High School Cheer Leading Squad Terrorists.
 

Hm, McKinney Texas.

Amazing these are not adults, but try to act older!:rolleyes:

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a...00010000000001

I'm just :eek: about this.

There was a Lifetime movie about the "boys will be boys" attitude of a school -- it starred Tiffani-Amber Thiessen and Brian Austin Green.

Never thought I'd see "girls will be girls".

Newsweek article

Fab 5 Photos

At least we know now that none of them are no longer on the cheerleading squad. I hope Principal/Mom never works in school administration again. I know people will most likely disagree with this because the two are completely different, but if she can't even control her daughter...how can she run a school?

ETA: From this morning's Dallas Morning News -- the ex-cheerleaders and parents tell their side.

I certainly wouldn't disagree.

The cheerleading program is part of the overall school program and she has responsibility for it.

Look in the dictionary under terribly misplaced priorities and you'll probably find pictures of this woman and "her" cheerleaders.

Wasn't there in incident in Texas a few years ago where a mother tried to take out a contract on someone else's daughter because hers didn't make the cheerleading squad?

Ugh!

Not that pretty. God, these are the types of girls that made me hate greek life at the beginning. Thank god I had that leveled out for me.
Reminds of me of 'The 10' in Pledged. Heh.

A story like this making the national news is pretty rare, but I think the behavior of the kids and the parents is pretty common.

The article that gives the parents' side fails to note that one of the reasons that the situation got out of control was that the parents refused to accept the punishments that the school originally gave the girls for the various thing they did. The parents would appeal the decisions on behalf of the girls, and I think it taught the girls that they were running the show.

Had the parents backed the school in saying "no" early on, I wonder if any of the elements of the national news story would have happened?

Some more recent stories are telling the "fab 5's" side ... which I think is pretty interesting.

Of course they're going to play down the things they did.

"Oh I graduated early and now I don't get a senior year"

Boo freakin' hoo. That was your choice. You could have stuck it out with the rest of your posse, but instead you left.

I think it's interesting that they say it was never as bad as everyone is saying it is, but yet at the same time, this was their FOURTH coach in a year.

Yea, sometimes people leave because a better opportunity came up, or they were moving, or whatever, but FOUR? hmmmm....

The same quote about the senior year jumped out at me too. I had the same reaction as Texas*Princess.
Who ruined your senior year? Oh, yeah, you did.

The four coaches in four years thing came up in the district's official report. The outside investigator mentioned that the other coaches weren't completely truthful about why they left their positions. (which makes sense to me because if you are still teaching in the district or want to, you aren't going to call out a lack of administrative support or the lack of parenting skills in the local community)

I have to say though, cheerleading is often a high turnover extra-curricular. Depending on where you are and how big competition is, it can run most of the school year, and yet, it doesn't usually command a big pay addition. Plus some of the parents tend to be really nuts.

It was stated in several articles that it was four coaches in just ONE year, which makes the situation even more disturbing.

Wow
 

WOW, I thought that they had just two coaches this year, the whistleblower and whoever replaced her.



http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...rtexcerpts.pdf

This is the document I was thinking of: its only reference is to five coaches in the last three years. Pretty bad, indeed.

Sounds just like The Plastics from "Mean Girls"!

"Some parents today feel that their No. 1 job is to protect their child, and it's not," she said. "Their job is to raise an ethical child, which means holding them accountable for bad behavior."

--Rosalind Wiseman, an educator on teens and parenting, and author of the book "Queen Bees and Wannabee's"

LOVE that quote from the article, especially as a "retired" educator.

With their personalities, I'm almost certain that they will rush for the same whatever-popular-GLO-on-thier-campus together. Now with their photos circulating the web, I wonder how that would affect their chances? :p

A few months from now, how many college age women will even remember this episode -- let alone the names of those involved?

Besides there may be some house somewhere who would love to "terrorize" their campus.

Not many, I hope.

Some girls have amazing memories! :p

"Some" being the important word here...

IT MUSt have a been a slow news day....and only the school is to blame really

For the most part, but don't you think the parents have to take some of the blame for challenging school policies and potential punishment?

maybe, but the school backed down

I mean...okay so the girls have a sence of entitlement...probably passed down for generations, the parents think they are golden, and the school gets walked all over by the parents. Should we blame the grandparents for the way that these parents are raising these kids?

Although, in the same situation, I would have been way worse.


I still think this is "filler" this is in no way "real news" I mean seriously so much more important stuff is happening than this

It only takes 1! :)

I see it this way.

If one of the Fab Five members attends a college/university with a cutthroat Greek system -- I really wouldn't be surprised if they're doomed.

True, the names may be forgotten, but McKinney North HS on a rush application would definitely turn on a few lightbulbs, especially at an in-state school. I'm thinking McKinney North has hundreds of alumnae at various schools who are current collegiate members of sororities. So Lisa's right. It only takes one!

I think whoever said it 'only takes 1' is very very true.

If, for whatever reason, they decided to go to UNT, (not saying that is what is going to happen, but a large % of students & Greek students are from this area) I can't think of any group that would want them.

Even if they went to UT/Tech/A&M I think the same thing would happen. With "McKinney North" on the high school line, and the fact that at least a couple of them left hs early ... it doesn't take a genius to put these together (i.e. McKinney North HS & being a sophomore come rush time next fall)

Best thread ever.

Many of the above posters could stand in for these "mean girls".

Not me.

I think you'd make a great "mean girl."

I could do the mean part.

I agree with this - look at what happened with the Glenbrook North girls.

Do you mean:

'In 1991, Wanda Holloway asked her brother-in-law to hire a hitman to kill the mother of a girl who was competing with her daughter for a spot on the same Texas cheerleading squad. Holloway wanted the mother killed because she determined the competing girl would be so upset by the murder of her mother that she would drop out of the competition. Both girls were thirteen at the time of the plot.
She is known as the "Texas-Cheerleader-Murdering-Mom."'

Holly Hunter starred in a movie based on this story.

Also, don't forget Willing to Kill: the Texas Cheerleader Story! It's one of my favorite Lifetime Movie Network staples...they show it at least once a month!

Woooo...Channelview High!

I vaguely remember the Glenbrook North girls... didn't a couple of them end up in a sorority somewhere?

Well, it seems like it would be hard to any of the five to get a hometown rec. anyway.

I think that the parents are to blame more than the school although the school didn't handle things well either.

You can turn out to be a decent person even if your high school administrators are idiots as long as your parents showed you right from wrong.

On the other hand, it's hard not to turn out to be a jerk if your parents reared you to believe that the only values are your individual rights and "success," which is another idea from the report.

It's a perfect storm of suburban affluenza, indifference, and irresponsibility.

Wikipedia has a Glenbrook North entry:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenbro...th_High_School.
At least in that case the suspensions stuck, it seems. (I can't decide which is sadder. The fact that an apparently decent high school will always be remembered for the hazing incident or the person who wrote up the debate section of the entry, not that three national championships in a single year isn't an accomplishment.)

According to this, at least one of the hazers at a midwestern university got cut from rush immediately once it was found out that she took part in the hazing.

Several others did join sororities at another midwestern school, but that's all GeekyPenguin would say on that. ;)

I suspect that would be the case here as well.

Some chapters just won't put it together, especially if they're outside the region.

While I agree that the principal was at fault here (note I said principal not school because it sounds like some teachers tried to punish these students and the adminstration and parents did not support them) at what point do parents have to be responsible for their childs behavior?

Frankly my parents knew my friends, what I did, and where I was pretty much until I went to college. They were open about the fact that drinking underage was not acceptable in their house and there would be consequences about it. I knew my parents meant it and I respected them enough to follow their rules. Once I went to college my parents started to trust my judgement, but until then they said I was a kid and as a kid I was going to do dumb things and it was their job to keep me from dumb things that would harm me or others. So sorry if this sounds mean to some, but I do blame the parents in this sutitution quite a lot.

They should have known what their daughters were doing. It is their job as parents to know what their children are doing. I could not believe in the dallas article a parent said that if the school had told them their daughter was disrespectful they would have done something. Hate to tell that parent, but if they had raised their children right the reports of disrespect and the reports of drinking would not have occured.

The parents in this situation knew what they were doing and by appealing punishments and the such the were partly to blame for the behavior, but the school administration (not teachers) are to blame for not controlling it.

Parents and kids will do these things if the school does not put a stop to it. The administration was letting these girls do what they want and were not supporting staff in disciplining the behavior.

Most parents can be worse than the kids (this is where the child learns it). Trust me I had to deal with two parents in high school who were constantly spreading lies about me (bc their daughters did not make the squad).

About the girls in a sorority - sad thing is there will probably a group on campus they could fit in with. This is not an isolate event. Plenty of HS girls would run with this power if they were given it.

Wasn't the principal the parent of one of the five girls? She compounded her errors by being a bad principal on top of her sucky parenting.

Texas has a store called Condoms To Go?

That's freakin' awesome.

okay so what did they do?

I just re-read the article, I found no wrong doing other than the article "they were bad" and all of you saying "they were bad and the parents/school are/is retarded" I hope they sue the school for defamation.

i saw this movie a couple of weeks ago...

I teach in a school district next to this one. The problems seemed to be that 5 of the girls had a "We can do anything we want" attitude. The problems reportedly included cutting classes, walking out of classes at whim, failing to turn in assigned work, talking disrespectfully to teachers, etc. The principal was the mother of one of the girls and it appears that she stopped or changed disciplinary actions taken against the girls.

Another major issue was when the girls went to a store in the area called "Condoms to Go" (There are several locations in the Dallas area.) The girls went in their cheerleading outfits and posed in sexually suggestive ways. The cheerleading sponser tried to suspend them for this (wearing the school cheerleading uniform while doing this) and the principal refused to allow the suspensions. Most schools tell all their athletes and cheerleaders this: When you are in a school uniform, you are representing us. Do not act up. Sort of like the GLOs telling our members the same when they have on letters or are at functions.