What about Sorors who...
 

What's Up Frat:

Much love to my bruhs of Omega Psi Phi and (of course) the DevaSTating Sorors of DST:

Just a question for the Bruhs and Sorors:

What do you think of Sorors who choose not to give "love" to the bruhs. I know some Sorors who feel it is their prerogative to hug the bruhs or not hug the bruhs.

Do you think the bruhs should feel "entitled" to get love from Sorors regardless of what type of "ordeals" Sorors may have had with bruhs in the past.

I know some Sorors who would prefer the bruh not put his leg up/lick her ears when she is going to hug him. As a result, she may feel awckward hugging the bruhs...period.

Is this a problem to bruhs?

Sorors, how do you feel?



[This message has been edited by DELTABRAT (edited August 15, 2000).]

It is the prerogative of the sorors whether or not they wish to have any type of relationship with the bruhs. This is tradition, but not something that we are obligated to participate in.
Having said that, it should be known and understood that the bruhs love the sorors and the bond that we have. I recognize that sorors may have had negative experiences with SOME bruhs. Fact is, bruhs have had some bad experinces with other bruhs. Certainly there are bad apples in every bunch. Overall bruhs have nothing but respect for sorors.

Also understand that the bruhs are very close. We show love in a lot of different ways. That is not to say that ear licking and the like is acceptable, but don't expect every bruh to act like that. We love you. Let a bruh know that you want a hug that won't get you pregnant. If you don't want hug him then don't. Be nice in spite of someone that is not be civil.

I have nothing but love for the sorors and I hate it when sorors have a bad impression of the bruhs, but I do understand. Let keep the bond strong.

and I'm gone

Thanks Frat for you sincere response. I agree wholeheartedly.

PEACE

Deltabrat: never fear the Bruhs, its all love. Of course there are some ignorant Bruhs (stay away from the drunk ones and you will be fine) I love the Sorors (can I say that?) and I always greet them with a "friendly" hug. Never heard of the earlick or giving a Red the "leg". ROOOO Dyhardque.

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What's Up DoggyStyle?

Don't get me wrong. I love the Bruhs. It's just that i have seen this before and have read about it in another thread.

I agree that the drunken Bruhs are to be approached with caution, but otherwise it's all good. I have gotten my ears licked before, but I haven't written the Bruhs off as just overboard, to the point wehre I would not want to "give love" anymore.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify.

PEACE.

To Everyone...we have very inteliigent Frat and Sorors around these parts. Post interesting topics PLEASE...I would love to respond and be a part.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
(stay away from the drunk ones and you will be fine)

LOL!! True words of wisdom!

SexyMocha, what a nice name. You must know how hyped and "friendly" (passionate?) bruhs are to begin with. Add a little (or a lot) of brew and/or Omega Oil, and the naturally rambunctious Bruh becomes especially hard to handle. Present company excluded of course!!!

Hyped and friendly is putting it mildly! I don't know what Omega Oil is, but there should be some kind of bill passed prohibiting the mixing of Ques and alcohol http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif. I've been around my share of Omegas, and as charming and intelligent as I know you men are http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif...you guys can get just a wee bit out of hand at times! (Present company excluded of course!)

[This message has been edited by Sexy Mocha (edited August 22, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Sexy Mocha (edited August 22, 2000).]

Mocha, you are crazy girl! I don't even want to know what Omega Oil is!

Cream Puff and Mocha, you mean to tell me that you have never been to The Omega Drip sponsored by Epsilon Chapter?. The Drip is flowing with Omega Oil. Suffice it to say, Omega Oil is a libation that enhances that "nothin but the Dog in me attitude"

No, I have never been to The Omega Drip http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif...but thanks for explaining what Omega Oil is! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

This is an interesting question, Soror! I am one of those old fashioned, southern Sorors (Mississippi native) who is all about Coleman Love. However, I pledged in Ohio, and up here many Sorors stand firmly by the protocol that says that we have no bond or official sibling relationship with Omega Psi Phi.

Shortly after I crossed, my chapter advisor and one of my Bigs "told me off" when I was telling them how much love the bruhs at a nearby school had shown me when they found out I'd just crossed. I told them that the bruhs were caling me "soror" and giving me tight hugs; basically both my advisor and my Big told me that I have no respect for Delta if I let someone who is not a Delta call me "Soror." They also told me that it was ridiculous of me to let some Ques disrespect me by hugging on me! I took heed to their comments, knowing that they were just looking out for the best interest of a neo. Still, I ultimately made the decision to keep tradition alive by giving and receiving Coleman Love wherever I go. Besides, having studied five LONG years of Latin, I know that "soror" simply means "sister." And I'd like to think that I am deemed a sister by every black man and woman in this world!

This is an issue for Deltas everywhere, and I know it has bothered many of our Omega brothers who, like me, see the Que-Delta bond as a way of greek life. We know we're not constitutionally bound, but we do it out of tradition-- it's one of the very few positive traditions we have left since pledging has gone so out-of-wack. In my opinion it is harmless, but many sorors think it's wrong. Those of us who don't are often scorned or looked down on by those sorors who have a problem with it.

Fact is, we won't always agree on every little greek detail about our organizations. I am just happy when we agree to join together and carry out our goals and missions, virtues and oaths for the good of the communities we serve. Both the members fo Delta Sigma Theta AND the members of Omega Psi Phi have done an EXCELLENT job of that, and that's all that REALLY matters! I have nothing but MAD LOVE for the Sorors who aren't with that Coleman Love thang, but trust me when I say "OOP-ROO" forever and always!



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Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
Pi Kappa, SP97
#3 of QUINTESSENCE

Soror:

Very well said.

Most of the Sorors that I have met from Ohio show mad love for the Bruhs (Univ of Cincinnati, especially) However, many protocol restricted members seemed to be bothered by the love. I think that they have a problem with informality and the lack of there being any constitutional or formal bond. I know of other Deltas (hostess of another forum especially) who dislikes Coleman Love and our shared history. Share the love. It was abundant in Chicago!!!!

I have nothing but love for my Sorors and the Bruhs. We have a strong history together. In knowing our history we would understand why there is so much love and so many connections with the Bruhs. Of course it is one's choice to live the way they want to live do what they want, but i don't find there to be any harm in showing the Bruhs love and greeting and hugging them when you see them. Where I'm from its kind of disrespectful not to show love from both ends. Many feel the Bruhs are over bearing but to get to know them is to love them and to know that they have your back.

Bruhs do and always will get much love from me. No we don't have some piece of paper saying that we are brothers and sisters but the fine men of Omega Psi Phi helped my 22 beloved founders in a time of need! Besides if Edna Brown Coleman can show mad love for a bruh so can I.


MUCH COLEMAN LOVE,
DeltaDiva
P.S. To all my beautiful sorors ooooo-oop!

I just have a question, and if its something that cant be answered, then ill know why my post was deleted. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif but i just wanted to know is Omega Oil something different from Que Juice, or is it a terratorial(sp?) thing?

Omega Oil is special, Que Juice is not.

As an neo, just reaching AKAland I personally try to show love to all greeks but truthfully, before becoming greek, I was really intimidated by the Ques. When I see the bruhs on my campus do certain thangs, like grinding on eachothers behinds I just wonder what they are about. Really "close" I guess. But at the same time, on my campus my prophytes have a better relationship with the Ques in general, than the Alphas. I think, once a soror gets to know the individual members, she may not be so intimidated. Its also easier, at least for me, to deal with your own sandz. To end it all, I think the reason some sorors, from any sorority may not show love to Ques is because she is scared of them.
Why are Ques so wild (at least generally/ stereotypically) anyway?

I wish I had some bruhs here to show love to!I haven't met hardly any since I've crossed! Come visit me! Xavier University and University of Cincinnati bruhs seem nonexistent. And can someone please tell me, how do you greet one another??? It's different everytime i turn around!

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Delta Sigma Theta Sorority,Inc
Rho Xi,Sp'01
#4,Issues

Bruhs??? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif You're an aka, right?

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P.H.A.S.A.D.
#14
D.S.G.H.O.S.T.S.
LAMBDA
4/15/00

Sorry to say, but the Bruhs in Cincinnati have been suspended for a while. They should be coming back soon but its been at least 3 or 4 years. Its a shame because they were some damn good Bruhs. You would have had fun with them.

To know the Bruhs is to love them, for the uninitiated, it can be intimidating. That is what makes the QUES special and a cut above. I think you may have mis-interpreted "the grinding on each other" for a step routine or something, definitely a misconception. Reach out and touch, face your fears and be amazed by an Omega. We're all bark anyway. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

I see my soror has not yet responded, so I will take the liberty. Yes, as stated, she is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority. She referred to the Omegas as "the bruhs" not my bruhs. The bruhs is short for the brothers of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Incorporated...as to avoid typing (or saying) this title in informal settings , it is commom place for people (not just Deltas) to simply refer to them as the bruhs. I hope this clarifies things for you.



[This message has been edited by Sexy Mocha (edited May 14, 2001).]

Out of respect for MY Bruhs house........I will leave this one alone. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

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P.H.A.S.A.D.
#14
D.S.G.H.O.S.T.S.
LAMBDA
4/15/00

I'm not trying to start anything. I'd just like to be educated. Omega Psi Phi and Delta Sigma Theta are not officially a brother and sister organization, so what difference does it make if a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha refers to an Omega as "Bruh"??

I understand the Coleman Love debate, but thats between the Deltas and Ques. But for a Delta to question a member of another sorority for making a "Bruh" reference to Omega Psi Phi, well, seems a little too...well....testy..or catty...maybe these aren't the right words, but I hope you guys understand what I'm saying. Again, I do not want to offend anybody, I just want to be educated.

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Oh I see, I'll stay out of the fire....

You know what you're right!!!

I guess it depends on where you are from and how things are said. However unofficial the brother/sister relationship between Delta and Omega, it is very real in many places and is taken very seriously, nut that is up to individual chapters.

On the question at hand, it depends. To me, a Delta can say "my Bruh/s". But in some places, Omegas are simply known as or referred to as "da Bruhs" by other sororities because in their neck of the woods, the term only referred to men of Omega (especially on the east coast like in Philly and NYC). I know that AKAs have asked me before "where is the Bruhs cookout?" or "are the Bruhs stepping in the show?", with the term being used in the generic sense and not the possessive sense as a Sista of DST has the familiarity to do so.

That probably didn't explain anything, but thats my take on it. I guess it really depends on where you are from and what you are used to.

BTW, thanks CrimsonRage for feeling so possessive. Its nice to be wanted by someone other than the law http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

DoggyStyle and all MY Bruhs, please forgive me BUT...

Plain Jane, your comments are obviously an attempt to 'suck up' to the AKAs (I got love for MY Greek sisters http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif ) BUT we have an unspoken rule here on GC (since you ARE new and all http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif ) :

"those who know, SPEAK; those who don't, sit back and LEARN"

Since you are NOT a Delta, an AKA or an Omega ( http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif oops! You are not even Greek!), obviously yo do not fall into the category of those who KNOW...sooooo...

*Now, back to our regularly scheduled program*


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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

[This message has been edited by mccoyred (edited May 16, 2001).]

FYI for those who feel that they must stick there nose in to other peoples business....

Coleman Love exist between the Delta's and Omega's ....MY BRUHS that's right I said it MY BRUHS http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif just as MY BRUHS address Delta's as SOROR or RED

Now why NON-GREEKS and GREEKS for that matter have a Problem with this I don't know. Do you hear anyone tripping about the the men of Alpha Phi Alpha and the ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha being the First Family??? ( No disrespect intended )

NO!! So please don't trip off the Coleman Love between MY SOROR AND MY BRUHS!!! BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW NOW YOU DO.....THE BOND OF A DELTA AND AN OMEGA CAN NEVER EVER BE BROKEN!!!!

OOOP-ROOOOOOO to all MY FINE, INTELLIGENT, BRUHS.


I'm OUT!!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

Ok, so that pretty much sums this part of my response up for miss sexy mocha...now on to miss plain janem actually this sums up much of my response to you as well, seeing as how you fit into neither catagory...

The remainder of my response to you, plain jane, is that as my soror mccoyred has stated, this is an issue that those who are members of glos are, or at leasr should be very familiar with. First of all, the phrase "the bruhs" orginally was reserved for only members of Omega Psi Phi but as the things relaxed a bit throughout the century my sorors, who "unofficially" as you have pointed out, have taken on the ability to refer to them as that as well..ONLY because historically, not officially they are our bruhs. Now, as for the commonality of the phrase "the bruhs" being prevelant throughout the country or from place to place for all sororities, where I am from that is not done..PERIOD. That is like me referring to the Alphas as "the bruhs". That's not respectful to those members of that particular "family" for whom that phrase is reserved. It makes no sense. Now, some Omegas, as I am now aware, do not have a problem with other members of various sororities referring to them as "the bruhs" but even more DO have a problem with it and will not only look at you like you were never taught whose familiy you do belong to but will actually call you on it. This is precisely because of the reasons DoggyStyle mentioned: this is relationship that is taken very seriously. Now, my dear, since you are new to greek chat and you have plunged right in with your critical and even more so disrespectful comments toward members to my organization, allow me to school you a bit on GC etiquette:

1) Do read the title of posts and intitial statement made by the thread starter..this actually goes for EVERYONE! The particualr thread may not be one in which your comments are welcomed.

2) If you are aware of the familiy relationship, namely the Coleman bond, then refrain from getting involved in Coleman related issues.

3) Again, since you are aware that this IS a family, then do NOT make derrogatory, disrespectful, or rude comments to the Sorors who constitute the members of the said family.

4)Finally, this tends to be a positive forum and message board so basically , leave the quick snappish attitude at the door before you enter, and again, only enter when the door has a "ALL ARE WELCOME" sign on it.


I hope your posting on GC is positive and stimulating as so far most frequenters of CG's have been.

DoggyStyle, bruh, I apologize for taking up this much space in the forum but I won't allow your forum to become infiltrated with bickering any more than I will allow ours to. And you are VERY welome for the love and possessiveness, I was raised right.



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P.H.A.S.A.D.
#14
D.S.G.H.O.S.T.S.
LAMBDA
4/15/00

FYI, I personally don't have a problem at all with any bond that Deltas have with the Ques. (As you have so eloquently recognized, we have our own bond with the men of Alpha Phi Alpha.)My response to CrimsonRage's question was to clarify something which appeared to be very confusing for her.

As you stated, Alpha Kappa Alpha and Alpha Phi Alpha do indeed share a special bond, but I feel very secure within that bond to not feel threatened if a member of another sorority refers to them as "the bruhs". Why would I? I know where the real love/connection/bond lies.

It's kind of like having a man...if you are secure in your relationship and truly know you are the only woman for him (and vice versa), you wouldn't be one of those possesive females that run around trying to fight every girl that says hi to him.

My best friend is a Delta, so I think the Coleman Love thing is wonderful....so believe me...I am not trying to minimize that bond or by any means claim the Ques as my brothers. God knows, I have more than enough of "the bruhs" as friends....I don't need them as brothers too.

Whooaa!! Hold on there!! Huh???

What is all this lecturing to me about being negative. I reread my message and as far as I'm concerned I was just asking a question. I asked to be EDUCATED!! What part of my message was rude??!!! Your response and MCCROYRED's response to me was rude and VERY derogatory. I think its sad that you choose to speak to another Black woman in that manner just because you are in a Sorority. Again, I was just asking a question.

How could you write the kind of response you wrote and say I'M negative. Have Mercy! But you know what, since YOU state that I'm not apart of any family, I'll do as you ask and be very careful with my questions.

To DoggyStyle and other Omega Men, sorry if I caused any drama, didn't mean to.

Jeez!

Shaking my head..... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif

Before I cause anymore confusion my previous post was directed to CrimsonRage.

Thanks again.

Fear not Sista, you are welcome to post your free and unadulterated opinion here. Secondly, I welcome your love and the others like McCoyRed. In too many places, people are being taught to ignore the bond. Why, I don't know. It is a beautiful thing and what makes it better is that it is not forced, faked, or written on paper. It has always been natural. Thats why I love to here a Delta say "whats up Bruh?" or "Hey Bruh, can a Soror get a hug?" No one else can say it like that. I'm hesitant to call a Delta that I don't know "Soror" or "Red" sometimes because you never really know how someone was raised.

Greek love and BTW, where SexyMocha is from, the Bruhs and the AKAs are real tight.

Please read the thread in my Greek Sisters' AKA forum about CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

First of all, THANK YOU DOGGYSTYLE for answering me in an intelligent respectable manner.

as for MCCOYRED, you are right I am not Greek, I'm just a college educated Black Woman and thank you for educating me with your catty response. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif

Not catty, just dropping some knowledge! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif

I'm out (sorry Bruhs http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif )



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913