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macallan25 02-12-2007 08:24 PM

The Grammys
 
The best part of that whole awards show was Tony Bennett and Stevie Wonder winning the first award. Also, the Doors and the Grateful Dead......whom they didn't really recognize at all won Lifetime Achievement Awards, despite the fact that both bands were far and away better than any of that mainstream crap in the building.

The Dixie Chicks? Are you f**king kidding me? Has anyone actually heard that song or listened to their album? I wouldn't know because they have pretty much been boycotted in most places in the South (or atleast where I have been). The way I saw it, they racked up a bunch of awards for writing a song about how they didn't really give a shit about bashing the US and its government in a foreign country. But hey, give em a break, they "aren't ready to make nice".

Unregistered- 02-12-2007 10:04 PM

That "My Grammy Moment" was a piece of shit.

I thought Christina Aguilera was going to pop a vocal chord.

RACooper 02-12-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1397961)
The Dixie Chicks? Are you f**king kidding me? Has anyone actually heard that song or listened to their album? I wouldn't know because they have pretty much been boycotted in most places in the South (or atleast where I have been). The way I saw it, they racked up a bunch of awards for writing a song about how they didn't really give a shit about bashing the US and its government in a foreign country. But hey, give em a break, they "aren't ready to make nice".

Ummm.. Macallan25 that's actually the point of the song - basically saying that they'll stick to their guns... which is alot easier given that they're right about Bush.

Anyways the song and album did rather well outside of the Southern US, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise that they'd also do well at the Grammys.

smiley21 02-12-2007 10:36 PM

I was happy about the Dixie Chicks winning. I liked their music before, but last night turned me into a fan. I have a lot of respect for them. They did not deserve all the crap that they got for that one comment. That is the end of my political moment. It is just my thoughts....my freedom of speech. I think most people forgot what that means. ......okay no more politics coming from smiley! :p


Back to the Grammy's, Fergie looked amazing and Christina was awesome. I love Justin's song "What Goes Around..." and seeing it live just made me love it more, although I am not crazy about its music video that premiered on MTV last night.

I liked the show overall, but it was just so long.

macallan25 02-12-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RACooper (Post 1398001)
Ummm.. Macallan25 that's actually the point of the song - basically saying that they'll stick to their guns... which is alot easier given that they're right about Bush.

Anyways the song and album did rather well outside of the Southern US, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise that they'd also do well at the Grammys.

Thanks Canadian........I realize that is the point of their song....or did you not read the fourth sentence?

I don't care what they think of Bush, everyone is entitled to their own opinion freedom of speech and blah blah blah. (nor do I give two shits what you think either). For them to go to a foreign country and tell a concert crowd how ashamed they are of the President and the US government is rather disgusting and uncalled for.

The album actually didn't set the world on fire in the US and was aided by heavy sales in places like Australia and Canada (imagine that).

shinerbock 02-12-2007 11:24 PM

The Grammy's aren't legitimate anyway. It generally rewards what is popular rather than what is good. Its all easily digestible hollywood type garbage. Basically you have to be devoid of talent and produced by the record label, anti-establishment, or just so terrible that idiotic music critics give you acclaim because your work is so non-conformist (meaning its utterly terrible).

I didn't pay attention much, but the following are some albums I think really deserved awards....

1) We Shall Overcome: The Pete Seeger Sessions --Bruce Springsteen
2) All the Roadrunning---Emmylou Harris and Mark Knopfler
3) Modern Times-- Bob Dylan
4) Road to Escondido- JJ Cale and Eric Clapton

I know a couple of these won in the smaller categories, but when you say "Best Album" it shouldnt be the best album that most people have heard. Plus its not like these are obscure artists, they've just got a bit more depth than the normal crap.

PeppyGPhiB 02-13-2007 03:35 AM

The Grammys are completely irrelevant now. They're safe and political choices and don't really reward modern work...it's as if they don't realize that every new year brings opportunities to honor new talent. It's like the People's Choice awards where people vote for their "favorite" such-and-such.

RACooper 02-13-2007 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1398022)
Thanks Canadian

Good for you, you remembered I'm Canadian.

Quote:

I don't care what they think of Bush, everyone is entitled to their own opinion freedom of speech and blah blah blah. (nor do I give two shits what you think either). For them to go to a foreign country and tell a concert crowd how ashamed they are of the President and the US government is rather disgusting and uncalled for.
Wow. Perhaps I should repeat the "infamous" quote just so we know what horrible things they said:
'Just so you know, we're ashamed the President is from Texas'

Anyways why was it so "oh noez, them bitches" for them to say that one little line? I mean seriously why get so bent oit of shape over such a simple statement of opinion? It's not like it happens all the time or anything...

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The album actually didn't set the world on fire in the US and was aided by heavy sales in places like Australia and Canada (imagine that).
What that a non-jingoistic country album with good songs on it would do well in Canada and Australia? Shocking...

PM_Mama00 02-13-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RACooper (Post 1398087)
Good for you, you remembered I'm Canadian.



Wow. Perhaps I should repeat the "infamous" quote just so we know what horrible things they said:
'Just so you know, we're ashamed the President is from Texas'

Anyways why was it so "oh noez, them bitches" for them to say that one little line? I mean seriously why get so bent oit of shape over such a simple statement of opinion? It's not like it happens all the time or anything...



What that a non-jingoistic country album with good songs on it would do well in Canada and Australia? Shocking...

I don't like Bush. At all.

BUT you still DO NOT go into another country saying you are ashamed of him... whether it's from where he is, or the war, or even about him choking on a pretzel. You don't do that.

ASUADPi 02-13-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1398097)
I don't like Bush. At all.

BUT you still DO NOT go into another country saying you are ashamed of him... whether it's from where he is, or the war, or even about him choking on a pretzel. You don't do that.


But they have every right to say stuff negative about Bush. Yes, it was tacky because they said it in another country, but it is their right.

Again, not to start an arguement but it really bugs me when people "forget" that they have that right and just because they are famous doesn't mean that their consitutional rights are taken away from them. (And I'm not saying you did, I'm just talking in general).

LaneSig 02-13-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1398022)
Thanks Canadian........I realize that is the point of their song....or did you not read the fourth sentence?

I don't care what they think of Bush, everyone is entitled to their own opinion freedom of speech and blah blah blah. (nor do I give two shits what you think either). For them to go to a foreign country and tell a concert crowd how ashamed they are of the President and the US government is rather disgusting and uncalled for.

The album actually didn't set the world on fire in the US and was aided by heavy sales in places like Australia and Canada (imagine that).

http://www.frontpagepublicity.com/di...ws/063006.html

June 30, 2006
Taking The Long Way has achieved a platinum certification

Four weeks after its release on May 23, Taking The Long Way has achieved a platinum certification by the RIAA for sales topping 1 million units.

The U.S. success has been echoed in similar chart-topping sales figures around the world. Taking The Long Way debuted at #1 (and remained in the top slot for four weeks) in Canada, where it is already 2x platinum, and at #2 in Australia, where it's certified platinum. The album debuted at #8 in New Zealand, where it's been certified gold. Released in Europe on June 12, Taking The Long Way has already crossed the two million mark in sales worldwide with the album hitting the Top 10 in Sweden (peaked at #1), Australia (#2), Germany (#5), Europe (#6) Switzerland (#6), Ireland (#7, gold), Norway (#7), Austria (#8), and the UK Top 75 (#10, gold). The album is a new entry on the charts in Finland (#17), Denmark (#37), Holland (#42), and Belgium (#61). In every market in which it's charted, with the exception of New Zealand and Ireland, Taking The Long Way has the highest-charting debut numbers of any album in the Dixie Chicks' career.

Notice that 4 weeks after its release, it had sold a million copies in the US. It was their highest charting album.
They never said anything against the government. In fact, they said they supported the troops. (edited due to mistake in facts on my part.)

33girl 02-13-2007 10:47 AM

I couldn't stand the Dixie Chicks before, during or after they said anything about W. I think their music is terrible, and Natalie Maines looked like absolute crap. I hope Xtina beat them all up in the parking lot afterwards.

dzfan 02-13-2007 11:12 AM

Really enjoyed the Grammys! LOVED seeing the Police -- great to see them back. Thought Lionel was really good and soooo glad that Stevie Wonder and Tony Bennet won -- I had tears when he thanked his mom!

And congrats to Carrie Underwood -- I love her! Sooo glad that she won 2 grammys! She really has done well.

I was just looking at some great pics from the night at cmt -- here they are if interested:

http://www.cmt.com/music/events/gram...alleries.jhtml

AlphaGamDiva 02-13-2007 11:55 AM

lorrrrd
 
i was upset justin didn't win best album. boo. :(

that he lost to the dixie chicks is a little salt in the wound. personally, i think what miss natalie maines still needs to realize is that, yes, freedom of speech gives her the power to say what she wants without a public flogging, however--it's not a "act like pure white trash" card, though. the little simpsons "haha" was obnoxious. ok, so you're a bit miffy over the boycotts, but have a little class. i'm all about freedom of speech, but i'm also about people being polite and sounding educated and like a grown adult and not a kid cartoon character. it's like she learned nothing about maybe, just maybe, she should be more mindful of how she words things....i'm not saying WHAT she says, but HOW she says it (before i get blasted). you can still make a statement and get your point across without being an ass.

macallan25 02-13-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACooper (Post 1398087)
What that a non-jingoistic country album with good songs on it would do well in Canada and Australia? Shocking...

That crap is not country.

xo_kathy 02-13-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1398097)
I don't like Bush. At all.

BUT you still DO NOT go into another country saying you are ashamed of him... whether it's from where he is, or the war, or even about him choking on a pretzel. You don't do that.


Why not? I am ashamed of him and I have every right to say that anywhere I want - even in a foreign country. I'm so sure no one ever said a bad word about Clinton outside the U.S. while he was in office! :rolleyes:

shinerbock 02-13-2007 12:10 PM

Any award show that has Justin and Dixie Chicks nominated for best album should be preceded with the letters M-T-V. The fact that this is like the elite awards show is ridiculous. Justin %&$#@! Timberlake? Yeah, what amazing musical talent the kid has.

As for the dixie chicks, they can say whatever they want. What would be nice is if the media would treat them and green day and susan sarandon as what they really are...modern day court jesters who don't know what they're talking about. God I hate Hollywood. I'm gonna stop thinking about it before I have an aneurysm.

macallan25 02-13-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1398110)
http://www.frontpagepublicity.com/di...ws/063006.html

June 30, 2006
Taking The Long Way has achieved a platinum certification

Four weeks after its release on May 23, Taking The Long Way has achieved a platinum certification by the RIAA for sales topping 1 million units.

The U.S. success has been echoed in similar chart-topping sales figures around the world. Taking The Long Way debuted at #1 (and remained in the top slot for four weeks) in Canada, where it is already 2x platinum, and at #2 in Australia, where it's certified platinum. The album debuted at #8 in New Zealand, where it's been certified gold. Released in Europe on June 12, Taking The Long Way has already crossed the two million mark in sales worldwide with the album hitting the Top 10 in Sweden (peaked at #1), Australia (#2), Germany (#5), Europe (#6) Switzerland (#6), Ireland (#7, gold), Norway (#7), Austria (#8), and the UK Top 75 (#10, gold). The album is a new entry on the charts in Finland (#17), Denmark (#37), Holland (#42), and Belgium (#61). In every market in which it's charted, with the exception of New Zealand and Ireland, Taking The Long Way has the highest-charting debut numbers of any album in the Dixie Chicks' career.

Notice that 4 weeks after its release, it had sold a million copies in the US. It was their highest charting album.
They never said anything against the government. In fact, they said they supported the troops. (edited due to mistake in facts on my part.)

I never said it didn't do well. I said it didn't set the world on fire in the US.....which is true. Their three albums they released before their little incident went 28x platinum collectively (12x, 10x, and 6x). After their comments during the 2003 tour, their live album only went gold and this one is 2x platinum......clearly a drop off.

Thanks for wasting your time though trying to prove me wrong. I know you like to do that.

angelic1 02-13-2007 12:52 PM

Honestly get over it.

You have your opinion, others have there's and the fact that we can all state them is the whole ideal our county is supposedly based on.

Also, I never get the whole thing of people trashing anything mainstream, yes some of it is crap, but sometimes some of it is good. As long as you like it, go for it. I just might not.

Personally, I really like the Dixie Chicks and always have. I think they are really good and there music has evolved and grown, but hey thats my opinion.

LaneSig 02-13-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1398147)
I never said it didn't do well. I said it didn't set the world on fire in the US.....which is true. Their three albums they released before their little incident went 28x platinum collectively (12x, 10x, and 6x). After their comments during the 2003 tour, their live album only went gold and this one is 2x platinum......clearly a drop off.

Thanks for wasting your time though trying to prove me wrong. I know you like to do that.

Just to clear up a misunderstanding: I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, I was trying to put out information. If I misunderstood your post, I apologize. Sorry, champ.

smiley21 02-13-2007 01:42 PM

A lot of artists don't sell albums like they used to. In the 90s, albums were constantly going platinum and multi platinum. The farther we get into the 21st century, the harder it is for artists to sell their records because fans are looking to the internet to buy music.

Yeah, I admit that Dixie Chicks' new album did suffer a little bit in long term sales, but it was their fastest selling album. If you look at Billboard every week, you will notice that there are not many albums pass the 4x platinum mark. In fact, there are very few. So I hardly consider this album to be a disappointment. It is hard to sell an album these days.

shinerbock 02-13-2007 02:35 PM

My post got deleted, why?

dzfan 02-27-2007 06:44 PM

I dont why it got erased, umm? what did it say?

I love the Dixie Chicks! I was just watching one of their music video on CMT.com -- Not Ready to Make Nice -- LOVE IT! anyone else?


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