SOME PEOPLE THAT I THOUGHT KNEW HOW TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS. AGAIN THESE GROUPS ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL!:mad: :(

Unregistered- 04-24-2007 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredukette1 (Post 1435424)
:( :mad: OKAY I'LL TRY THIS AGAIN... THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE KNOWN FOR. NOT ALL THEY DO. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE KNOOOOOOWN FOOOOOR. I KNOW THEY ALL HAVE VALUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. LOOK STOP LOOKING FOR THINGS TO PICK AT ME ABOUT AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO DO HELP OUT AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. ACTUALLY THAT'S WHY I ACTUALLY CONSIDERED JOINING A TEEN GROUP. AND I'M MUCH MORE THAN WILLING TO MAKE THIS A COMMITMENT BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO DECIDE IF I GOT SOME HELP FROM SOME PEOPLE THAT I THOUGHT KNEW HOW TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS. AGAIN THESE GROUPS ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL!:mad: :(

You should totally copy and paste this word for word and include it in your auxiliary group and Duke Admissions application. :)

Using CAPS LOCK is a definite guarantee you'll get in!!! :D

kathykd2005 04-24-2007 08:43 PM

Come on you all, there is no reason to go after the girl in this manner. She wanted to get some information--she may have been misinformed about these organizations (or even their existence), but that doesn't mean you should talk down to her, particularly by equating the fact that she didn't spell check, or that she :rolleyes: used caps lock, to her intelligence level, or ability to get into Duke. There are many very intelligent people in the world who cannot spell. If you don't like what she's saying, simply don't comment. The thread will die, and you will be happy. Conflict solved!

NicaBoo601 04-24-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1434774)
:mad: Lil' girl, I pledged the Iota Kappa of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at the University of Southern Mississippi, which is located in Hattiesburg Mississippi. There are NO Ivy Pearls in that area. In fact, there are no auxillary groups in Hattiesburg. We have an ungergrad chapter (IK) and a grad chapter (Theta Sigma Omega). Please know that the world is smaller than you think and if you REALLY believe that places like the V and the Hi-Hat allow UNDERAGE kids into their club, you are NOT from Hattiesburg. Please take your trollish tail elsewhere with that mess. I am too tired of little people like you claiming an organization for which you have NO knowledge other than what you can google on the internet. Please focus on your ACT and your subject area tests so that you can get into college.:cool:

The last thing I want to do is worry about getting into a club and I know for a fact that I'm not from Hattiesburg and i'm proud of where i'm from but I know what they have here cuz believe it or not I live here I could care less if they let them get into clubs or not. If I offended you I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I meant no harm by it. I was just asking out of curiosity. Oh, and I'm not claiming anything. I'm just asking about them.

NicaBoo601 04-24-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kathykd2005 (Post 1435434)
Come on you all, there is no reason to go after the girl in this manner. She wanted to get some information--she may have been misinformed about these organizations (or even their existence), but that doesn't mean you should talk down to her, particularly by equating the fact that she didn't spell check, or that she :rolleyes: used caps lock, to her intelligence level, or ability to get into Duke. There are many very intelligent people in the world who cannot spell. If you don't like what she's saying, simply don't comment. The thread will die, and you will be happy. Conflict solved!

I'm very good at english. I just had a moment there. I'm sure that
we all have them. I just didn't bother to use spell check. Thank you so much for your help. I think I was about to cry. I'm not trying to be a victim or anything but I get looked down on every day of the week and It doesn't help being looked down on by people I don't even know. I was hoping that I could go somewhere where I could be accepted. And Again, the things I said about the groups (particularly Zeta Archonettes) are what they are known for by people at my school, some people who aren't in any of the groups, and some parents of students of Hattiesburg High.

NicaBoo601 04-24-2007 09:08 PM

also some of the people from some of the groups.

1908Revelations 04-24-2007 09:29 PM

:confused: :confused: :confused: Is it just me?!?! Or did the OP switch sockpuppets?!?!

Unregistered- 04-24-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1435453)
:confused: :confused: :confused: Is it just me?!?! Or did the OP switch sockpuppets?!?!

She got a new screen name because we gave her crap about her original one.

Dionysus 04-24-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicaBoo601 (Post 1435440)
The last thing I want to do is worry about getting into a club and I know for a fact that I'm not from Hattiesburg and i'm proud of where i'm from but I know what they have here cuz believe it or not I live here I could care less if they let them get into clubs or not. If I offended you I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I meant no harm by it. I was just asking out of curiosity. Oh, and I'm not claiming anything. I'm just asking about them.

NiccaBoo????

That's a ghetto ass username! :eek:

pinkies up 04-24-2007 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicaBoo601 (Post 1435440)
The last thing I want to do is worry about getting into a club and I know for a fact that I'm not from Hattiesburg and i'm proud of where i'm from but I know what they have here cuz believe it or not I live here I could care less if they let them get into clubs or not. If I offended you I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I meant no harm by it. I was just asking out of curiosity. Oh, and I'm not claiming anything. I'm just asking about them.

'Cuz you're going to Duke and all...:cool: Listen to me veeeeery carefully...There are NO auxillary programs sponsored by the memebers of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. in Hattiesburg. We tutor at the Salvation Army Boys and Girls Club and also in Palmer's Crossing. Should I give you the days and times so that you can attend these sessions?

OmegaPDPrez 04-24-2007 10:17 PM

:confused:

NicaBoo601 04-24-2007 10:24 PM

Hey
 
Can't I be free to spell how I want to online? I mean goodness I speak proper english all day every day. 24/7/365. I mean people give me crap about my speaking proper english all the time, and now people are giving me crap about the way i spell a couple of words online. What should I do? I can't help it if I speak proper english where I need to and type things a little incorrectly where I don't have to speak proper english. And as far as my Screen Name goes, I'm not ghetto; that's my nickname. My real name is Veronica. Do you see where the Nica comes in? Some people call me Nica and some call me Nica Boo. It depends on who they are. That's where NicaBoo comes from. 601, of course, comes from Hattiesburg's area code.

Dionysus 04-24-2007 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicaBoo601 (Post 1435495)
Can't I be free to spell how I want to online? I mean goodness I speak proper english all day every day. 14/7/365. I mean people give me crap about my speaking proper english all the time, and now people are giving me crap about the way i spell a couple of words online. What should I do? I can't help it if I speak proper english where I need to and type things a little incorrectly where I don't have to speak proper english. And as far as my Screen Name goes, I'm not ghetto; that's my nickname. My real name is Veronica. Do you see where the Nica comes in? Some people call me Nica and some call me Nica Boo. It depends on who they are. That's where NicaBoo comes from. 601, of course, comes from Hattiesburg's area code.

14/7/365? What is this a code for? What you youngins use when are watching out for the police? Or did you mean 24/7? I knew MANY Veronicas, and never knew any of them who refer to themselves as "Nica". Ronnie, maybe. That "Nica" stuff is like totally weird.

NicaBoo601 04-24-2007 10:33 PM

To Pinkies Up:
 
Well I have no choice but to believe you since you are living in Hattiesburg and you are a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha. So I will leave it at that. I honestly did not mean to cause problems with the screenname and the question. I just wanted to know. I'm so sorry. If i offended you in any way I am so sorry. If you want to, you can give me the information. Oh, If I meet you in the future, hopefully you will not hold any of this against me.

Drolefille 04-24-2007 11:35 PM

I'm still curious how she's going to join chapters of an organization that apparently don't exist...

christiangirl 04-24-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1435500)
I knew MANY Veronicas, and never knew any of them who refer to themselves as "Nica". Ronnie, maybe. That "Nica" stuff is like totally weird.

Well, to be fair, I was called by the first half of my name my whole life until I came to college and everyone here uses the second half as a nickname. Not a single person in 18 years did that until I got here. I'm thinking it's a coastal preference. In fact, I knew many people named Olivia who were called "Liv" and it wasn't until recently that I knew of one who was called "Via." So I can see where she's coming from on that. The names people come with.....All creative expression, right? ;)


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