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RU OX Alum 10-27-2006 11:50 AM

The Current State of Rock Music
 
Rock music sucked for a long time. In college there was hardly any rock at all, except for student bands, who although they tried (sometimes) they usualy sucked and instead of being a good band about it and get better they blamed each other and would break up.

However, while i think music on the wholle, especially rock with all these emo pop punk wannabe bands. Seriously wtf is Blue October? That song has a violin. If they were cool, they would have had a viola. A violin is a poseur viola. Anyway, I do think some bands are good:

for example, I'm digging Kasabian, and The Bravery. Actually, here is the list of cool bands besides those two right now: The Killers, Muse, Black Crowes, Franz Ferdinand, Keane, Beck, Foo Fighters. Everyone else is either broken up or on hiatus or whatever. Oh yeah, Green Day.

Kurt Cobain is God.

AlexMack 10-27-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1346990)
Rock music sucked for a long time. In college there was hardly any rock at all, except for student bands, who although they tried (sometimes) they usualy sucked and instead of being a good band about it and get better they blamed each other and would break up.

However, while i think music on the wholle, especially rock with all these emo pop punk wannabe bands. Seriously wtf is Blue October? That song has a violin. If they were cool, they would have had a viola. A violin is a poseur viola. Anyway, I do think some bands are good:

for example, I'm digging Kasabian, and The Bravery. Actually, here is the list of cool bands besides those two right now: The Killers, Muse, Black Crowes, Franz Ferdinand, Keane, Beck, Foo Fighters. Everyone else is either broken up or on hiatus or whatever. Oh yeah, Green Day.

Kurt Cobain is God.

Pretty good taste. I will never defer my favourite band of alltime, Coldplay. Lately I've been listening to a lot of Snow Patrol, Muse and Keane as well. I am a sucker for a piano-driven song.
On the other side, I'm also really into Nine Inch Nails, Static-X, some Slipknot, Disturbed, Buckcherry.
I also throw some techno in (I'm european, it's a rule that you have to like techno!).
Scissor Sisters is a new pickup for me and David Hasselhoff has a new single that makes me laugh everytime I hear it.
I'm about to kill The Fray, not gonna lie. And what the hell is up with U2? Those poseur sellouts just produce song after song that sounds the same.

ZTAngel 10-27-2006 12:04 PM

Music has sucked in general lately. I would love to write letters to all my local radio stations asking them to stop playing songs from that crappy excuse for a band Nickelback.

Drolefille 10-27-2006 12:05 PM

I finally got over myself in college and acknowledged that I can like whatever I want to like. Thus if I happen to like a pop song (it does happen occasionally) or a emo-esque song, it's ok. I am a big fan of Blue October but I don't try to say they're "Rock" per se.

Thus I have very eclectic tastes (and downloads) with some from the majority of the bands that you guys listed :D but also some from ones that I wouldn't have been caught dead listening to.

/can't get into hiphop/rap
//ok except I do like Eminem, guilty as charged.

KSig RC 10-27-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1346990)
Rock music sucked for a long time. In college there was hardly any rock at all, except for student bands, who although they tried (sometimes) they usualy sucked and instead of being a good band about it and get better they blamed each other and would break up.

However, while i think music on the wholle, especially rock with all these emo pop punk wannabe bands. Seriously wtf is Blue October? That song has a violin. If they were cool, they would have had a viola. A violin is a poseur viola. Anyway, I do think some bands are good:

for example, I'm digging Kasabian, and The Bravery. Actually, here is the list of cool bands besides those two right now: The Killers, Muse, Black Crowes, Franz Ferdinand, Keane, Beck, Foo Fighters. Everyone else is either broken up or on hiatus or whatever. Oh yeah, Green Day.

Kurt Cobain is God.

OK I'll edit so I'm not such a dick about this . . . there is tons of great music around, but if you're going to take the "FUCK THE RADIO" stance, you can't really sit back and bitch when it doesn't deliver to you.

If you like the Bravery, you'll probably like The Faint. If you like Franz Ferdinand, you'll probably like The Futureheads. If you like Keane, you're probably a woman. If you like punk rock, the new album by the Thermals is absolutely tremendous. If you like Muse, try TV on the Radio - this is not a difficult game. Also, I don't think any of these bands fall under the category of "rock" per se. . .

If you want to rock, pay the $10 and get "Boys and Girls In America" by the Hold Steady. Tell me that's not the best rock album in years . . .

I realize that I'm kind of the resident semi-hipster music douche. That's fine - but it's simply awful to decry 'the state of music' like it's really any lower than any other time. In fact, fuck it - download these five tracks, and tell me 'modern music' sucks:

-Califone, "The Orchids"
-Monsieur Leroc, "Cooley McCoolsen"
-Man Man, "Van Helsing Boombox"
-Killer Mike, "That's Life"
-Junior Boys, "In the Morning"

Those five tracks couldn't be more different, there's literally a song from every style but country (and I have some Bright Eyes tracks for you if that's your shit). Seriously - download, enjoy, and stop.

shinerbock 10-27-2006 12:46 PM

Killer Mike- Thats Life

----Case over, music sucks.

So far people have mentioned 3 bands I like: Buckcherry, Black Crowes and The Killers.

KSig RC 10-27-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1347025)
Killer Mike- Thats Life

----Case over, music sucks.

So far people have mentioned 3 bands I like: Buckcherry, Black Crowes and The Killers.

You're kidding me, right? That song has a line where he says "ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?" while mocking Martha Stewart for being a crook - this is genius, even if you hate the music.

Buckcherry is absolutely awful, but the Crowes make up for it.

shinerbock 10-27-2006 12:58 PM

Its genius? He's a moron who believes he's intelligent. The sad part is that he's more intelligent than his colleagues. If you want intelligent and witty rap, Outkast is the best there is.

Buckcherry is terrible, unless you like actual rock, which I do. Cocaine inspired guitar riffs=my style.

Dionysus 10-27-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1347003)
/can't get into hiphop/rap
//ok except I do like Eminem, guilty as charged.

Racismismismismismismism!!!!11

mulattogyrl 10-27-2006 01:04 PM

^^LOL

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1347025)
Killer Mike- Thats Life

----Case over, music sucks.

So far people have mentioned 3 bands I like: Buckcherry, Black Crowes and The Killers.

Hey I know Black Crowes! That's about all I can add to this thread. Good-bye.

Drolefille 10-27-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1347035)
Racismismismismismismism!!!!11

lol, no I just happen to like the beat to his music, and I tend to like the satirical bits.

I don't like the rap that has the annoying synthesizer sound, only talks about drinking/drugs/violence/sex, and I can't understand the words coming out of their mouths. I might get by with one of the three, but not all (which is all I hear on the radio)

I don't really buy music either, or download anymore. I borrow from friends or listen to the radio.

AlexMack 10-27-2006 01:37 PM

I've noticed there's a trend in my university's livejournal community. One person will say, 'what have you all been listening to lately?' and then it becomes a contest to see who can list the most obscure bands.
See, I don't care if you like my music or not. I like it and I listen to it. I like to stream BBC Radio One over the internet and I've discovered new music I like that way, stuff that doesn't come out over here.

Also, I'm pretty into a lot of Britpop. It's just my style. Editors is one of the rockingest bands ever, Embrace is give or take but does have some good stuff, Radiohead I'm pretty meh about, same for Zeppelin but it's all about the vocals with those guys. I just don't think Thom Yorke has a great singing voice which obscures my enjoyment. Same for listening to Zeppelin.

Paolo Nutini is one the new greats in my book, fun, folky and rocky with a Chris Martin-esque voice.

I'll try any new music recommended to me (thank god for bittorrent) but no one should just write today's music off. There are bands today that will go down in history. There are also bands that will be forgotten. For what it's worth, I don't like the Beatles, I don't think much of them. But I do respect them for their influence on music today.

EDIT: Also, I really like The Bravery, I think they're fab. I also mix it up with some Mike Doughtry and Augustana. Rock Kills Kid-not lyrically complex in any manifestation of the word, but very catchy tunes.

PhiMuAmberkins 10-27-2006 01:40 PM

The Beatles will always be the best. Case closed.

Drolefille 10-27-2006 01:44 PM

The key is to find a locally owned station. Midwest Family Broadcasting owns a bunch around here (Springfield, IL based mostly) Not only are they not bound by ClearChannel/record company rules but they also market their stations effectively. They have an excellent hard rock station, and, my favorite, one specifically aimed at women 18-35 or something. Seems to hit songs I like 85-90 percent of the time. And never ranges into the stuff I absolutely abhor. (It's not sappy music either) One of their stations also plays entire CDs late at night :)

Without that station I'm stuck flipping stations all the time.

macallan25 10-27-2006 01:48 PM

Mainstream rock now is God awful. How people can listen to Slipknot, Static X, NIN, etc. etc. is beyond me. I think its awful.

My Typical playlist:
Drive By Truckers
Black Crowes
Black Keys
Van Morrison
Velvet Underground
Widespread Panic
Old Crow Medicine Show
Leftover Salmon
Bruce Hornsby and the Range
Huey Lewis and the News
Talking Heads
Perpetual Groove
Phish
Chris Robinson and New Earth Mud
Hall and Oates
The Doors
Kenny Loggins
Robert Earl Keen
Corry Morrow
The Outlaws
Skynyrd
CSNY
Crosby Stills Nash
Alabama
Todd Rundgren
Allman Brothers
Phish
Umphrey's McGee
Old Schoo Rap
Slightly Stoopid
Bob Marley
Classics IV
Curtis Mayfield
Sam Bush
Eli Young Band
Sound Tribe
Medeski Martin and Wood
John Butler Trio
Galactic
Soulive
Greyhounds
Chris Knight
Steve Winwood
Traffic
Blind Faith
Cream
Spencer Davis Group
BB King
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Trey Anastasio
Muddy Waters
John Lee Hooker
Sammie Davis
Miles Davis/John Coltrane
ELO
Sammy Hagar

....plus many more. but I think you get my style of music.

shinerbock 10-27-2006 01:55 PM

I probably don't like as much jam as you do, and I can't really get into Eli Young, although I've tried. Good list, however.

33girl 10-27-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1347089)
My Typical playlist:
Huey Lewis and the News
Hall and Oates
Kenny Loggins

My God, you are one hard rocking dude. :p

Just teasing. I pretty much agree w/ everything on that list. Does Chris Robinson & NEM sound like the Black Crowes with different guys or is it a whole different sound?

I HATE Nickelback and all those other bands that sound like Creed/Pearl Jam ripoffs, and as far as the emo bands...there's nothing wrong w/ slow songs but back it up with some chops. It's like guys listened to Paula Cole because their girlfriends made them and then forgot to take it out of the CD player and started to like it. Yuck!

Drolefille is also right about finding locally owned stations. In teeny outlying markets, if at all possible. Pgh mainstream radio sucks, but there are stations in little Washington & Scottdale that I listen to all the time. Oh, and the listener supported station too, although if they get too wussy I need to change it for a while.

AlexMack 10-27-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1347089)
Mainstream rock now is God awful. How people can listen to Slipknot, Static X, NIN, etc. etc. is beyond me. I think its awful.

Static-X is just fun. The lead singer was quoted as saying that he didn't want to sing anymore, he just wanted to scream on their next albums. It's good for driving to.

NIN has been around almost 20 years, I'd hardly classify it in a 'kids these days :rolleyes:' category. You not liking music does not automatically make it god awful. It's just not your taste. Come on, tell me you didn't like the Johnny Cash cover of Hurt. Tell me.

shinerbock 10-27-2006 02:08 PM

Slipknot, haha. If you're gonna play 7 string, you might wanna try and learn to play on 6 first.

ISUKappa 10-27-2006 02:11 PM

Rob knows his shit, but that doesn't mean he's the be-all, end-all God of music (but if your tastes really and truly suck, you deserve to be mocked).

I think centaur has it spot on -- listen to what you like but don't write it all off. Try something new for a change. (And, FWIW, I feel the same way you do about the Beatles).

The husband listens to a lot of streaming radio at his work; one of his favorite stations is 99x out of Atlanta. The stations here don't have much variety, so he gets lot of his new music from them. I have extremely eccentric tastes in music. I know some of the bands I listen to are crap, but I don't care. I listen to them anyway.

valkyrie 10-27-2006 02:54 PM

House music all night long.

On another note, RU OX, I think you'd like Jaylib, J Dilla, and Gnarls Barkley, or at least you will if you have a soul. Also check out Mr. Oizo.

ETA: Macallan, are you like 45 years old?

macallan25 10-27-2006 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1347174)
House music all night long.

On another note, RU OX, I think you'd like Jaylib, J Dilla, and Gnarls Barkley, or at least you will if you have a soul. Also check out Mr. Oizo.

ETA: Macallan, are you like 45 years old?


No, 21.....why? Sorry I have good taste in music.


On a side note....I probobly have a broader range of music that I listen to and have in my collection than most people that I know.......so I have listened to about everything. ( I mean, I have about 38,000 songs on my computer.) I just think hardcore death metal like Slipknot, Static X, Cannibal Corpse, etc. is horrible music, not enjoyable, and really serves no purpose. The instrument playing is horrible and you can't distinguish anything apart from one another. I don't think the musicians have any talent whatsoever....so they make up for it with screaming loudly and playing the same chords over and over again as loud and hard as they possibly can. Of all of the hardcore metal that I have listened to....I'd probobly say Korn is the most talented. Atleast you can tell that they have people playing instruments that know what they are doing.

macallan25 10-27-2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1347104)
I probably don't like as much jam as you do, and I can't really get into Eli Young, although I've tried. Good list, however.


Yeah, I like Eli live alot more than his recorded stuff. I guess I try to get into new Texas type stuff as much as I can becasue there is so much of it. Paul Eason, Eleven Hundred Springs, Phil Pritchett and Honeybrowne are some of my favorites right now.

Also, have you ever heard of Virginia Coalition....I think you'd like them.

AlphaFrog 10-27-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1347188)
On a side note....I probobly have a broader range of music that I listen to and have in my collection than most people that I know......


I call myself a music schizo because my CD collection includes Frank Sinatra, Mozart Operas, The Smashing Pumpkins, Oasis, various Broadway musicals, Ashlee Simpson, Garth Brooks, etc...

Drolefille 10-27-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1347192)
I call myself a music schizo because my CD collection includes Frank Sinatra, Mozart Operas, The Smashing Pumpkins, Oasis, various Broadway musicals, Ashlee Simpson, Garth Brooks, etc...

Hey, you and I sound alike.

macallan25 10-27-2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1347192)
I call myself a music schizo because my CD collection includes Frank Sinatra, Mozart Operas, The Smashing Pumpkins, Oasis, various Broadway musicals, Ashlee Simpson, Garth Brooks, etc...

As do I. I love Frank, along with Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, etc. I don't download much of that Ashlee Simpson Billoboard top 40 crap........but its easy to get alot of it when you live in a fraternity house and constantly have girls downloading songs on your computer when pre-partying on the weekends.

AlphaFrog 10-27-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1347197)
I don't download much of that Ashlee Simpson Billoboard top 40 crap........

Ashlee and Kelly Clarkson are about the only ones I can handle. Ashlee because I can relate to a lot of her lyrics. Kelly because she's got a pretty powerful voice...too bad she's overplayed and I get sick of her often.

AlexMack 10-27-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1347192)
I call myself a music schizo because my CD collection includes Frank Sinatra, Mozart Operas, The Smashing Pumpkins, Oasis, various Broadway musicals, Ashlee Simpson, Garth Brooks, etc...

No, that's pretty much my collection too. There's very little I don't like. Naturally there are things I'm preferable to, but I'll listen to anything. I have a large collection of classical and opera, a lot of metal, a lot of techno, a bunch of top 40, a smattering of country and rap...I'm very eclectic.

shinerbock 10-27-2006 04:46 PM

I don't mind Kelly Clarkson, for the simple fact that she can flat out sing. I mean her songs mostly suck and she's a little MTV for my tastes, but she's got talent in a world of mediocre stars.

On another note, I didn't really mention, but I love some 90's stuff...Oasis, Counting Crows, Wallflowers...I also am a huge one/two hit wonder fan...semisonic, Stroke 9, stuff like that. I think in HS I saw live pretty much every band that had a hit song on 99x from 1994-2000...

As for Atlanta radio, I really like 97.1 The River, though it gets kind of repetitive. I'll listen to some Dave FM as well, since they're like the official Talking Heads station.

AlphaFrog 10-27-2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1347235)
I'll listen to some Dave...

When I started reading this sentance and came to "Dave", I was afraid maybe "Matthews Band" was going to follow. In which case you would have had to go on ignore. No other choice. DMB was pretty much the symbol for the lemmings at my highschool. About 75% of my class had DMB bumperstickers and t-shirts and all that good stuff (although I wonder how many of them could name 2 other DMB songs besides "Crash")....

RU OX Alum 10-27-2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1347018)
OK I'll edit so I'm not such a dick about this . . . there is tons of great music around, but if you're going to take the "FUCK THE RADIO" stance, you can't really sit back and bitch when it doesn't deliver to you.

If you like the Bravery, you'll probably like The Faint. If you like Franz Ferdinand, you'll probably like The Futureheads. If you like Keane, you're probably a woman. If you like punk rock, the new album by the Thermals is absolutely tremendous. If you like Muse, try TV on the Radio - this is not a difficult game. Also, I don't think any of these bands fall under the category of "rock" per se. . .

If you want to rock, pay the $10 and get "Boys and Girls In America" by the Hold Steady. Tell me that's not the best rock album in years . . .

I realize that I'm kind of the resident semi-hipster music douche. That's fine - but it's simply awful to decry 'the state of music' like it's really any lower than any other time. In fact, fuck it - download these five tracks, and tell me 'modern music' sucks:

-Califone, "The Orchids"
-Monsieur Leroc, "Cooley McCoolsen"
-Man Man, "Van Helsing Boombox"
-Killer Mike, "That's Life"
-Junior Boys, "In the Morning"

Those five tracks couldn't be more different, there's literally a song from every style but country (and I have some Bright Eyes tracks for you if that's your shit). Seriously - download, enjoy, and stop.


I never said "fuck the radio" but I'll never stop. Most music today sucks all ass.

by the way, here are some more to check out:

The Secret Machines
Clap Your Hands Say YEAH!
Theivery Corporation
The Strokes (if you haven't yet)
Tapes n' Tapes are good but haven't listened [actively] that much, they were just background music for a party i was at

Thanks for the tips, and I guess for not being a dick.

_Opi_ 10-28-2006 12:11 AM

Canadian Rock..well...ROCKS!!

There are alot of bands coming out from the north, and I never get to hear good music until I go back home..or Detroit (listen to 88.9X which plays alot of good rock music).

Right now, I've been playing the hell out of The Sam Roberts Band (Chemical City CD) and Our Lady Peace (Healthy in Paranoid Times). New Bands: Never Ending White Lights, City and Colour, Mobile, etc etc. *sigh* Two more months...

ROA, I love The Strokes. My little sister just gave me their CD.

KRC, I'll take your word for it and download..err...buy those songs :-)

PM_Mama00 10-28-2006 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_ (Post 1347368)
Canadian Rock..well...ROCKS!!

There are alot of bands coming out from the north, and I never get to hear good music until I go back home..or Detroit (listen to 88.9X which plays alot of good rock music).

Right now, I've been playing the hell out of The Sam Roberts Band (Chemical City CD) and Our Lady Peace (Healthy in Paranoid Times). New Bands: Never Ending White Lights, City and Colour, Mobile, etc etc. *sigh* Two more months...

ROA, I love The Strokes. My little sister just gave me their CD.

KRC, I'll take your word for it and download..err...buy those songs :-)

All I listen to is 89x and WRIF. I hate HATE Ludacris... I"ll listen to a few of his older songs, but all he sings about are girls and whores and smacking and shaking that ass. I want songs with depth and meaning. I know I'm in the minority by saying that I hate Outkast too. I don't think they're funny and their songs got way over played. Fergie? Wannabe Gwen. Nelly Furtado is a huge sellout but I'm starting to love her songs. Which is where I get into the whole, it's not the artist, it's the songs.

Except Panic At the Disco. I liked their songs, till I saw them on the MTV Video awards. What a bunch of tools. Why do all those Emo bands dress like that? They look stupid.


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