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southerngentleman_ka_gb 01-06-2001 04:47 PM

what is the largest house
 
I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE NATIONS LARGEST FRATERNITY HOUSE IS? AND WHAT THE LARGEST SORORITY HOUSE IS?

ZTAngel 01-06-2001 05:22 PM

For fraternities, I'm pretty sure that the top three largest in the nation are Tau Kappa Epsilon, Sigma Alpha Epsilon, and Sigma Chi. As for sororities, the top three are Delta Zeta, Zeta Tau Alpha, and I'm almost positive that it's also Chi Omega.

AlphaChiGirl 01-06-2001 05:37 PM

Do you mean the actual physical house? Or the largest national organization in terms of numbers (or chapters)?

southerngentleman_ka_gb 01-06-2001 06:07 PM

the house size sq feet

ZTAngel 01-06-2001 06:39 PM

Oh....my bad. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/redface.gif

[This message has been edited by ZTAngel (edited January 06, 2001).]

Hootie 01-06-2001 09:14 PM

How are you supposed to know that? That seems like an odd question (no offense)! I had to reread that one too ZTAngel! But to compare to your chart I know Chi Omega and Zeta Tau Alpha are definately two of the three. Not sure of the third, but your guess is as good as mine!

UNFSigmaChi 01-06-2001 11:08 PM

I don't know the square feet but my alpha chapter(sigma chi) house is 4 stories and is REALLY huge. I also know the Sigma Chi house at KSU is really huge as well.

APhi 01-10-2001 03:20 PM

I just happen to know that the largest sorority house was built for Alpha Phi at the University of Oklahoma. Unfortunately they went off campus a couple of years ago. :( I think the house is currently occupied by Phi Mu who recently re-colonized on that campus. I don't know if it was sold or if Alpha Phi still owns it.

The second biggest is the Pi Phi house at CU-Boulder. It's a gorgeous building.

Jae 01-10-2001 07:32 PM

The 2nd largest fraternity structure is/was Sigma Alpha Mu @ Ohio State. HUGE.

PiKappaAlphaMan 01-17-2001 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by southerngentleman_ka_gb:
I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE NATIONS LARGEST FRATERNITY HOUSE IS? AND WHAT THE LARGEST SORORITY HOUSE IS?

The largest Fraternity in Numbers is Pi Kappa Alpha.

The Largest sorority is Chi Omega. As for sq. footage of the houses I really dont know.

lifesaver 01-17-2001 01:36 AM

Not to bust chops, but as long as I was on campus all of the 8 NIC fraternities, thought they were the largest.

EVERYONE thinks they are largest. Why, because their big brother told them they were.

Quote:

Originally posted by PiKappaAlphaMan:

The largest Fraternity in Numbers is Pi Kappa Alpha.

The Largest sorority is Chi Omega. As for sq. footage of the houses I really dont know.


We discussed this a few months back. Se ethe following thread:
http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/...ML/000963.html


The second post is where I placed the most current numbers I had.

[This message has been edited by lifesaver (edited January 17, 2001).]

fsuphi1584 09-19-2006 03:34 PM

Largest Fraternity House
 
The largest fraternity house in the nation is the Phi Delta Theta house at Florida State University. It's a three-building complex worth over $4 million with a three story chapter house and two sets of town homes behind it, each two stories. It houses 66 members with each unit having private beedrooms and bathrooms. Pike at FSU has the largest house under one roof. As far as sororities, the largest house at FSU is DZ.

PenguinTrax 09-19-2006 04:24 PM

Here are pics of the PhiDelt house - it's enormous:

http://www.fsuphidelt.org/index.asp?...house.asp#mar2

macallan25 09-19-2006 07:38 PM

I'm surprised the Phi Delt house at FSU was only 4$ million. I know of other houses that were quite a bit more than that.....but not the same size by any means.

I also heard from somewhre that the Delt house at OU (oklahoma) was the largest one story fraternity house in the country or something like that? I dunno, sounded funny, but it is pretty massive.

Aphigal 09-19-2006 08:07 PM

The Alpha Phi house at the Univ. of Oklahoma was at one time the largest sorority house in America. I am unsure if another group has added onto their house or built a new facility that would overtake it.

In happy news, the house is undergoing a major renovation to house our recently re-colonized chapter. We have over 100 bright,shining new Alpha Phi's, 90 of which will get to live in the house next fall!!

KSUViolet06 09-19-2006 10:10 PM

I always thought the largest fraternity house was Florida State Pike.

sooneralumni 09-19-2006 10:23 PM

The Alpha Phi house at the University of Oklahoma is 29,000 s.f....I am the current HCB President and an architect which is why I know this odd fact. :)

EE-BO 09-19-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1323703)
I'm surprised the Phi Delt house at FSU was only 4$ million. I know of other houses that were quite a bit more than that.....but not the same size by any means.

Yup. At Texas I can think of 2-3 Greek Houses that could potentially be worth $10 million in the current market. And most of any size are easily worth $3 million these days.

GDIfly 09-20-2006 12:59 AM

I know this thread is *supposed to be* about square footage, but I thought I'd just address this:

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 8159)
How are you supposed to know that? That seems like an odd question (no offense)! I had to reread that one too ZTAngel! But to compare to your chart I know Chi Omega and Zeta Tau Alpha are definately two of the three. Not sure of the third, but your guess is as good as mine!

According to Wikipedia (which, yes, has accuracy problems, but this is corroborated by the KKG website) KKG has over 200,000 initiated members. That puts it in second place behind ChiO (over 300,000) and ahead of ZTA ( over 187,000). However, Kappa Delta's website claims over 190,000 initiated members, which would push ZTA out of the top three-especially since I couldn't find any information at their website.

macallan25 09-20-2006 01:01 AM

I hate GDI's.

irishpipes 09-20-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sooneralumni (Post 1323801)
The Alpha Phi house at the University of Oklahoma is 29,000 s.f....I am the current HCB President and an architect which is why I know this odd fact. :)


Then I would highly doubt that it is the largest. AOII is building a 30,000 square foot house at Arkansas, and I haven't heard anything about it being the "new" largest sorority house. At OU, the Alpha Phi house doesn't even appear to be the largest. Is it really larger than the DG house there? I know that looks an be deceiving, but a couple of houses there look larger than the Alpha Phi house.

OleMissGlitter 09-20-2006 09:49 AM

I had always heard the Sig Ep house at Mississippi State University in Starkville, MS was one of the largest fraternity houses in Mississippi.

Also, the Phi Delta house at FSU is huge! WOW! That makes the houses at Ole Miss look like little Barbie houses!

Coramoor 09-20-2006 02:15 PM

I'm not sure what the fetish is with having the largest Fraternity/Sorority house is. It can be huge, but still look really cheap and probably not have a long lige. A stronger consideration should be the nicest looking/designed fraternity/sorority house.

PeppyGPhiB 09-20-2006 02:29 PM

I'm getting a kick out of reading this thread, because my school didn't even have greek houses. :o

Natalie0628 09-20-2006 02:42 PM

I'd rather have a pretty, old, gorgeous house than something that looks like a building on a campus. That one house that was linked to looks like a Chem lab building at my school.

PeppyGPhiB 09-20-2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Natalie0628 (Post 1324188)
I'd rather have a pretty, old, gorgeous house than something that looks like a building on a campus. That one house that was linked to looks like a Chem lab building at my school.

I completely agree.

Coramoor 09-20-2006 03:18 PM

Definitly. Some look too sterile or business like, no personality.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalie0628 (Post 1324188)
I'd rather have a pretty, old, gorgeous house than something that looks like a building on a campus. That one house that was linked to looks like a Chem lab building at my school.


Tom Earp 09-20-2006 04:35 PM

Two of the Biggest LXA Houses I have seen and been in is Arkansas and UnOk.

Agree, Like the Old South Mansions or English Tudor styles myself!:)

BamaDad DZ 09-20-2006 04:51 PM

I just visited my daughter's DZ house at Bama this past weekend. Lovely old house, but the most important ingredients were the wonderful young ladies, the fantastic house mom, and some very incredible cooks....

NutBrnHair 09-20-2006 05:30 PM

"Home is not where you live but where they understand you."
-Christian Morgenstern


BamaDad DZ, I agree with you. (I can still taste the wonderful yeast rolls I enjoyed one evening at the Bama Chi Omega house!)

irishpipes 09-20-2006 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 1324167)
I'm not sure what the fetish is with having the largest Fraternity/Sorority house is. It can be huge, but still look really cheap and probably not have a long lige. A stronger consideration should be the nicest looking/designed fraternity/sorority house.

Yep.

Firehouse 09-20-2006 09:40 PM

Pike vs. Phi Delt at Florida State
 
Ha. I see an FSUPhi beat me to it. We have a long standing good-natured rivalry, and both of us just built new houses. The reason the cost for houses of this size may seem low (Pike cost $4.5 million; Phi Delt $4 million ++) is because there was little or no land costs for the fraternities, and the University built the infrastructure and provided 100 parking places per house. The chapters had to pay very litte of the cost; we could put all our money into bricks & mortar.

Pike, Phi Delt and Lambda Chi just finished building new houses. Sig Ep and ATO will break ground soon. All five will be more or less the same size. Phi Delt built three unconnected buildings. If they house 66 men then they have the largest house capacity. Website: http://www.fsuphidelt.org/index.asp LXA built two unconnected houses. Website: http://www.lxafsu.com/
Pike built one enormous 40,000 square foot house all under one roof. It houses 60 men. Website: http://www.fsupikes.com/
the Pike house is the largest fraternity house in the nation under one roof. It's possible that Phi Delt has the largest fraternity house in the nation under three roofs.
Rush was great this fall. All three of us pledged between 45-60 men each.

Couple of other points brought up previously in this thread:
1. About Pike being the largest fraternity in the nation...
It's been published before, but: SAE has more total initiates; Sig Ep has the most undergraduates in a given year; TKE has the most chapters; Phi Kappa Psi has the alrgest endowment; Pike has the largest average chapter size among all fraternities, and has had that for twenty years or more.
All of this information is inconsequential because it discounts the strength of great fraternities like, well, Phi Delt, Beta Theta Pi, Sigma Chi and many others.

2. Sig Ep house at Mississippi State is the largest fraternity house in mississippi. Since 1960 the Pikes house there had that distinction. When the Sig Eps built their new house the deliberately built it one square foot larger.

Elephant Walk 09-20-2006 09:52 PM

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Two of the Biggest LXA Houses I have seen and been in is Arkansas and UnOk.
That's the biggest you've seen?

Their's is certainly nice, I like it alot, but it's not all that big.

At Arkansas, our best architecture is our fraternity and sorority houses and Ole Main. Otherwise, the rest of the buildings are aesthetic (sp?) nightmares. You should see the Sigma Chi or Kappa Sig houses here, they are absolutely huge and beautiful.

macallan25 09-20-2006 10:15 PM

i couldn't really tell what Pike looked like.......but I don't like LXA or Phi Delt at all.......Phi Delt looks like a school/office building...and LXA looks like an apartment complex. There is no character or uniqueness to them at all. They remind me of a spec home....only massive in size.

Firehouse 09-20-2006 10:33 PM

I'm sorry the photos don't do the houses justice. The Phi Delt house is extremey impressive. The LXA house design is a little more subdued but very well laid-out and the members love it. The Pike house is, a-hem, fabulous.
True, none of the houses have the character of old southern homes, but all the houses here are bult to compete with the huge apartment rental market. With FSU, FAMU and the junior college, Tallahassee is home to about 70,000 college students.

kstar 09-20-2006 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 1323935)
Then I would highly doubt that it is the largest. AOII is building a 30,000 square foot house at Arkansas, and I haven't heard anything about it being the "new" largest sorority house. At OU, the Alpha Phi house doesn't even appear to be the largest. Is it really larger than the DG house there? I know that looks an be deceiving, but a couple of houses there look larger than the Alpha Phi house.

The old Phi Mu/Alpha Phi house at OU is actually over 30,000 sq. ft. and it is twice the size of the DG house at OU (which isn't even in the top 5 houses in terms of size.) It is deceptively large, 3 stories, and can house over 100 women. All in BEDROOMS- no sleeping porches.

Phi Mu has now bought the old ZTA house, from when they left. The Alpha Phi house stands empty, but there was a rumor that they would be coming back to OU since Zeta left.

irishpipes 09-21-2006 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1324556)
The old Phi Mu/Alpha Phi house at OU is actually over 30,000 sq. ft. and it is twice the size of the DG house at OU (which isn't even in the top 5 houses in terms of size.) It is deceptively large, 3 stories, and can house over 100 women. All in BEDROOMS- no sleeping porches.

Phi Mu has now bought the old ZTA house, from when they left. The Alpha Phi house stands empty, but there was a rumor that they would be coming back to OU since Zeta left.

The Alpha Phi on this thread posted that the OU Alpha Phi house is 29,000 square feet. Maybe there have been additions. Who knows. Twice the size of DG? What is the size of the DG house? I just used DG as an example because it is another fairly new house at OU, and it appears very large, although I have no idea what the square footage is.

Also, Alpha Phi has recolonized at OU this Fall. I understand they accepted around 100 women, are renovating the house, and will be moving back in for Fall 2007.

kstar 09-21-2006 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 1324666)
The Alpha Phi on this thread posted that the OU Alpha Phi house is 29,000 square feet. Maybe there have been additions. Who knows. Twice the size of DG? What is the size of the DG house? I just used DG as an example because it is another fairly new house at OU, and it appears very large, although I have no idea what the square footage is.

Also, Alpha Phi has recolonized at OU this Fall. I understand they accepted around 100 women, are renovating the house, and will be moving back in for Fall 2007.

I don't know the exact size of the DG house, but the footprint is about half the size of the A Phi house. I'm pretty sure that the DG house is smaller than Theta and even the Alpha Gam house. I know that DG house uses sleeping porches to maximize the number of girls it can house.

Being a grad student, I haven't a clue about the current climate in south greek, aside from the kid that got hit because there are no sidewalks.

PeppyGPhiB 09-21-2006 01:57 PM

Just to give the west coast some love, I direct you to the U-Dub Chi Omega house, which claims to be "the second largest fraternal structure west of the Mississippi"

http://students.washington.edu/chiomega/ourhouse.html

And, it even looks pretty from the outside (in my opinion) :)

OleMissGlitter 09-21-2006 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1324885)
Just to give the west coast some love, I direct you to the U-Dub Chi Omega house, which claims to be "the second largest fraternal structure west of the Mississippi"

http://students.washington.edu/chiomega/ourhouse.html

And, it even looks pretty from the outside (in my opinion) :)

That house is amazing! :D


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