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smiley21 03-10-2007 08:46 AM

Disney's First Black Princess
 
This is very cool, but a long time coming. The movie is coming out in 2009. I wonder who is going to be the voices. I hope it gets the same reception as other Disney animated movies. It is going to be traditional animation, so it is going to be interesting to see how it is received.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2...340194000.html

tld221 03-10-2007 10:32 AM

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From Wikipedia, the source of all credibility :rolleyes:
On December 1, 2006, a detailed casting call was announced for the film at the Manhattan Theatre Source forum. The casting call states the film as being an American fairy tale musical set in New Orleans during the 1920s Jazz Age, and provides a detailed list of the film's major characters, including the leading character, Maddy, who will be the first African American Disney princess. It was reported that Alicia Keys, Jennifer Hudson, and Anika Noni Rose are all being considered for the title role.
will J-Hud's 15 minutes of fame be extended?

i think they could all be in the movie, there are enough roles to go around. im having a hard time seeing who would play what...
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again, from wikipedia:
* Maddy - A 19-year-old chambermaid.
* Charlotte La Bouff - A 18-year-old spoiled, southern Debutante and Diva.
* Dr. Duvalier - An African American Voodoo magician/fortune teller. The villain of the movie.
* Mama Odie - An elderly, 200-year-old Voodoo priestess/fairy god-mother.
* Ray - A lovesick Cajun firefly.
* Louis - A Jazz singer alligator.
* Prince Harry - A gregarious, fun-loving European Prince, in his early twenties.
* Lawrence - Prince Harry's pompous valet.
* Big Daddy La Bouff - Wealthy, Southern plantation landowner and father of Charlotte La Bouff.
* Eudora - Maddy's mother. In her fifties. Used to be Charlotte's nurse maid.
* George - The La Bouff family's cook.
* Arila - Maddy's sister.

DeltaBetaBaby 03-10-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1411085)
will J-Hud's 15 minutes of fame be extended?

Hmmm...maybe i need to put her on my fafarazzi team.

LeslieAGD 03-10-2007 11:03 AM

I heard this on the radio and I think it's great...but I hate Jennifer Hudson so if she's voicing it, I won't see it.

texas*princess 03-10-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeslieAGD (Post 1411091)
I heard this on the radio and I think it's great...but I hate Jennifer Hudson so if she's voicing it, I won't see it.

I'm not a fan either....

I am glad that a "real" animated movie is coming out.... esp. since it's been awhile since Disney last released one. I'd be interested to see how it turns out, because it seems all of the other Disney "princesses" were based on fairy tales (Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Little Mermaid, Jasmine, Tinkerbell...) and this storyline isn't an old fairytale per se (at least not to my knowledge.. it might be a folk tale in other parts of the country)

It seems like this might be another version of Cinderella maybe? The chambermaid has a fairy godmother and she ends up marrying the prince.... the debutante chick throws a fit because she wanted to marry the prince...maybe the voodoo lady turned the chambermaid into a frog? and the prince kisses the frog?

Drolefille 03-10-2007 12:27 PM

I think it sounds awesome. I intend to drag someone to see it with me :p

DSTKellie 03-10-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeslieAGD (Post 1411091)
I heard this on the radio and I think it's great...but I hate Jennifer Hudson so if she's voicing it, I won't see it.

Really?...Why so? I mean its cool that you are untitled to your opinion but I just never heard of anyone that hated J.Hudson. :)
Not because she great or anything but she is really not a controversy icon.

aopirose 03-10-2007 03:13 PM

Sounds good to me.

It could be based on the Russian fairytale which also has Greek and Italian versions or a variation of Grimm’s “The Frog Prince”.

Russian “The Frog Princess”
http://www.lacquerbox.com/frogprincess-long.htm

Brothers Grimm “The Frog Prince”
http://www.authorama.com/grimms-fairy-tales-12.html

Rudey 03-10-2007 06:16 PM

Jennifer Hudson weighs too much for me. How about Beyonce (post weight-loss)?

-Rudey

ΑΓΔSquirrel10 03-10-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1411221)
Jennifer Hudson weighs too much for me. How about Beyonce (post weight-loss)?

-Rudey

What's wrong with Jennifer Hudson weighing too much? I think it is awesome that there is finally a girl with curves in the spotlight! If I see another picture of an anorexic celeb, I'm going to scream!

BabyPiNK_FL 03-10-2007 11:02 PM

This movie really doesn't sound very princessy to me. And they put it in New Orleans, it would mean a lot more to me had they done it in Africa because they do have princesses there.

But, I'll take what I can get...I really want to see someone who looks like me be a Disney princess! (As long as Beyonce is in no way shape or form involved with the project and no one in the movie is referred to as Mammy or named Jemima! Missus, however is acceptable!)

Rudey 03-10-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ???Squirrel10 (Post 1411251)
What's wrong with Jennifer Hudson weighing too much?

Very rarely does someone leave me with so much to say that I'm dumbfounded. I feel like Jennifer Hudson at an Old Country Buffet. Now I must go out and convince some non-panty wearing anorexic MAW to come see my great view.

-Rudey

tld221 03-11-2007 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1411221)
Jennifer Hudson weighs too much for me. How about Beyonce (post weight-loss)?

-Rudey

J-Hud isnt really "fat," she's just really booby. specially since she's always got them out and about

i mean she's no stick, but if you get rid of the boobs, or reduce them a bit, she may not seem as huge.

adpi*violet 03-11-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1411291)
This movie really doesn't sound very princessy to me. And they put it in New Orleans, it would mean a lot more to me had they done it in Africa because they do have princesses there.

I agree! I may not be black, but for years I've been thinking that Disney should do an animated film set in Africa, with PEOPLE and a proper African princess. Not lions, warthogs and meerkats (though Lion King was good).

texas*princess 03-11-2007 01:50 PM

random info on the Disney Princess line
 
From Answers.com

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Character list
Snow White (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs)
Cinderella (Cinderella)
Princess Aurora (Sleeping Beauty)
Princess Ariel (The Little Mermaid)
Belle (Beauty and the Beast)
Princess Jasmine (Aladdin)
Pocahontas (Pocahontas)
Mulan (Mulan)
On the Princess Collection 2 CD songs by Meg (Hercules), Maid Marian (Robin Hood) and Nala (The Lion King) are included as well.

...


One major criticism of the Disney Princess line is that Mulan is not a princess as she is neither being born or having married into royalty. Mulan does not become a princess at any point since her love interest is not a member of royalty. Similarly, most "Disney Princess" material relating to Belle depicts her world as it was before the Beast became human and, thus, before she was, presumably, married to him.

Similarly, Princess Eilonwy (The Black Cauldron) and Princess Kida (Atlantis: The Lost Empire) are excluded from the line, despite both being real princesses. The main reason for this is the fact that both Atlantis: The Lost Empire and The Black Cauldron were critical failures and therefore not popular to both consumers' and Disney's eyes. Princess Tiger Lily (Peter Pan) is also excluded, possibly because she provides competition for Wendy. Lastly, Megara (Meg), the wife of Hercules, is not included. Though not portrayed as one in Disney’s Hercules, in mythology Megara is the princess of Thebes. In any case she is the wife of a son of King Zeus, which would seem equal to the status of a princess.

tld221 03-11-2007 04:11 PM

so then Pocahontas wasnt a princess either - she got with the John Smith guy who was trying to take things over, right?

(i was like 9 when this movie came out so the details are fuzzy)

texas*princess 03-11-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1411533)
so then Pocahontas wasnt a princess either - she got with the John Smith guy who was trying to take things over, right?

(i was like 9 when this movie came out so the details are fuzzy)

I think she was the princess of her tribe? but i don't remember them getting married? i haven't seen it since it first came out, so the details are fuzzy on my side too

Drolefille 03-11-2007 04:38 PM

She married John Rolfe in real life and I think maybe kinda sorta the second Pocahontas movie. Her father was chief of the tribe thus making her an "Indian princess" to the extent such things existed.

AXO Alum 03-11-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1411111)
....all of the other Disney "princesses" were based on fairy tales (Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Little Mermaid, Jasmine, Tinkerbell...)

um hmmmm.... t*p... we need to have a chat if you think Tink was a princess - I am so disappointed :(

http://www.amazon.com/Tinker-Princes.../dp/B000AXWU5A

:p ;)

christiangirl 03-14-2007 11:43 PM

Does anyone else have a problem with the first black Disney princess being a "chambermaid?"

sdsuchelle 03-15-2007 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1413317)
Does anyone else have a problem with the first black Disney princess being a "chambermaid?"

I also thought that was kind of strange...

Also, just a wild guess, but is the "debutante" girl going to be white? The Prince is described as European, and the villain is African-American and a "voodoo" doctor. Talk about stereotypes.

It's kind of ridiculous that it took this long for Disney to have a black princess, though.

Taualumna 03-15-2007 07:22 AM

Maddy is Disney's first ANIMATED black princess. Elton John's Aida was produced by Disney (at least at one point), and Aida is a Nubian princess.

This storyline actually sounds an eensy weensy like Aida, IMHO...just replace the debutante with Amneris (princess and future pharoah) and the European prince with Radames (Amneris' fiance).

ETA: Disney's "Princess" collection actually includes non-royalty. Right now, I can only think of Mulan, but there might be another one.

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1413384)
ETA: Disney's "Princess" collection actually includes non-royalty. Right now, I can only think of Mulan, but there might be another one.

Tinkerbell is in the princess collection, and sometimes Alice from Alice in Wonderland, and Maid Marian from Robin Hood.

Drolefille 03-15-2007 09:04 AM

Maid Marian was like King Richard's nephew though wasn't she? She's totally almost sorta kinda a princess.

As for the first black princess being a chambermaid, most of Disney's Princesses don't start their stories out being royalty. Cinderella being the primary example. Snow White and Sleeping Beauty spend more time in cottages than castles. Belle was just a silly girl who reads. And as mentioned, Tink and Mulan were never royalty. Jasmine and Ariel are really the only "Princesses" (Well and Nala but as she's a non-anthropomorphic animal princess she doesn't count :()

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1413408)
Maid Marian was like King Richard's nephew though wasn't she? She's totally almost sorta kinda a princess.

As for the first black princess being a chambermaid, most of Disney's Princesses don't start their stories out being royalty. Cinderella being the primary example. Snow White and Sleeping Beauty spend more time in cottages than castles. Belle was just a silly girl who reads. And as mentioned, Tink and Mulan were never royalty. Jasmine and Ariel are really the only "Princesses" (Well and Nala but as she's a non-anthropomorphic animal princess she doesn't count :()

I think she would be his NIECE...but yeah, still a sort-of royal.

Nala wasn't a princess...that would make her Simba's sister, and that's just ewww...(even for lions).

MysticCat 03-15-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413414)
I think she would be his NIECE...but yeah, still a sort-of royal.

I don't remember any version of Robin Hood where Marion is Richard's niece. And in the Disney version, Marion is a vixen, while King Richard the Lionheart and his brother John are, appropriately, lions. So, unless there's some cross-species adoption going on . . . .

I'm ready for my daughter to grow out of Disney princesses, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

Drolefille 03-15-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413414)
I think she would be his NIECE...but yeah, still a sort-of royal.

Nala wasn't a princess...that would make her Simba's sister, and that's just ewww...(even for lions).

Wow... yeah neice. *doh* Mysticcat, isn't she the neice in Prince of Theives? I swear that's why Nottingham wanted to marry her. (Not saying that's any sort of official rendition or anything)

Who else would be Nala's father? Mufasa and Scar were the only males. Clearly Scar wasn't getting any. Simba was just unusual in that he didn't go to another pride for a mate. Nala would have had to be a good deal older than Simba NOT to be related to him and since they're cubs together...

Yes... Lion King promotes incest among our children. And THEN Lion King 2 has Kiara and Kovu. Kovu is the son of one of the lionesses who left with Scar (but not actually Scar's son) Thus he must also be Mufasa's son and is marrying his neice.

/creeped you out yet?

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1413427)
I don't remember any version of Robin Hood where Marion is Richard's niece. And in the Disney version, Marion is a vixen, while King Richard the Lionheart and his brother John are, appropriately, lions. So, unless there's some cross-species adoption going on . . . .

According to this site....
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The main difference in this Disney feature is that the characters are all depicted as different forest animals. Both Robin Hood and Maid Marian are foxes, Little John is a bear, Prince John and King Richard are lions, and Friar Tuck is a large badger. Other animals rounding up the cast include snakes, rabbits, chickens, roosters, turtles, alligators, vultures, elephants, rhinos, dogs, and wolves. While most families remain within the same species (such as the rabbit family), not all of the relationships make sense. For example, Maid Marian, a vixen, is the King Richard’s, a lion’s, niece. All of the animals live in the city of Nottingham where Prince John is passing by on a tour of the countryside. Robin Hood, in turn, hides out in Sherwood Forest with his best friend Little John and his band of merry men. Most of the time they are trying to find new ways to steal from the nobility, or running away from the law, but when Prince John comes to town, bringing Maid Marian, things change.

Plus, remember the line "King Richard is going to have an outlaw for an in-law"....

Drolefille 03-15-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413435)
According to this site....



Plus, remember the line "King Richard is going to have an outlaw for an in-law"....

I knew I was remembering right :D

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1413433)
Yes... Lion King promotes incest among our children. And THEN Lion King 2 has Kiara and Kovu. Kovu is the son of one of the lionesses who left with Scar (but not actually Scar's son) Thus he must also be Mufasa's son and is marrying his neice.

Disney's version of Antigone?

MysticCat 03-15-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413435)
Plus, remember the line "King Richard is going to have an outlaw for an in-law"....

Not being a big fan of how Disney screws up good stories, I try not to remember much of anything about that movie. ;)

But I do stand corrected.

Drolefille 03-15-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413437)
Disney's version of Antigone?

Well since Lion King is clearly Hamlet sure why not :p

MysticCat how can you not like that movie!
Ooh de lally Ooh de lally golly what a day....

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1413440)
Well since Lion King is clearly Hamlet sure why not :p

MysticCat how can you not like that movie!
Ooh de lally Ooh de lally golly what a day....

Do NOT get that song stuck in my head or I will fly back to IL and hurt you.:p

MysticCat 03-15-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413437)
Disney's version of Antigone?

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1413440)
Well since Lion King is clearly Hamlet sure why not :p

But Antigone or Hamlet with a happy ending, of course.

(My daughter loves Ariel. I still haven't had the heart to read her the real story.)

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MysticCat how can you not like that movie!
Ooh de lally Ooh de lally golly what a day....
Just a philistine, I suppose. Did I mention that I hate Mickey Mouse and all his friends, too?

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1413443)
(My daughter loves Ariel. I still haven't had the heart to read her the real story.)

That movie came out when I was 7, and I remember making my grandpa watch that movie with me EVERY DAY for about 4 months.

Do you feel better?

Drolefille 03-15-2007 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1413442)
Do NOT get that song stuck in my head or I will fly back to IL and hurt you.:p

Ahem:
Robin Hood and Little John walking through the forest
Laughin' back and forth at what the other 'un has to say
Reminiscing this and that and having such a good time
Ooh de lally ooh de lally golly what a day

(Bring it ;))
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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1413443)
But Antigone or Hamlet with a happy ending, of course.

(My daughter loves Ariel. I still haven't had the heart to read her the real story.)

Just a philistine, I suppose. Did I mention that I hate Mickey Mouse and all his friends, too?

True, but it's not like Disney's the first to clean up fairy tales. Even the Grimms didn't always publish the most gruesome versions. I'm not a big Mickey fan either, but their movies are almost always good. (I did prefer Lion King, Mulan and even Aladdin to Mermaid, Snow White, etc.) I'm looking forward to this one as Disney's strength still lies in their animated classics, PotC aside.

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1413445)
I'm looking forward to this one as Disney's strength still lies in their animated classics, PotC aside.

PotC??? What is that?

Do you remember when Disney would come out with ONE movie a year or so, and then after it left the theatre, it'd be another year before it came out on video? Those were the glory days.

Now they churn them out like sitcom episodes. Blech.

aopirose 03-15-2007 10:13 AM

Pirates of the Carribean

Drolefille 03-15-2007 10:16 AM

I agree and they've had some clunkers. Atlantis was boring. I liked Treasure Planet though no one else did. And Brother Bear was neat but... eh I feel like they let Pixar carry them for a while.

and yes, PotC=Pirates of the *JohnnyDeppisHOT* Caribbean

AlphaFrog 03-15-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 1413455)
Pirates of the Carribean

Thanks. My brain was still on Animation.

And I think I'd throw Narnia series in there too...I'm sure they'll end up doing the other six. (Sequels seem to be Disney's #1 right now anyway)


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