Three Hospitalized (Alcohol) at U of Central Florida
 

Police responding to a tip about a fraternity party found three students so drunk that they had to be hospitalized. Please note that although the news story alludes to possible "hazing," it also indicates that it's not known if the students were pledges. Apparently it's not known whether the students were old enough to drink legally. Consequently I think the wording of the article could have been a lot better. Still, an instance of get-them-to-the-hospital-now intoxication shouldn't be taken lightly.

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs..../61026020/1075


Edited to add:
A little more information:
According to WFTV, both the university and the police are investigating the incident:

http://www.wftv.com/news/10167991/detail.html

Excerpt:
In the meantime, the fraternity has been put on "organizational suspension," meaning no on or off campus parties, mixers, or intramurals. The charges are disorderly conduct, alcohol and hazing.

OUCH.

Not again.

When do they learn?:(

its really sad to see one of the strongest fraternities here on campus in so much trouble. Local news stations blow things out of proportion, so dont take everything they say literally.

question though, what do you guys think the consequences will be?

I don't think I've ever seen someone of legal age drink to the point of needing hospitalization.

I have, but they weren't too far into legal age.
Your point is well taken though. Most people's binge drinking years are from 18-21. I really think it's because younger people only see alcohol at parties and never get a chance to experience it responsibly. People think that since it's already illegal to have one drink, might as well have ten. I think it's crazy that the gov expects people to go off to college and wait till they're 21 (late junior/senior year) to drink! Prohibition breeds binge drinking.

Run for office and fix that. It can't be too hard to win an election in Florida judging by the folks representing them on the national scene :)

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A University of Central Florida fraternity is under investigation. Sigma Alpha Epsilon has been accused of hazing after three people were taken to the hospital. It's not the first time the frat house has been in hot water.

Accused by whom? It doesn't say.

"We don't know much about what happened to lead them to go to the hospital.

Hmmm...

The three students were treated and released. UCF will talk with doctors to see what made them so sick.

Treated? Treated with what? For what? What's the treatment for drunkeness? Hot coffee?

"Yes, sometimes history for a chapter is included in looking at an appropriate institutional response,"

It seems to be included when writing for a newspaper too. I don't know anything about SAE at UCF, but I know BAD reporting when I see it. These stories are loaded with unsubstantiated inuendos.

Jono

Judging from the following links seems as if there will be a hearing next Friday on this matter. Always more to follow.
http://www.wftv.com/news/10167991/detail.html

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs..../61026020/1075

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-florida

http://www.wesh.com/news/10166479/detail.html

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...tion-headlines

Thank You!

I'm not sure although I think this might be the last straw for SAE at UCF. About 3 years ago, there was an incident that SAE was suspended for which involved some pledges. I believe the story was posted on GC. Back when I was still at UCF, there was an incident with them and another fraternity and a drug ring. I know the other fraternity was suspended and I believe SAE was too. I remember the media going crazy over that story. They camped out in front of the fraternity houses and would harass Greeks when they were walking to class just so that they could get a quote. The media wasn't ever able to get the story right back then so I have little faith that the articles they're writing now are correct. Still, it doesn't look good for SAE. I know the University is really cracking down on Greek Park after having a number of hazing and risk management cases over the past couple of years.

yea i acctually know the pledges that were involved in the whole situation 3 years ago. they are currently brothers. But the media's facts are so incorrect and blown out of proportion. Theres a meeting on friday to see what UCF decides. Hopefully they will be able to keep their house, bc we've all seen the drama that UCF is STILL having with Pike and their house.

Media does tend to blow fraternity and sorority events out of wack when shit hits the fan...

Damn media....

I'm not saying who's right and who's wrong in this situation but...

if fraternities and sororities didn't give the media something to talk about, there wouldn't be this problem.

Bingo, Bingo!

"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time..."

I have to agree as well. The only time I have ever seen/heard of a dorm problem was a few years ago when one had a fire. And the school and policies became the story.

So I just watched Orlando's news (my "local" news even though I live 2hrs away) about the fraternity. It was unbelievably biased and anti-greek! They were talking about ritual and their outrage that police weren't allowed in because the fraternity was holding "ritual" (the added emphasis was given by the news, not me). It seemed their purpose in covering this story was just to belittle SAE and the UCF greek system in general. I loved how when the news shifted from a cheerleader who died from suspected alcohol abuse to this story the broadcaster said something like "in other alcohol related news for UCF..." WTF News spins like that just disgust me.

Yeah they also neglected to report on the shooting death that happened across the street the same night in a university affiliated housing complex.

Hey we aren't dumbasses lol we have the 2nd highest GPA on campus.

A recent report from the web site of a station in Florida:

http://www.local6.com/news/10227405/detail.html

GPA has nothing to do with smarts sometimes.

Question. Has the chapter president given word on the situation yet?

It's probably not the best thing for him to speak about specifics of the events on an internet BBS. FL-E1973, I'd caution you about answering those sorts of questions.

I'm sorry, I can't hold my tongue any longer.

You've been Greek for all of 2.5 seconds. Stop acting like you know everything there is to know about it.

In all fairness...I think the quotes were used in context of this:

I hate to be the one to say it, but if a groups ritual routinely inolves crawling around on the floor in bras and panties, wearing wigs and diapers...the quotations are certainly deserved. Things like that make a mockery of the true word and meaning of "ritual".

I'm not saying the report wasn't exaggerated. But IF (and that's a big if) all that stuff written about what was going on in that house is true, I think the "added emphasis" was rather justified.

As for me? The gentlemen of SAE at UCF have never been anything but that to me, gentlemen. I hope that what ever action is taken is fair and unbiased.

Both the pledges who participated and the brothers who arranged this "ritual" deserve to be expelled from UCF. Talk about stupid.

Prancing around in fairy wands and ladies' panties is not what I would have expected from SAE at UCF. These men are an embarrassment to the university and their fraternity.

Whether a new member or 50-year alumna, she's still making a good point. Shoot, you don't even have to be Greek to recognize the lack of good PR for our philanthropies, awards and other accolades compared to the PR we get for the bad stuff.

I wasn't just referring to the post in this thread, and as far as the post in this thread, I was more referring to her referring to a fraternity ON HER CAMPUS as "dumbasses" when several people at the same school who have been active longer have stated that what was reported isn't the whole story.

bad bad boys
 

I'll teach those boys a lesson ;) Send them to my place...hehe

-anonymous

I am pretty sure that it can be hazing even if the victims were not pledged. I don't know Florida's law, nor UCF, but in most cases, you can haze an initiated brother as well.

When was it proved that anyone was a victim in this case, or are we more biased - and better at jumping to conclusions - than the reporters?

Furthermore, has anyone noticed the timing? Could the goofy costumes have had anything to do with Halloween?

This happened just three days before the weekend preceding Halloween.

DeltaBetaBaby, thank you for pointing that out! Under Florida law (at least as I read it now) the definition of "hazing" is NOT limited to something done as a condition of initiation or admission into an organization. There's explicit "not limited to" language in the law. I was in error when I posted the comment that connected "hazing" and "pledges" (if my reading of the law is now closer to correct).

Law is posted at

http://www.stophazing.org/laws/fl_law.htm

Serves me right for not checking more carefully. Thanks again.

The following seem to be the lastest new release about this story. Note: They do not make a pretty picture of the chapter and activies within.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...ostemailedlink

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs..../61103018/1075

IMHO, you have more of a right, not less, to characterize and criticize students on your own campus, even if you're a freshman, and even if upperclassmen disagree with you. The public reputation your classmates create impacts the way you and your degree will be perceived. Heaven knows I'm a harsh judge of kids who screw up at my alma mater.

just saw this... wtf?

I'm just saying that when you say things online about other groups on your campus, as an active, it may come back to you and your sorority.

If you know for sure that every one of your sisters shares your opinion on this fraternity, then rock on. But if you DON'T know that for sure, you might want to hold your tongue a bit.

it's okay to disagree with her sisters...if she thinks that they're dumbasses, then she thinks that they're dumbasses, she doesn't anyone's validation, she just needs one encounter with them

Sigma Alpha Epsilon HQ has closed the chapter, according to this news report:

http://www.wftv.com/news/10276110/detail.html

Well, that was a really descriptive news report.

To put it bluntly, if they F--K up, then they should be gone from ignorance on their part!:mad: Get rid of them and then go back if they can and re-colonize.

Suddenly, SAE seems to be in the spot light?

SAE IHQ better put a clamp on this and soon.

Earp, you have no idea what went on at the house that night. Did you even read that report? First off notice how it was changed from hazing to "party" also did you notice that it said it is unclear why they were sent to the hospital? Simple, because noone had alcohol poisoning or anything like that. It was called a party becasue it was never clearly established if it was hazing. Would you like to know why? Because every pledge did everything voluntarily, they even said this while being questioned by the police. This is why the law should be questioned and is out of control, a sentence is being set forth when nothing has even clearly being established. Guilty until proven innocent in this case.

Tom;
If one uses a search engine with a news option, one can find stories on more than just SAE. Plug in any GLO and see what comes up.
I have seen a few stories that I just did not wish nor wanted to post.

And National seems to be doing just what they need to be doing. Perhaps in this case, could have waited for some of the dust to settle.