Iran Detains British Sailors Off Iraq Coast
 

Iran Detains British Sailors Off Iraq Coast

By JIM KRANE
AP
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (March 23) - Iranian naval vessels on Friday seized 15 British sailors and marines in disputed Persian Gulf waters off the coast of Iraq , British and U.S. officials said. The detentions come at a time of high tension between the West and Iran , which accused the British of intruding on its territory.
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles...23082509990001

Yea, way to go Iran.

Piss off somemore people since the Russians pulled their people out from your Nuke build up!

Blow them up and see what comes out of the dust!:mad:

Oh, give a warning for the poor peed ons who live there! Get out, now!!!!:mad:

Hey, if those soldiers were on Iranian waters, sucks to be them. If they weren't on Iranian water, it still sucks to be them.

It's not clear whether they were or not, but unless Iran collectively goes crazy and drags their bodies in the streets, they'll be returned to England safetly and relatively quickly.

*crosses fingers*

I wonder where the ship was at that they came from?

In little rubber boats!

British should have blown the Iranians out of the friggen water!

I want this space, You want this space, well who decides?

To answer both you and another prior poster, IMHO it went down like this:
It was a set up or a well thought out ambush.

The boats were seen, on a regular basis, out on their own with only small arms.

So, they get surrounded by over powering forces and are forced to put down their arms.

Any kind of back up, coming to the area late, would just cause a war to start. And the Brits dying first.
Updated news links:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/....uk/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,261005,00.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...5?feedType=RSS

Who's fault is it, probably both. The British soldiers being an idiot for comming into Iranian water and Iranian government being an idiot for not just escorting them back into Iraqi water.

SAS.

When you care to send the very best.

I wish Iran would just give those people up.

I feel like they are just using this as an excuse to start $*(& with the West.

teehee.

How is this not at this point being interpreted as a hostile act on Iran's part? How are Britain and it's people reacting? This just seems like yet another ploy to make the west look evil to the populations of the middle east. "They crossed into our water?" It's water...escort them back over, jeez.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

^ most recent news

I agree that it's just another ploy to make the west look evil.

Is it normal for countries to have territory in the water? LIke do they have specific coordinates that are "Iranian" and "non Iranian"? (or "US" or "Canadian water", etc)

That just seems odd.

It's very normal - every nation has territorial claims on the waters around them... problems arise though when the exact "borders" of a nation's claim are disputed (much like land-nased borders) and even the closest of allies guard their claims zealously.

For example a bone of contention between Canada and the US is the Canadian claim to the waters in the high arctic: Canada says it falls within the 12 nautical mile limit, the US says it doesn't because it disputes Canadian land claims to islands in the high arctic.

Anyways:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters

Some of the more current news links:
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...6?feedType=RSS
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...ors/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,261144,00.html
And do you recall this thread involving the Swiss a few weeks ago?:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=85149

we should bombed Iran back to the stoneage 30 years ago, did not, and look what happens....again.

That wouldn't even require much bombing. They haven't really come along that much.

Apparently the UK released satellite images showing that their sailors were in fact in Iraqi waters by about 2 miles.

Also Iran said that they'd be releasing the one female sailor out of the 15 held.

I'll look for news articles later, I heard this on the radio

Here are the "lastest" links I found:
Iran puts detained British sailors on television
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...8?feedType=RSS
Britain seeks U.N. support on its sailors in Iran
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2836802920070328
Iran says Britain must accept its view on sailors

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2843806820070328

UK says concerned sailors shown on Iran TV coerced
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2816418720070328

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html
Iranian Official Denies Report of British Servicewoman's Early Release

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262123,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17827481/

Oh those crazy Iranis...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...ors/index.html

I knew Iran was full of (*&@#$

I agre with you.
But we have to understand that this is a "game" being played out at many levels.
Most of this is not even "for" us. It is for what has been called "The Arab Street".
Show people in that part of the world that the big guys can be played with and brought to a stop.
Show the Iran is a player and will do what ever it can get away with. Against the Evil West.
They use the media very well.

For ever pont and counter point it is still BS!

It is time for Britian to get off of their butts along with all free counties and true Islamac Countries to step up and put these demagogs out!

It may finally be time for a world that will kill it self to actually do something.:rolleyes: :mad:

These little piss ant Countries are nobodies, just want to bes!

Question
 

Not to be completely stupid: But how does Iran have any kind of water for a navy worth doing something?

They have the largest coast in the Persian Gulf:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_Gulf_map.png

I realize that... I guess the people over there don't realize how crappy it makes them look though.

THey are calling for the withdrawl of troops from Iraq (I'll be honest - I'm a little ignorant here, why does Iran give a furry squirrel what happens in Iraq? It's a completely different country) which is what those terrorist groups did right before they behead their detainees.

Barbaric much?

And then they get all pissy that the movie '300' portrays them as a bunch of hooligans.

Hmmmmm :rolleyes:

I highly doubt those marines/sailors wrote any of those letters out of their own free will.

I feel that all of this is a pretext to the next war. I'm not buying any of it.

There's also a former FBI agent missing in Iran. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3001577

You do realize Iran is not an Arab country right?

Do you realize how our invading Iraq looks to the rest of the world? Its the same political games all countries play, they weight the pros and cons and decide whats in their best interest.

Why does Iran want troops pulled out? Because there is a long and bitter history between Iran and Iraq (please refer to the Iran - Iraq war if you are not too familiar with it), with no US troops they can control the area better.

Also please check your PMs.

Just because Iran is not Arab does not mean that their "PR" is not directed to the "street".:)

Some thoughts and views on the subject matter from the Op-Ed
Cartoons from around the world:
http://cagle.com/news/BritishSoldiersCaptured/

Yes I do. I'm not a fan of the "war" in Iraq, and a search of my posts in this forum might show that.

I'm not sure why Iran should be "control"ing Iraq... since that's where they want our troops pulled out of? If they want to be all territorial about their water, they should probably take a look at the land borders and realize they shouldn't be trying to control a whole other country. And FWIW, I don't like that we have US troops there either, but we can't just suddenly bring all the troops back and just leave a big mess there. Then other countries would really think we're the Big Bad Westerners because we went in, made a mess, and didn't even stay around to help fix it.

Secret war against Iran: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...ws_exclus.html

Controlling Iraq or at least being able to call them an ally means another country to join them in their "war" against Israel and against the West...

Interesting article about Jundullah, although somehow I dont feel having a leader that was a former Taliban member will help anyone in the long run.

Detainees freed
 

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...ors/index.html

I am really glad that they will be released and not harmed... but was it really neccessary to keep them for 12 days? :confused:

And of course the announcement was made after 2 HOURS of condemning the west. Nice shot!

"They" get pissy because the movie 300 is an awful movie that portrays them as a bunch of black people with piercings that took part in imaginary acts. That would be like me getting Pauly Shore to act in a movie about some cholo Mexicans that attacked France and had all sorts of weird body art. I'm sure you, as a Mexican, wouldn't like that. Oh and history lesson, the US constitution and bill of rights were based on lessons from a Persian King named Cyrus. The same document was used as the first human rights document and a copy is kept in the United Nations. Not some Ricky Martin song or any other taco stained Mexican document. Barbaric...I know, but enjoy the rights that you now have as an American thanks to Persians.

Oh and you know what else? The British are a bunch of pussies that did nothing but surrender, no other boats came to their aid, and in Iranian jails they just made lovely pussy videos. Clearly dropping bombs on Q'om would have eliminated the country's religious problem but instead they came out looking like the French.

-Rudey