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KSUViolet06 12-02-2006 02:45 PM

Live-in requirements?
 
I have been curious about this ever since I met a girl who is in a sorority at a school where they have residential houses, but don't REQUIRE girls to live there.

Does/did your chapter require you to live in the chapter house (or dorm floor/suite/whatever)? How long?

I know personally my chapter has a two semester live-in requirement. The only exceptions are medical (i.e. we have a girl in the chapter who goes to dialysis 3x a week and living in is too far away), you OWN a house, or being an RA.

All officers (7) must live in for their entire term.

Capacity is like 20, and if you subtract the 7 officers, that only leaves 13 spots to fill.

We always have alot of girls wanting to move in in the fall after they're initiated, so it hasn't really been something that is like "pulling teeth" (though there is a system in place for determining who needs to move in, if it should ever come to that at any point).


bluefish81 12-02-2006 03:04 PM

My undergraduate chapter had live-in requirements. I believe it was four semesters, unless the chapter wasn't at capacity. If the chapter wasn't at house capacity (60), you were required to start living-in the following school year, i.e. if you joined when you were a freshman, fall of your sophomore year and so on. Some people, such as myself, moved in sooner, I joined the fall of my freshman year and moved at semester. The chapter was never at capacity when I was a member so everyone always lived-in. The chapter also had a ranking order for if there were only like two or three slots available to move out how that would be determined as well.

ThetaPrincess24 12-02-2006 03:09 PM

My chapter (atleast at the time I was active) had a requirement to stay on the designated dorm floor for 5 semesters.

AlexMack 12-02-2006 03:18 PM

When I joined the only requirement was that the house be full. After this started becoming a problem, we instituted a livein requirement.
I didn't live in-house.

AchtungBaby80 12-02-2006 04:08 PM

We were supposed to live in for four semesters, I believe? Something like that. Most people really wanted to live in the house, though, so it usually wasn't a problem trying to fill it. That was also good for the girls who just didn't want to live in, because they could get out of the two-year requirement if the house was already full.

Tom Earp 12-02-2006 04:42 PM

We require our President to live in house. It is also required for members to live in house for 1 year. But if the house is full, there is no need. Usually the need is to keep the house full and per bed costs to be comparable to all other housing.

It is after all the focal point of any Greek Organization.:D

Eirbear 12-02-2006 04:50 PM

We have a small house (holds 9 women), a President's apartment, and a dorm floor. Even with all of that, we have more women in our sorority than can fit in the affiliated areas. Our requirement is that sorority housing MUST be filled. I believe it just works out that pretty much all the sophomores live in an affiliated area (mostly the floor), then there are a few juniors on the Floor (mostly, the juniors who want to live in sorority housing live in the house), and the President and the sister of her choice lives in the apartment. There's no quarter requirement...as long as we have people volunteering to live in sorority housing, those who want to get student apartments are usually free to do so.

Tex1899 12-02-2006 04:59 PM

My fraternity has a chapter that gets their pledges, once they initiate, to sign a 2-year lease; they're 18 so it's a legal document. Their house capacity is 92, too. They probably overdid it when they expanded the house in '89...probably should have put capacity around 75.

We have a dormant chapter that had a 5 semester live-in requirement. That got them in the house more often than not for 3 full years.

We have another chapter that has I think a 5 or 6 semester live-in requirement. The house once held 75, but now it's rated for I think 51 or 52. Each fall they pledge only 17 (17x3=51).

The only drawback I see to having a 2+ year live-in requirement is usually the seniors aren't involved with the chapter, either by choice or because the "chapter" is the "house (ie who's living in the chapter house)."

knitsnpurls 12-02-2006 05:02 PM

We are not required to live in the house at my chapter. However, our house can only hold 41 girls out of 130+, so there's always more girls who want to live in the house than actually can. On my campus, all members of a sorority are required to have mealplans at their house though, regardless of where they live.

aephi alum 12-02-2006 05:44 PM

When I was an undergrad, only two sororities had houses, and mine wasn't one of them.

The first sorority had quite a large house, so pretty much every non-freshman had to live there in order to keep it at capacity.

The second sorority got a smaller house. They had an interesting way of doing housing. Certain officers had to live in-house. They filled the other spots by offering them to the sisters - first the seniors, then the juniors, then the sophomores (freshmen weren't eligible to live in-house). They had a rule that if any spot in the house went unfilled, then all sisters who were eligible to live in-house but chose not to, had to split the cost of that empty spot. (AFAIK, they've never had to invoke this rule.) So no one, except for the President and a couple of other officers, was ever forced to live in-house.

My chapter now has a house, but I don't know what live-in requirements they've adopted.

AnchorAlumna 12-02-2006 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1365372)
It is after all the focal point of any Greek Organization.:D

I disagree, Tom. We have plenty of chapters that have no attached residential area - those with chapter rooms only, and even a few chapters with nothing but a storage room for records and ritual equipment.
The focal point of any Greek organization should, I think, be the friendships that you build through it.

Sister Havana 12-02-2006 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1365372)
It is after all the focal point of any Greek Organization.:D

Not necessarily. Certainly not for Alpha Phi Omega, whose bylaws forbid chapters to have houses. (You're a Brother, you should know that!)

Elephant Walk 12-02-2006 10:06 PM

Ours is suppose to be two years, but if people have financial reasons for not moving in, they're acceptable. I luckily have my own room, as do everyone but the spring pledges from last year and some of the holdovers.

twinkle555 12-02-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1365344)
I have been curious about this ever since I met a girl who is in a sorority at a school where they have residential houses, but don't REQUIRE girls to live there.

Does/did your chapter require you to live in the chapter house (or dorm floor/suite/whatever)? How long?

I know personally my chapter has a two semester live-in requirement. The chapter house had to be full, and most of the time that's not a problem because we have an adequate number of girls asking to move in.


we require girls to live in the house for a year. but i think if you have financial reasons or you own ur own house and show proof, you can be exempt.

flirt5721 12-02-2006 10:30 PM

My chapter requires at least 2 semester but longer if the house is not filled.

ufdale 12-02-2006 11:04 PM

My sorority has a house (as do all of UF's sororities). I'm not sure what capacity is (maybe 40 or so?) but we're NOT required to live in the house. Most girls live in the house as sophomores though and a lot want to live in the house, so the house is full. I have a house here in Gainesville (and a dog), so it wouldn't be possible for me to live in the house. Although I think having a house and dinners brings chapters together, I'm really happy we aren't required to live in.

irishpipes 12-02-2006 11:34 PM

I think my chapter's only requirement was that the house be full. The Leadership Council officers had to live in the house. Our house had a capacity of 66, and the chapter had about 180 members. We also have an incredible location right on the quad, and the dorms and apartments were a pretty far walk, so we never had a problem filling the house. Many girls never lived in.

Drolefille 12-03-2006 01:25 AM

My sister's TriDelta house requires two years of live in unless you're from this city. In that case you can live at home or in the house.

I'm not sure if the two years rule is set or if it's just that seniors can live out of the house.

ISUmatt 12-03-2006 04:06 PM

We have capacity for 32 in our house, and minus our 5 exec board, that leaves room for 27. Even though over the last 3 semesters we have rushed about 100 guys total, we had an issue with signing leases for next year. One of the problems was rushing a lot of older guys that already have signed leases for their junior year next year. We have a system in place to decide who has to live in first and we put it to use for the first time in a long time. Long story short, we're still down 5 leases but worked something out in order to put off filling the remaining leases until spring rush.

lbk_kpd 12-04-2006 09:46 AM

Our only requirements for housing are that our president, vice president, and new member educator must live in the house, and the house must be full. Since we're in NYC, all Greek housing is owned by the university and consists of high-rise penthouses and suites; if we don't fill our house, campus housing can either revoke our placement in that house and downgrade us to a smaller one, or fill the empty place with a non-Greek from the housing list....crazy, but they've definitely done it before. We usually don't have too big of a problem filling our housing, but we have several sisters who commute to campus and so they are ineligiable for any kind of university housing, including Greek housing, so sometimes it gets a little tight. Basically, the way we determine who will live in is by seniority; the oldest (by scroll order) active sister eligiable to live in decides if she would like to, then the next oldest, etc...if there is an issue, it's usually on the youngest sisters to live in to make up the required number.

ISUKappa 12-04-2006 12:28 PM

At my undergrad chapter, you were required to live in unless the house was at capacity. The house held 65; total at campus at that time was 92 so all sophomores and juniors lived in with most of the seniors living in as well. Freshman could move in right away if there was space -- I moved in second semester of my freshman year and lived in until I graduated.

At the chapter I advise, members must live in two years unless the house is at capacity. Sometimes there are extinuating circumstances, but those are rare and must have a written letter from a Doctor or other specialist stating the circumstances. House capacity is 52-54 (depending on whether the President wants to live in her suite in the basement) and chapter total is 110 on campus. Almost all freshman and seniors live out. If there is availability for more women to live out, there is a points system that determines who would be extended that opportunity first. All chapter officers except two must live in.

adpiucf 12-04-2006 12:53 PM

Certain officers had to live in. Once those spots were filled, there were probably under 20 beds to fill. Priority was given to other officers, and then was based on grades and our merit points system. There were rarely problems to fill the house, b/c only 1/3 of our chapter could physically "live-in." In the event there was an open room in the fall or spring, a new member often wanted to break her residence hall lease to move in so we never really had an issue. There were a few cases where threats were made that the house was not going to fill and members would be "required" to live-in, but it really never came down to that and we always managed to fill up the house.

Where I advised in LA, the girls had a one-year live-in requirement that had to be fulfilled to keep their membership. But living in the house was heavily promoted throughout the year and an expecation that came with joining, so it wasn't a really big issue, again, to fill the house.

angelove 12-04-2006 03:46 PM

I don't know how it is now, but back in the day my chapter had about 150 sisters and a house that would sleep about 50. Unless you or your parents owned a house or a condo or something in town (or if your name was already on a lease for the semester), you had to move into the house once you were in line to fill a vacancy. Once you moved in, you were in for good. So all of the seniors had to live in, which was good because they stayed involved. Once they graduated, sisters from the next pledge class would have to move in - vacancies were filled in order of initiation. Pledges couldnt live in. Certain higher-level officers had to live in, but the way the system worked they would usually have been living in the house anyway.

WVU alpha phi 12-04-2006 04:40 PM

Exec board is required to live in the house during their term and I think there may be 2 or 3 positions that aren't on Exec, but are still required to live in. Our house can hold 26 girls, so this leaves open about 18 or 19 spaces. We instituted a year live in requirement starting with this year's pledge class, so I believe next year's hose will be full of mostly younger girls within the sorority. However, older girls will get priority to live there above a younger girl if they want to live in the house (the house is almost always all sophomores and juniors with maybe one or two seniors).

SkullandHeart 04-07-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ISUmatt (Post 1365644)
We have capacity for 32 in our house, and minus our 5 exec board, that leaves room for 27. Even though over the last 3 semesters we have rushed about 100 guys total, we had an issue with signing leases for next year. One of the problems was rushing a lot of older guys that already have signed leases for their junior year next year. We have a system in place to decide who has to live in first and we put it to use for the first time in a long time. Long story short, we're still down 5 leases but worked something out in order to put off filling the remaining leases until spring rush.

If you have a 100+ member house, you more than likely have pledge classes in the 20-30s (if not more). Also, with such a number of brothers, no one wants to live in?

Working out something with the owners of the place is a short term answer, unless other changes are made in regard to requiring new members to live in (and telling them this before they join) and making the house more attractive to live in. If all you use the house to is party in, and less of an actual home...it will be less attractive to live in. Start by making small house improvements and work from there. People will see the house improving and want to live in (i swear we had the same problem and now people are trying to get our of their leases).

Create a list of things that people want/need that goes w/ house improvments. Divide them into drinking related things (IE nicer party area, new stripper poll, bar, etc) and non drinking related things (common room, new fridges, study room, etc)

After that list them into the cost that they would take to get done, this summer talk to your alumni board and have a professional looking proposal with what you'd like to get done (one major, 2 minor things).

Send out a massive email to alumni w/ all your accomplishments and things the chapter is doing. Than explain how the house is substandard compared to other things your achieving. Possibly have alumni day earlier next year so that they donate funds earlier.

We had the exact same problems, and this is a long term solution and is so far working amazing for us. We started doing a major project once a year. We now have a brand new chapter room, and new common room (w/ flat screen), a study room (5 desks, table, and computer), and will have a kitchen w/ cook this summer.

I'm also part of and an ISU chapter and am familiar w/ your guy's situation....I think it's exactly the problem we were having about 4 years ago. We were broke as fuck, and got all of this accomplished...it just takes some time and organization. It will help w/ not only that, but will help w/ retention and getting people to live in.

texas*princess 04-07-2007 01:58 PM

I believe our old house had around 25 spots to fill. Some of the officers (president, rest of exec board, property manager, and some of the other ones that I don't remember) were required to live-in.

We had a live in requirement of 1 year, but there were some exceptions (owned house, lived with parents close by, RA, can't remember the other ones.)

The live-in requirement was only really enforced when there were spots to fill. Many times girls had already lived their 1-year requirement but chose to stay 2 or even 3 years just because they wanted to... so as long as the house was full, we didn't bust out our list of people who had not fulfilled their requirement. I remember only one time that we had to do that, but luckily we had some sisters step up to the plate and live in the house that prevented what could have become a crazy situation.

I think it is so much easier to get the newer girls to live in the house when they are younger and just joined the sorority because the older people have already done the sorority thing for a few years and want a place of their own. And as much fun as it can be live in the sorority house, its hard to move from having your own room & own apartment to moving in with 24 other girls.

Tom Earp 04-07-2007 02:26 PM

Unless a house is a shack much like our old house, members should live in the house but with the above exceptions. We even had Brothers who were townies who lived in the house as it was the life blood of any organization.

If as some schools have no houses, they are used to say dorm floors set aside as at FT in Melborne, Fl. it was accepted practice.

But a house needs to be full to pay for it, keep it up, and be comfortable for the members.

A one year requirement is not so bad is it?:)

Walking across campus, you run into a Brother/Sister, hey what are you doing and where are you going?

The House!:)

BigRedBeta 04-08-2007 10:54 AM

Most people wanted to live in the chapter house, so we usually had the opposite problem where some juniors were forced to live out simply because we didn't have the room.

Our executive officers are all required to live in the house during their term, but it's rare for anyone to move ever move out at semester, and so they get another year in. That's the only way seniors get to live in their fourth year unless there are some really weird circumstances.

khlkcca 04-08-2007 02:52 PM

All members were required to live in house unless they lived with parents. I could be wrong but my impression during rush was that most sororities at Purdue had the same rule. This was in the mid 90's.

banditone 04-08-2007 03:16 PM

From what I remember, heres how we filled the house (34 spots)

Brothers - got first choice on their room, and then it went by badge number if 2 wanted the same room, and didn't want to room with each other.
Candidates- that wanted to live in the house were just tossed in where needed. I lived with an active my first semester.
Still Not full - After the above, if the house was still not full, it would be by highest badge number. If you had a valid reason you couldn't live in, then it went to next highest badge number.

I don't recall us having much of a problem filling the house, mostly due to the guys that just DID NOT want to live in-house never had to worry due to candidates usually wanting to get in.

I lived in house all 4 yours and loved it. It wasn't the best thing for my grades, but ohh well, I'm out and have a good job so that's all that matters.


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