Justice in America
 

We talked about that in law school, pretty ridiculous. Kind of like the title of this thread.

kinda like your comment...

Why was it ridiculous? Because I object to people spelling America with KKK? How absurd of me.

that is an appalling story. WOW. Unbelievable.

Where is there a reason to the title of this thread? There is absolutely nothing racial about this case.

Statutory rape is stupid in some cases. Ask my (white) high school classmate who did time because of it.

They were the idiots who videotaped it.

you're joking, right?

I think there probably is some element of race here. However, to be fair there are a lot of non-minority kids with similar stories. This is a story because of the bright future he had. There is another case about a kid getting 10 years in FL for stealing a 6 pack of beer. I dunno what race he is, though.

Similar to the Marcus Dixon case, also in Georgia. His conviction was reversed in 2004, maybe there's hope for this kid too.

I didn't know someone could go on trial for statutory rape without the "victim" pressing charges.

Oh, I didn't notice this was different from the Dixon case. I'll have to go back and read the article.

This is all sorts of messed up. Another reason I don't necessarily agree with mandatory minimums.

And OMG what is up with these girls?

Good job with the title of the thread.

Yep.

A race element isn't "required" for these statutory rape cases to receive the sentencing and outcome they receive. However, the race element does feed off of public perception and stereotypes to add fuel to the fire.

:rockon:

I watched a Lifetime about women doing mandatory minimums for drug conspiracies. There are some women who are doing life just because of taking a message or driving their boyfriend somewhere. It was really scary.

I just see it as the girl was a slut. She got passed around like nothing while on video tape. She's a smart one too.

Yeah, i remember a kid from my town that went to prison his senior year of HS for sleeping with a freshmen girl. He was white and came from a wealthy family/ arrested by white cops and tried and convicted by white lawyers and judges...is that amerikkkan?? Seriously though, I feel really bad for you. I've never had misjudgement or inequality placed against my sparkely white skin.

Why the hell (other than the fact that you started it) is this thread titled Justice in AmeriKKKa. Jesus, some of you people need to get over yourselves.

My senior year I played baseball with a white guy from a wealthy family who was involved in an almost identical case right before the MLB draft. Went to prison for a year, didn't get drafted, and had every major college he had a scholarship to back out. Pretty much ruined his life. Knew a couple white football players who had similar incidents that forced them out of going to college to play.
.........yep.......good ole' white, racist America at its finest.

Maybe instead of making this into a racial issue, you should reinforce the need to keep your f**king dick in your pants.......especially with a damn FIFTEEN year old girl.

But it so much easier to blame others for your inability to succeed in life

There is something to be said for giving dumb kids a second chance. I've seen a lot of people whose lives have been altered for stupid stuff. The problem is that for some police officers, maybe who didn't go to college, getting arrested is just a daily thing. For a kid hoping to go to law school and walking home from the bar drunk, its a bit more than a slip up. I know the standard should be the same for everyone, but some people in positions of power view getting arrested as part of growing up or something you laugh about later. To a degree it can be, but it can also mess up the future plans of a person who is otherwise an all around good kid.

This isn't to relieve people of their responsibility to respect the law. The main point young people need to take away is that refraining from things that often get you in trouble isn't enough. Don't even put yourself in a situation where its possible to get into trouble, be it with an overzealous cop or a lying teenage girl.

One more reason not to live in the South.

who's blaming someone on not succeeding? apparently, reading comprehension is not one of your strong points.

you realize the kid was 17 when this happened? how many of us have messed with girls TWO years our junior when we were in high school? lets not pretend this thing isn't common.

I'm pretty sure there are several black men in NYC who wouldn't agree that the north is devoid of problems like this...

Please, i'm talking about your rants in general. It's getting old.

if you're not smart enough to engage in the topic at hand, i suggest clicking the red x at the top right.

This isn't two kids playing footsie in the cafeteria. Drugs+ alcohol+ videotaped gangbanged 15 year old = JAIL

it's completely understandable if he was 25 or something like that. he was probably a junior, and she was a freshman.

yea, and? how often is sex going on between young people at the high school level?

What topic? How some innocent man is being thrown in jail just for being black?

All the time, but most parents don't press charges against their kids boyfriends/girlfriends. There was a reason why he was arrested. The girl he had sex with claimed she was raped.

It doesnt matter where you live, the HS statutory rape case I mentioned happened in Detroit.

And while it may be a dumb kid thing, or even accepted now (I don't think 14-15 year old girls having sex should be readily accepted), guys just can't put themselves in those situations. I always thought he was paranoid, but my father has always been big on me being careful around girls of questionable character. Similar thing with police or whoever, you simply can't give them any reason to get you for something.

The first thing I thought when I read the story was that if I ever have a son I will definitely drill this into his head.

If that's smart to you then I don't know what isn't.

So is how you see it supposed to negate something?

Most people that I hung around had enough class to realize that screwing around with a skank whore of a girl that young when you are in high school is pretty damn inappropriate.

Get over starang21 and get over it, in general.

Is there much of a difference, except in persspective, between a 17 year old having sex with a 15 year old or a 25 year old doing it? Either a girl can consent or not.

What is interesting is that consent is not something a 15 year old girl an give . . she isn't adult enough . . but she can committ murder and be considered an adult.

And there is an enormous double standard if the genders had been reversed. Which doesn't make any sense at all when looked at in a way that examines the logical underpinnings of such laws.

Trying to legislate social situations like this is actually kind of stupid.

The point that these people in this thread are making is that this happens quite often, and also to white males who have sex with white females, so it isn't a race issue.

Their point is valid however, like was already stated, race compounds many issues and this tends to be one of them. That's evidenced by the comments I've read on other boards and in-person regarding this topic. Race may not (read: may not) have been a factor in the fact that he was arrested and so forth, seeing as though things like this happen all the time, but it would be interesting to see if it may (read: may) have been an extralegal and undocumented factor in the sentencing. That can't really be proven but I'd be interested to see the sentencing criteria either way.

Well, its seems pretty clear by you colorful thread title and the posted article that you think this dumbass moron was dealt a serious injustice and prevented from going to college because of the fact that he is black.

....or maybe you think gangbanging a 15 year old on video is acceptable behavior.

I think that these types of situations are extreme and most people aren't tried for having sex with someone 2 years younger. For the most part, statutory rape cases are dealing with a more cut-and-dry age differential.