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Any NASCAR fans on here?
Am I the only NASCAR fan on GC?
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:D :D nope! I am a big NASCAR fan! I'm going to Bristol this March.
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Nope - there are others. There's another thread somewhere about Nascar, but its been awhile.
I am a HUGE Tony Stewart fan - have been from the very moment he was announced as the driver of the Home Depot #20 PONTIAC (yeah, I am an original fan - no band wagon for me). My orange cat is named "Twenty" and my car is named "Zippy" - Tony thought I was crazy when I met him & showed him a picture of my cat, but he thought it was pretty funny. I am so very proud of Denny Hamlin for his #3 place in the points for his rookie year - would have LOVED to see him take the championship, but at least February is just around the corner. :cool: |
I like Tony, I also pull for the 8.
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I absolutely despise Ryan Newman, both Buschy boys, and Robbie Gordon - the sport would be a lot better off without any of them. I swear that Ryan Newman would pin Hurricane Katrina on Tony if he could figure out a way to do it. I have seen countless interviews where Ryan calls him out and Tony was literally nowhere around -- when the announcers tell Ryan this, he mumbles that Tony had something to do with it. Punk :rolleyes: |
Personally, I like cars that turn both ways.
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I think NASCAR is doing everything it can to eliminate the success of Jr, and any of the old school racers for that matter. NASCAR is doing its best to pull away from its southern base, which completely sucks, given that the best tracks are in the south (Atlanta, Talladega, Charlotte, Daytona, Bristol). I still think Jr. will probably win a couple championships before he's done, but I also think that if he had a Hendrix engine shop, he'd already have one. In my opinion, the best drivers, based on ability, not team, are...
1) Stewart (hands down) 2) Gordon/Junior (Gordon is a smarter driver, but Junior does things that Jeff couldn't dream of doing in a racecar) 3) Hamlin (face it kids, he's good) 4) Kenseth (annoying, but smart) 5) Biffle (most boring driver ever) 6) Harvick The following would be pretty terrible without a good team backing them: 1) Johnson (whiny bitch, WILL NOT win with less than a great car) 2)Kahne (hopefully he'll get better, but he's timid, and its getting a little pathetic) 3) Kyle Busch (will probably kill someone, I have no idea how such an inept driver made it to Cup racing) |
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I am a HUGE Tony Stewart fan - have been from the very moment he was announced as the driver of the Home Depot #20 PONTIAC (yeah, I am an original fan - no band wagon for me). My orange cat is named "Twenty" and my car is named "Zippy" - Tony thought I was crazy when I met him & showed him a picture of my cat, but he thought it was pretty funny. [QUOTE] AXOAlum, wanna be friends? :) Tony is my absolute favorite! I first met him at the Indy 500 in 2000, and I've been a huge fan ever since. The hub and I even went to Columbus, IN for the parade after he won the Brickyard last year! We live near Eldora, the track he owns and go there alot for the races. I agree w/ shinerbock about Jimmie Johnson. What a whiny snot. I have serious issues about the fact that Knauss was suspended for cheating before Daytona, and he still was eligible to win the Cup. I'm also anti-Busch brothers, Gordons, and Carl Edwards. |
I'll admit..I am a Jr. fan! I have a cardboard cut-out of him, various t-shirts, coasters in my car that have the 8 on them, floor mats and a cd visor with the 8 on them..I even have a tire pressure checker that is Dale Jr. I've always cheered for him though..even before Sr. died. My prize possession is a lug nut from Jr's pit at Pocono. I like Tony as well. The new tradition of climbing the fences is awesome. I hate anything Hendrick..Brian Vickers (who is now Team Red Bull) needs to be beaten for taking out Johnson who then took out Jr. who was winning last lap at the fall Talladega race...Denny Hamlin is a great driver! He has shown a lot of promise in his rookie year. OK...I've gone on enough for now:p :o
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Gordon is my driver and has been since his rookie year in 93'. Though I think Stewart is the best driver in NASCAR today, because he can win at every track, I still have to stick with Gordon. Gordon has NASCAR records that will more than likely never be beaten. When Gordon retires, I'm switching to Kyle Busch.
I am a NASCAR nut. I've been watching NASCAR since I was 6 yrs old, back when they only showed highlights of the races. I can tell you guys who won the championship from the beginning 1948-2006. 1948-Red Byron 1949-Red Byron 1950-Bill Rexford (Youngest NASCAR champion. He won it at age 23) 1951-Herb Thomas 1952-Tom Flock 1953-Herb Thomas 1954-Lee Petty 1955-Tim Flock 1956-Buck Baker 1957-Buck Baker 1958-Lee Petty 1959-Lee Petty-won the 1st Daytona 500 1960-Rex White 1961-Ned Jarrett 1962-Joe Weatherly 1963-Joe Weatherly 1964-Richard Petty 1965-Ned Jarrett 1966-David Pearson 1967-Richard Petty 1968-David Pearson 1969-David Pearson 1970-Bobby Isaac 1971-Richard Petty 1972-Richard Petty 1973-Benny Parsons 1974-Richard Petty 1975-Richard Petty 1976-Cale Yarborough 1977-Cale Yarborough 1978-Cale Yarborough 1979-Richard Petty 1980-Dale Earnhardt 1981-Darrell Waltrip 1982-Darrell Waltrip 1983-Bobby Allison 1984-Terry Labonte 1985-Darrell Waltrip 1986 Dale Earnhardt 1987-Dale Earnhardt 1988-Bill Elliot 1989-Rusty Wallace 1990-Dale Earnhardt 1991-Dale Earnhardt 1992-Allen Kulwicki 1993-Dale Earnhardt 1994-Dale Earnhardt 1995-The Man (Jeff Gordon) 1996-Terry Labonte 1997-The Man (Jeff Gordon) 1998- The Man (Jeff Gordon) He got 13 wins that year. No one can top that now. 1999- Dale Jarrett 2000-Bobby Labonte 2001-The Man (Jeff Gordon) 2002-Tony Stewart 2003-Matt Kenseth 2004-Kurt Busch 2005-Tony Stewart 2006-Jimmy Johnson O.K. I was bored just thought I would put that out there. I love NASCAR.:p |
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I don't think they'd take away Dega, but about twice a year, some yankee-ass NASCAR writer presents the idea of going to only one race a year at each of the restrictor plates. Its really gotten to the point where NASCAR likes everything to do with the sport, except for the actual racing part. It baffles me. People will say things like "well, those tracks allow you to draft and provide for lead changes..." Of course they do, thats part of racing. Despite the opinions of the France family and Helton, racing at low speed-low banked tracks does not constitute some purer form of racing. It allows the best car to win, and places the emphasis on the shop rather than the driver. Unfortunately for drivers I like, this usually favors Hendrix. Obviously having a good car is important, but at restrictor plate tracks or places like Atlanta or Bristol, you're generally not gonna win the race simply by having a good car. If you can't draft or pass, you're gonna have a tough time winning at Daytona/Dega/Atlanta regardless of how good your car is.
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I always make it to at least one of the Michigan races each year. Would love to go to Martinsville or Bristol at some point. Had Bristol tickets in my hand for the daytime race this year but couldn't get the days off to travel down and back. Also.... although I am a "yankee" the sport needs to keep it's southern roots. Darlington and North Wilkesboro were great race tracks. |
Well, you still have some of that. I think guys like Tony Stewart and Gordon can still drive anything, although Gordon really hasn't shown much in the past few years as far as racing brilliance, but then he hasn't had to. The big question I've had for a while is whether Robbie Gordon would succeed on a good team. He may know more about cars than anyone else in Cup, and he is supposedly a jack of all trades when it comes to racing. However, it seems like he would outperform his equipment if he was really that talented.
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I have to agree w/ Thrillhouse-I'm a "Yankee", but I would rather watch 100 races at Bristol or Talledega than one at Chicagoland or Phoenix. Martinsville and Bristol are my favorite tracks-we try to hit at least one race at each a year. I'm really interested in how Elliott Sadler is going to do this year. Everyone is saying that he just needed the right team to be a contender, so hopefully Evernham will do that for him. I think he's a really great guy, so I hope it works out, but I'm not really all that sure. Plus Ray seems to have put all of his eggs in one basket w/ Kahne, so I wonder if there's extra energy to spare for Elliott. |
Yeah, I had an inkling that it wasn't in Talladega. We get lost just about every time we go, which results in me drinking at 8am while we wander around rural Alabama.
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Losing both races at the Rock was pitiful - I'm just glad that Charlotte got the museum!! |
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Hey NASCAR fans!
I decided to bump this thread for the start of the 2007 season. I just got done setting up a Yahoo fantasy auto racing team and made my initial picks for the Auto Club 500. But, check this, I'm not a NASCAR fan. I don't know much about how it all works and, when asked, I say, "I'm rooting for the Army car" (which, yeah, that answer worked out really well for me on Sunday!). The only reason I pay any attention at all is because my roommates all do the NASCAR fantasy team thing and last year I had to put up with my roomies' agonizing over their picks and/or their drivers' performance. So, I decided to see what would happen if a totally uninformed person (me) started jabbing at the list of drivers. LOL, I'll probably have to learn *real* fast! Wish me luck! .....Kelly :) |
Sadler is a good driver not getting enough attention from his team. I don't think he's top 5, but he's probably one of the best 15 pure drivers in Cup racing.
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I've got Sadler on my team and he's on deck for Sunday. I feel pretty good about my picks except for a choice between Saulter and Ragan.
I hear Ragan likes to wreck things; but, when he's on, he's on. Also, he's a part of Roush Racing which is meant to be a good team, right? Plus, he's driving a Ford and I hear that's the popular winner at Fontana. Hrm...but I had a gut instinct about Saulter. I shortlisted him to run, I found out that a few pro picks and I agreed on that. I think I'm going to run Saulter and wait to see how Ragan handles the first few races. .....Kelly :) |
I would take Ragan, but thats a tough call. California is a tough track to judge, the west coast tracks favor having a good car more than being a good driver. Slow, insignificant draft (low banking), more separation, less passing, etc...that kind of stuff usually favors whoever's crew puts together the best set up.
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I am a HUGE nascar fan but will miss the Brickyard because I will be at Convention:( . I do a Fantasy Racing League.
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The only teams I like are Rick Hendrick's. The only team that I think is close to his as far as really good drivers is Jack Roush's drivers. Dale Jr. is way over rated. O.K. but over rated. RCR's last good driver was Big E. Harvick is average, and Burton is RCRs best driver right now. I pick Kenseth to win at California next week.
When I look at Gordon's stats, he's probably the last driver that will have stats like that for a very long time. In fact, I don't think any driver will. I've been a fan of his since his rookie year and I've never seen a driver better than him with the exception of Richard Petty. |
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Well I don't think its fair to compare Junior to Gordon. I think Junior is as talented of a driver as Gordon, but Gordon makes better decisions and has the benefit of a better team. Its like comparing Junior to his dad or Petty. 17 wins is a pretty good amount, and I highly suspect he'll win a championship at some point in the not too distant future.
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That's just it. Dude, I compare Junior to Gordon because ever since Gordon moved up to Cup level racing, Big E fans hated him as soon as he started winning. The reason why they hated him is because he was beating the Intimidator. I'm always in debate with Jr. fans, because they hate Gordon, and they don't have any reason other than the fact that he's one of the best.
Jr. fans are only converted Big E fans. It's funny but when Gordon spun Kenseth out at Chicagoland last season he got booed and beer cans were thrown at him. Whenever Big E would spin someone out they loved him for it. He got a lot of his wins by wrecking someone else. I think that's the wrong way to win. I would hate to see what would happen if Gordon spun Jr. out. He would definitely get death threats just like Vickers did at Dega. When I wear my 24 hat, a Jr. fan wearing an 8 bandanna or something like that will say "Gordon sucks!" I always ask them how many championships has Jr. won? And if Gordon sucks with 75 wins 80 million in winnings alone, more than any driver in NASCAR history (not including his endorsements) 3 Daytona 500s, 4 championships, and more road course wins than any driver including the King himself, then Jr. shouldn't even be racing with 17 wins and 0 championships. Don't get me wrong, I like Jr. and your right he's a damn good driver and if he was with a better team he probably would have won a championship by now. But I just think he's way over rated. He's only NASCAR's most popular driver because he's the son of the Intimidator. I agree, 17 wins is great, but he's treated like he's GOD's gift to NASCAR. Well, he's not, at least not with those stats. I like Jr. He's awesome, but I don't like his fan base. Most of them are hypocrites. I know you're a Jr. fan and based on your posts I don't think you're a hypocrite or anything, because you know quite a bit about the sport. I'm talking about the ones who don't, and then disrespect Jeff. That's all. Nothing against Junior or anyone on GC who are Jr. fans.:D |
I can understand that. I mean, I didn't really like his dad that much. I was actually a pretty big Gordon fan when I was younger, but like a lot of people his issues with Brooke and the whining turned me off.
I'm not really the average Junior fan, but I still dislike Gordon as they do. I mean, what do you expect. You've got a beer sponsored, gutsy driving guy who could quit and go work at his dad's dealership vs. a hollywood type, high pitched voice guy with a yankee accent. I'm not as into the rivalry as most people, but I understand where they're coming from Side note, a lot of the intensity came from that Dega race a few years ago before we had green white checkered. |
Hey,
May I ask you fellas a question? You all seem to know a bit and, as I mentioned earlier, I am totally new to this. I'm participating in yahoo fantasy auto racing and I went to check on my picks today. I'm wondering if either of you could explain how the points system works. For example, I've got Khane on my team as an A driver. When I clicked the chart symbol next to his name last week, it showed him as being owned by 8% of players for some 77 points. Today, it's showing 23% of players own him for 5 points. See here: http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/players/396 How does this work? :confused: I tried reading the instructions/rules but I'm still not sure what the chart is really telling me. If he does well, does this mean I'll get less points because everybody else was playing him too? Ah well, we'll see how I do tomorrow! .....Kelly :) |
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If you really want have fun try playing the NASCAR sim on the computer or XBox. It's so real and so much fun. Denny Hamlin & Jr. actually play the same sim. I'm in the middle of a season right now with my own team. You'll actually learn a lot from the sim. |
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Have you seen the car of tomorrow yet? I think it looks cool as a road coarse car but not an actual oval track car. |
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Well, the way it works, is I get points based on how my active drivers place in each race. A maximum of 90 pts is awarded for 1st place and then 2 points less for each placement after that (88 for 2nd, 86 for 3rd, etc). There are also bonus points for leading laps and for being top 4 after qualifying. So yeah, Top 5s and 10s will bank points. But ah ha...I think I just figured it out after staring at it for a while. :o I think the charts are showing how many fanstasy points the players earned last week. The puny little points currently posted for this week reflect the bonus points earned from qualifying yesterday. Duh. :rolleyes: Thank you for trying to help. I'd have asked my roommates, but one is out of town and the other is returning from Iraq on Tuesday! .....Kelly :) |
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bold - drivers active for this race Kahne - earned bonus pts for 2nd qual. Kenseth Sadler Martin - earned bonus pts for 3rd qual. Gilliland Montoya Sauter Ragan I "broke the rules" and decided not to run any Ford cars. Due to Kahne and Martin's performance on Friday, I've already got some points on the board; I hope they come through for me tomorrow. .....Kelly :) <--- wants to embarass her NASCAR roommates with some beginner's luck. |
Can't help you, i'm clueless with fantasy stuff.
I just don't like drivers who constantly bitch whenever something goes wrong. One reason a lot of people like Junior is that he very rarely blames anyone but himself. Tony used to be bad, but he seems to be getting better. Some drama makes for entertaining post race. I'm not very impressed with the COTF, we'll see how it all shakes out. |
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I'm not surprised that you don't like the COT. No one does it seems like. The drivers hate it too. It looks pretty cool. Boxy but cool. I think Stewart will adapt to it the quickest. |
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