Tri-Sigma Sorority
 

Hi,

What is the brotherhood fraterity that is sisters with Sigma Sigma Sigma?
Who is brother and sister?

Zeta Zeta Zeta....right? Constitutionally bound?


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No silly!

It's Lambda Lambda Lambda! Duh!:rolleyes:

I thought it may be Sigma Phi Epsilon fraterity

NO NPC SORORITY HAS AN OFFICIAL "BROTHER/SISTER" RELATIONSHIP WITH A FRATERNITY ON AN INTER/NATIONAL LEVEL. Sororities may have relationships on a campus by campus level, but no NPCs have an official relationship with a fraternity. Having one may jeopardize the single-sex status (according to what I've read).

The only official relationship I know of is Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc. and Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. Members of the NPHC, they share a constitutional bond.

No, it's not. There's no brother fraternity. No NPC sorority has a "brother" fraternity.

AW OTW beat me to it, but she does do a better job.

And they won't let you forget it. :rolleyes:

Some of us don't need a piece of paper to tell us who our siblings are.

A Kappa Sigma helped write Tri-Sigma's ritual--that might be what the OP is asking about.

I know there is no - in Tri Delta...is it the same for Tri Sigma?

Just curious.

Yes, the dash is actually one of my pet peeves. :)

In most colleges that have both Sigma Sigma Sigma and Sigma Phi Epsilon..are they considered the ones that hang out with each other on campus?

Why don't you go ask those chapters? :)

Copied from the Sigma Sigma Sigma website:

Each initiated member receives the latest edition of Tri Sigma's story, The Years Remembered of Sigma Sigma Sigma; The Path from Farmville, which chronicles the beginning of each collegiate chapter as well as the evolution of our National Organization.

I thought this was super cool! My chapter has a bound copy of The Quarterly, (Alpha Gam's magazine) that contains articles on different chapters being colonized but I would love to have something like Tri-Sigma. I felt old that I knew some of the Gamma Tau founders, lol.

Maybe. It depends on the chapters themselves. Why do you want to know?

At my college its the Sigmas and Sig Eps.at another college near us its the same thing.. sometimes I end up in conversations with my sisters or other fraterity guys that say that nationally thats what it is..but I guess it can't be if its not nationally looked at.

By no means am I an expert about this situation (as I am not a member of Tri Sigma OR Sigma Phi Epsilon) -

As others have said, there is no official brother & sister fraternity. The fraternity (or sorority) that you "connect with", for lack of a better term, can change from campus to campus, or even from year to year - the fraternity that you do ALL your socials with as you're in the chapter may become the "chapter no one is seen with" by the time you graduate.

And yes, I've seen this happen. :p

NO!!!

There is NO national bond between any NPC and NIC group. Please inform everyone who tells you differently that they are WRONG.

I don't know if my brother's university has Tri Sigma or not, but their Sig Ep chapter seems to do things with the KKG and AOPi chapters there.

I'm feeling this quote right now!

Me too, lol. I think I ranted about it awhile ago on here.

While in a sense, you may be right, this is not the case across the board. Unofficially, several groups with historical bonds refer to each other as "brother or sister" organizations. While this doesn't occur at the national level (most likely) and is nowhere in anyone's Constitution, it happens.

For example, Sigma Nus had a hand in getting Alpha Xi Delta started at Lombard College. Unofficially, many Alpha Xi's will refer to Sigma Nu as their "brother fraternity." Or something that effect. I'm pretty sure there's even something along those lines in the Alpha Xi pledge manual (or some historical document), but I could be wrong.

While in the sense that we don't have joint meetings and rituals and articles of governance, you're right, there's no national bond. On a historical level, I think you'd be wrong, however. Such a bond exists between several NPC/NIC groups.

Are Sigma Lambda Beta and Sigma Lambda Gamma constitutionally bound?

Maybe you should check up on NPC rules before you go acting like you know what you're talking about.

It doesn't matter who says what. There are no brother/sister official OR unofficial GLOs. Perhaps actually listening to the other NPC sisters, or maybe the actual Tri Sigma sister, you will notice you are wrong... if that is possible.

Perhaps it is you who doesn't know what you're talking about? NPC rules have nothing to do with this really. Historical bonds exist outside the rules and are not affected by them. That members refer to another group as a "brother" organization occurs. Everyone is aware of the historical connection. In that respect your rules are completely irrelevant.

Let me rephrase...there is no CONSTITUTIONAL bond. (I would have said that, but it was early in the morning & the OP didn't seem to be getting it)

There is a historical bond between ASA & Tri Delta (no dash). That doesn't mean we ever call them our "sister" organization. There is a historical bond between SAE & Alpha Phi Omega. That doesn't mean they call each other "brothers."

So you're saying they're not sister/sister, brother/sister or brother/brother? How about mom/daughter, father/daughter or father/son since one of the organizations is older?

Some do, some don't.

No, Kevin is right. Regardless of whether its official or not, it happens. A quick Google of "Alpha Xi Delta," "Sigma Nu" and "brother fraternity" turned up 44 hits along the lines of the following:

From the Zeta Theta chapter of Alpha Xi Delta: With the help of the men of the Sigma Nu Fraternity, the Alpha Xi Delta’s brother fraternity, they were able to organize their ideas and create a successful organization that affects women’s lives every day.

From the Beta Pi chapter of Alpha Xi Delta: The fraternity flower is the Killarney Rose, which characteristics include a light pink color, thornless, with a large bloom. It was chosen by our Founders to complement the white rose of Sigma Nu, our brother fraternity.

From the Atlanta Cobb-Cherokee Alumnae Association of Alpha Xi Delta: TBD: Social - March Madness Sigma Nu Social - Join us with our brother fraternity in Atlanta.

Google even took me to this post and this post here at GC.

So while there is no official relationship (and Kevin never said there was), he is right that "it happens" that some Alpha Xi Delta members refer to Sigma Nu as their "brother fraternity."

If it's not on the national websites, it's not official.

See, this is what this whole thread is hinging on.

The bond that Kevin speaks of is regional, at best. People choose to acknowledge it, others don't. A historical connection is there, but a national bond IS NOT.

The NPC posters in this thread are not wrong.

Kevin is not wrong, he's just answering a different question.

Last I checked, "unofficially," "regardless of whether it's official" and "while there is no official relationship" all acknowledge that it's not official.

Regional maybe, or historical/informal/sentimental, unofficially acknowledged by some but not by all.

This fascinates me.

Interestingly, it's mentioned on the ASA national website, but not on Tri Delta's.

I think it's because it really had no effect on Tri Delta. SAE's national site doesn't mention APO either.

I'm reasonably certain that Alpha Xi Delta new member materials discuss this aspect of the common history. While they do disclaim the "brother" reference, when we came to campus, the brand new Alpha Xi chapter there (chartered in '99, the year we opened our colony) already knew to call us their "brother" organization.

In fact, I recall being scolded a few times for not teaching my pledges about this historical linkage.

It is discussed here, at the Alpha Xi Delta website. There is certainly no reference to Sigma Nu being Alpha Xi Delta's "brother fraternity," but the early associations with Sigma Nu are discussed, including the statement that for Alpha Xi Delta's flower, the Founders "chose the pink rose as a complement to the white rose of Sigma Nu."

Due to the fact that I've seen plenty of chapters from my own GLO say the wrong things on their chapter websites, I would NEVER take anything as correct unless it was quoted from the IH website.

And just because it does happen, doesn't mean it's right.

Ditto.
Neil Armstrong's first wife is AXO, but her pin is not on the moon- but according to several chapter websites it is.

Just like how Betty Crocker is a DZ (amongst other affiliations) and how Carly Simon and Madonna are AGDs.

Back to the original subject -- everyone knows that one of the Alpha Gam Founders helped design the TKE Coat-of-Arms, but that doesn't necessarily make the TKEs our brother fraternity. In fact, Emily Helen Butterfield has a historical connection with SEVERAL fraternities and sororities because she helped design their Coat of Arms as well...she was an expert on Heraldry.

Even though the Alpha Gam official website doesn't list her contributions to Greek Life by detail, I know that several other HQ sites do, TKE being one of them, as you can see from the link above.

So yes, historical connections are wonderful, but that =/= brother fraternities/sister sororities.