this girls parents should be shot.....
 

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How do you let your 6 year old child weigh 400 pounds??????

yeah, the HOW of that is completely baffling me. That is child abuse.

That's the little girl I posted about in that childhood weight surgery thread on here.

oh...sorry. i didnt know there was another thread already....

The other thread wasn't about her. She was just an aside. Your thread is fine. :)

yeah that is horrible that is child abuse

If I'm not mistaken, I believe I saw this little girl on Maury not too long ago. She looks so familiar to me. But yes, the parents should be shot. That's just ridiculous. 400 lbs at that age? Adults shouldn't even weigh that much.:(

Seriously, WTF is wrong with this kids parents?

Here's the video:

http://www.flicklife.com/view_video....fbe55ebb2b64ba

Before blaming the parents, I wonder if she has a medical condition such as Prader Willi Syndrome?

What were her parents feeding her - buckets of lard and bags of sugar??

It doesn't seem so. When I read the show summaries they haven't said anything about thats.

They just actually hospitalized the girl and didn't say anything about that. And its an obvious thing to test for.

I think its just an extreme example of really bad parenting.

Without any other news article to give details, there's no mention of any sort of condition causing her weight problems and no indication that the parents, upon realizing that such a condition existed, did jack crap about it.

Gee Mommy and Daddy, ever think that it shouldn't take a hospital stay (for breathing difficulty!) to tell you your daughter needed help? Or was the fact that she was rolling because she was too fat to walk too subtle for you.

She could have an aleptinemia, because Prader Willi's often hoard food anywhere they can get it... Whereas, I imagine it would be tough for her to get around being 400 lbs, approximately 7-12 years old and rolling around. Maybe she just rolled fast...

I have a disturbing mental image of a 400lb roller chasing down someone holding the box of cookies or something.

I can't believe these parents let it get so bad and that no one stepped in before the child got to 400lbs. These parents should not be allowed to have children. I just can't imagine letting this happen if I had a child.

I was starting to wonder whether the parents were doing it for attention.

I understand that the child was 200 pounds at 5 years old, but then after all that media attention the parents fed the child so much food it put another 200 pounds on in 2 years.

Thats like deliberate over feeding.

Maybe the mother, consciously or unconsciouly, enjoyed the notoriety of being "someone." Media attention can be seductive. And everyone in America seems to want their 15 seconds.

Aren't there mothers that deblierately make their kids sick for attention?

How can someone get that heavy just by a disease alone, without a tumor being involved? I mean, some major over-eating has to be going on. I think the only reason why the parents still have custody of this girl is the fact that this is a rare case. I though protective services take kids away from parents in circumstances that can be hazardous to them. They are slowly killing this kid.

With Prader Willi Syndrome, the child has a reduced need for calories. The really cruel part of the disease is not only do fewer calories make them fat, but they also have a flaw in the hypothalamus which make them constantly hungry. They never feel full. They have a continuous need to eat.

No appetite suppresant has been found effective in this disease. They have to be kept on an extremely low calorie diet just to stay at a normal weight.. and parents have sometimes resorted to having to lock the cabinets and refrigerators.

The girl can't get to the cupboards... she couldn't walk. There's no excuse.

Did you not read the part of how people with this disease must be kept on an extremely low calorie diet just to stay at a normal weight? And did you not read the part about how people with this disease can not turn off the hunger pains?

We do not know if this is what this child has, but if it is.. the blame shouldn't go to the parents.

Munchausen is what you're thinking of.

The girl has been in the hospital Blueangel, and has responded to a forced diet. We would have ehard if she had this disease.

If we on Greekchat can think of it, the doctors are not going to overlook it.

For those not familiar with PWS.


http://www.thearc.org/faqs/pwsynd.html

Thank you. :)

She 5 years old. She cant exactly roll in the kitchen and make herself an omlette and a few dozen hot pockets whenever she pleases. Her parents are the ones who make her meals - therefore the blame SHOULD be on them.

Munchausen by proxy actually. One is making yourself sick and sympathetic, the other is doing it to your kid.

Exactly. If the parents keep feeding her because she's hungry they should be smart enough to take her to the doctor, syndrome/disease or not. She probably couldn't get INTO the cupboards or pantry much less make anything.

What I'm really shocked by is that this has gone on for this long! Didn't a red flag go off at any of this child's checkups with her doctor?

HOWEVER-- With PW Syndrome, a child must be put on an EXTREMELY limited low calorie diet. Feeding her normally will make a child obese.

Have you ever skipped a few meals and felt what it's like to have hunger pains? To have such a need to eat that it's painful? That's what people with PW feel like all the time.

Now, imagine you have a child with PW who is in pain all the time because she always feels like she's being starved. Then add to that -- that you must only feed her a few hundred calories a day. Do you realize how difficult that can be for a parent?

If the parents are just over feeding her, and nothing is medically wrong with the child.. then yes, I agree.. that is abuse. However, if she has PW or another disorder, then I wouldn't be so quick to put blame on the parents.

If she has a disorder, the parents STILL let her get this heavy. You'd think they'd have put her on a reduce calorie diet before now. But no, gotta give their little rolling angel as much as she wants. Letting your child get that heavy without intervention, disorder or no, is the parents fault.

Placing blame on a disorder is just one more instance of people failing to take responsibility for themselves and, in this case, their children. It's not like she was slightly overweight. She ROLLED. A doctor would have picked up on it before she needed admittance to a hospital, if they'd actually gone and seen one.

Yes, that's right. I just went on Wikipedia and dug a lil' deeper. :)

Blueangel. Stop Stop Stop.

You are seeking to redefine the argument on the basis of an unproven/unsuggested presuppositon. You have not shown that there is even the smallest chance this kid has PW syndrome.

Nor have you made any reference to the myriad other symptoms that a PW-child would be blatantly manifesting all her life.

You persist in defending these parents for no discernible reason. Do they pay you? :)

Also, if the child had a medical problem, the parents would be even more at fault for not treating the child properly.

If they have just overfed an otherwise healthy kid . . that makes them simply stupid.

If they have failed to treat an underlying medical condition . . . that makes them stupid and malicious.

To change the situation a bit, if the child had some bacterial infection that made her fat, and required life long medication, I doubt you would be sympathetic to the parents if they didn't give her the medication because the child complained and she had uncomfortable side effects.

Oh, and hasn't the child lost a lot of weight? From restricting her calories?

Anyone find it funny that there is an M&M's banner ad?

Yeah, I'm not sure if remember more from my abnormal psych class or an episode of Law & Order: SVU. :p Now, if the parents just wanted money and fame and it wasn't a psychological issue wanting sympathy and attention (there's a distinct difference) that's just plain malingering. It's like shaving your kids head, and making her sick just for the cancer donations instead of for people saying "oh it's got to be so difficult being you, how can I help you"

That was the L&O episode but I think she turned out to just be a shitty mom and not a psych patient :D

I think the reason I have more sympathy for parents of children suffering from this disorder (and we don't even know if she has it-- but assuming she does) is because I had a child with it in one of my judo classes. I had a "project smile" class for children and adults with mental and physical challenges.

One of the girls had this disorder, and she was very obese. Her parents put her in my class hoping the physical exercise would help. We talked at length about her problem, and her mother was in tears explaining to me about how difficult it was to withhold food from her daughter who was in constant physical distress. Picture feeling like you haven't eaten for three days.. and picture what it would feel like 24 hours a day. THAT's what these kids feel like all the time.

That's understandable, but that mother was trying. This child's parents had to have been neglegent in some way. I have sympathy for people who suffer from disorders, but not for people who recklessly endanger their child. Even if she has the disorder, her parents were clearly not trying as her weight dropped very quickly upon hospitalization.

OK, I see your point.

We have genetically modified rats and mice that become obese when fed a normal 4% fat rodent chow diet.

They are call the OLEFT rats and the Ob/Ob mice.

For the mice they do not make this protein called Leptin. So they eat uncontrollably even during times of sleep. The leptin is made from fat tissue and is sent up to the arcuate nucleus of the brain to tell these animals they have reached satiety.

I think the OLEFT rats have similar problems.

This issue in this girl may also be glandular, either thyroid or adreals. I forget the disease names but there may be similarities with Graves.

But without the path report, there is no way to go down with the differentials.

And it is true a kid may not be able to cook for himself or herself, so they are consuming large amounts of carbohydrates, monosacchrides possibly with starches. There would be more muscle mass if it was all protein. And as always, with carbs there's fats. So if her parents were neglectful, this kid would have to eating nutrient-poor foods abundantly like candy, sodas, fruit loops, breads, etc. unrestrained for 2 years.

Most babies that gain weight at 2 years old are automatically put on caloric restrictive diet. Now, whether the parents adhere to the PCP's recommendations is a different story.

AKA Monet the big issue is that the kid couldn't actually walk herself to the kitchen, and unless her parents put the food under the counter instead of above she probably couldn't reach it.

I still can't get past the fact that she ROLLED everywhere.

Well, she could have used the toys that didn't break to scoot herself around, then roll over to open the door to gain access to poor food choices.

Since there is a picture of her sitting up, it is possible that she could stand. Then tumble around till she had to roll.

From what I remember speaking to one of the foremost experts on PWS, is that they have mild mental retardation. But I could be wrong.

It did not seem like this young girl had the characteristics of mental retardation from the pictures. Which means, she vocalized and cried at stimuli. Meaning her parents just kept feeding her to "shut her up" because they couldn't stand the whining or the crying...

Those early cues from parents are key in child rearing. If a baby does not receive proper parental cues, their neural development is impaired. This process occurs from day 0...

Feeding behavior is intimately linked to that.

Since I have prove my words:

Dr. Terry Miller, pediatrician. Health Disparities Conference at Legislative Day at the State Capitol. Olympia, WA Public Health Service.

There's been no indication that the child isn't otherwise "normal" develpmentally speaking. It just seems like horrendous parenting.

Although the image of the girl standing and then... tumbling until she reaches food is rather amusing. It wouldn't be too hard to move food out of the way of a six year old who can't climb into things.