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CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 11:29 AM

Chicago Schools Contemplate Recess After Nearly 30 Years Without It
 
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...78/detail.html

ATTLEBORO, Mass. -- An Attleboro Elementary School is playing it safe. The school has banned tag and a number of other popular games from the playground.


That's causing controversy.


NewsCenter 5's Gail Huff reported that the Willett Elementary School in Attleboro banned tag and it has upset a number of parents and students.

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 11:36 AM

Their school safety issue is ONLY tag? The same tag, you are it!

GTFOOHWTBS

I posted randomly that the "dogs and the po po were here" and THEY are worried about TAG?

umh, umh, umh!

Dionysus 10-18-2006 11:41 AM

What are school administrators smoking these days? What are they going to ban next, jump rope or 4-square? Children are supposed to get hurt! :p I show off my permanent scars like tattoos. ;) J/K

Is this poll function new? Or I was too lazy to look for it? I don't remember seeing it before, even on the new GC.

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1341504)
What are school administrators smoking these days? What are they going to ban next, jump rope or 4-square? Children are supposed to get hurt! :p I show off my permanent scars like tattoos. ;) J/K

Is this poll function new? Or I was too lazy to look for it? I don't remember seeing it before, even on the new GC.

It is new, added this summer, but no one has used it yet until today. :D Isn't it great?

Some of my fondest memories are freeze tag. So what I got hurt? That's what band aids are for! Cocoa butter too for the itchy scabs as they heal. If you don't want to get hurt, go sit on the wall and read a book. :D

AlphaFrog 10-18-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1341511)
It is new, added this summer, but no one has used it yet until today. :D Isn't it great?

How about one of your nifty "How to _____ on GC"'s?:D

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 11:47 AM

4-square was THE BOMB in elementary school!!!

I loved it. You'd start off playing with your friends, but at the end of recess you were no longer friends and ready to fight b/c someone lost a game! Then, you'd make up and start all over again with a new game the next day! :D

crimsondanger10 10-18-2006 12:14 PM

Oh my dayum! What next?!?!?!

neosoul 10-18-2006 12:19 PM

tag is universal, international... the kids are still gonna play it...

NinjaPoodle 10-18-2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neosoul (Post 1341547)
tag is universal, international... the kids are still gonna play it...

Agreed.

DSTCHAOS 10-18-2006 01:14 PM

Keep tag, touch football, and dodgeball and just punish the children who play too rough or get too touchy feely. They can also just do permission slips where parents give their children permission to play basic school yard games, with an understanding that their are some basic risks. Also, why is there "unsupervised" anything on the schoolyard? Not enough monitors?

I hope they got rid of those hard arse red balls we used for dodgeball and kickball when I was little. We would sometimes use soccer balls. Ouch. :o

On a somewhat related note: I remember in high school when horseplay became very popular. All of a sudden we had guys chasing each other down the halls between classes, throwing each other into lockers, and a few times accidentally throwing each other out of windows or down stairs. The principal made an announcement that horseplay is banned and that being caught will result in suspension. That type of ban makes complete sense because horseplay isn't really a school yard game, high school students don't have recess, and horseplay usually results in someone getting hurt.

AlphaFrog 10-18-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1341585)
That type of ban makes complete sense because horseplay isn't really a school yard game, high school students don't have recess, and horseplay usually results in someone getting hurt.

I think that's the point...are these kids "tagging" each-other like we used to...or do the "tags" routinly result in someone hitting the ground?

shinerbock 10-18-2006 01:19 PM

Dodgeball is too exclusionary...haha. We don't want people to feel "out." This reminds me of that California school district which abandoned phonics for a while because they didn't want to tell kids they were pronouncing/spelling the word incorrectly.

DSTCHAOS 10-18-2006 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1341588)
I think that's the point...are these kids "tagging" each-other like we used to...or do the "tags" routinly result in someone hitting the ground?

I think a lot of things have been taken to the Xtreme these days so I suspect they aren't doing regular tag.

I know there were some mean kids on playgrounds when I was little but they would get punished with the quickness.

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1341588)
I think that's the point...are these kids "tagging" each-other like we used to...or do the "tags" routinly result in someone hitting the ground?

Or worse? Yesterday, two "friends" were "fighting" during lunch. The "fighting" resulted in them breaking the glass door that leads to the library. One of the students said that the guy was his friend and they were not fighting. Okay. How about your hand is all scraped and bruised?

Now, you and your friend are suspended for 9 days AND you and your friend must replace the glass door.

Drolefille 10-18-2006 02:30 PM

Usually tag isn't banned because it's violent, it's because it is exclusionary. The slowest kid is always "it"

It's still stupid to ban it.

ufdale 10-18-2006 02:31 PM

Kids are already too fat and lazy as it is! Why ban the only physical activity they might get in the whole day?! Besides, the real world is competitive. Might as well get them used to it early. :rolleyes:

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 02:34 PM

Definition of freeze tag for the 3 voters in the poll :p

One person is it and chases everyone else who is playing. If "IT" tags you, you are frozen until another player unfreezes you.

That's how we played it.:) I am sure there are variations though.

DSTCHAOS 10-18-2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1341617)
Or worse? Yesterday, two "friends" were "fighting" during lunch. The "fighting" resulted in them breaking the glass door that leads to the library. One of the students said that the guy was his friend and they were not fighting. Okay. How about your hand is all scraped and bruised?


That used to happen almost everyday when I was in middle and high school.

tunatartare 10-18-2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1341619)
Usually tag isn't banned because it's violent, it's because it is exclusionary. The slowest kid is always "it"

Is that why you were always "it?"

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 02:39 PM

LOL.

Freeze tag and "it" were 2 different games during our day.

Exclusionary? During recess? If you can't play or you get upset b/c you cannot tag anyone move on over to the jungle gym, the tunnel, the monkey bars, jump rope, see saw, etc etc. :D

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1341627)
LOL.

Freeze tag and "it" were 2 different games during our day.

We had freeze tag, hide and go seek, and hide and go get it. I never played that last one.

DSTCHAOS 10-18-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1341628)
We had freeze tag, hide and go seek, and hide and go get it. I never played that last one.

I had to kick a little boy in the balls for thinking I was playing "hide and go get it" with him.

I mostly played basketball, soccer, and dodgeball on the school yard.

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1341631)
I had to kick a little boy in the balls for thinking I was playing "hide and go get it" with him.

Honestly, I mostly played basketball, soccer, and dodgeball on the school yard.

We played freeze tag at home more than at school, except gym class.

At recess, I was on the swings. :) I hated the teeter totter. I was always in the freaking air.:(

Marie 10-18-2006 02:48 PM

That's too bad. Kids definitely need more exercise these days, and most school yard games will result in some basic cuts and bruises. I agree that there should be supervision to guarantee that games aren't getting out of hand, in addition to a waiver from parents stating that they acknowledge the basic risks. Beyond that, kids should be allowed to play freely within the bounds that normal supervision will allow.

Banning the sport because kids feel excluded is extreme. I don't think that its ok to let 1 kid get picked on or constantly remain 'un-chosen' when it comes to participating. However, competition is a part of life. How will kids develop the drive to improve or prepare themselves from the intense competition that occurs later in life if they are so shielded now?

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie (Post 1341634)
Banning the sport because kids feel excluded is extreme. I don't think that its ok to let 1 kid get picked on or constantly remain 'un-chosen' when it comes to participating. However, competition is a part of life. How will kids develop the drive to improve or prepare themselves from the intense competition that occurs later in life if they are so shielded now?

I'm thinking the people that are making these rules must have been picked last for the kickball, basketball, baseball, etc. teams in gym and at recess. Suck it up and let it go. Life is exclusionary in general.

Freeze tag and recess is a way to get these kids up and moving to stay in shape or get in shape. I wish I had some recess right now.:o

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1341628)
We had freeze tag, hide and go seek, and hide and go get it. I never played that last one.

We had those too. Also, there was hide and go bebo! What the heck is a bebo? I don't know. I know I would play that with my cousins.

Proverbs31 10-18-2006 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1341628)
We had freeze tag, hide and go seek, and hide and go get it. I never played that last one.

LMAO!!! We used to play the last one as well...well my school mates did anyway :p (and I attended a Catholic school lol).

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1341639)
We had those too. Also, there was hide and go bebo! What the heck is a bebo? I don't know. I know I would play that with my cousins.

:confused: :confused: So while you're hiding, do you yell BEBO every few seconds until you make it to home base?:confused: :o

ufdale 10-18-2006 03:03 PM

I wasn't terribly good at baseball or soccer, so I remember tag being a game that everyone could play. Seriously, if you get tagged it's fun! IMO It's a much friendlier activity than team sports. It's a great way to make friends if you're new. It's much easier and less exclusionary to play one big game, than to sit in groups and talk.
If they're trying to stop kids from being excluded, they're going at it the wrong way. Hell you can even be excluded from the swings- lets ban swings!

DSTCHAOS 10-18-2006 03:05 PM

Some schools don't allow free play during recess, anyway. The kids do structured exercises/games similar to a mini gym class. One day there can be jumping jacks and supervised dodgeball, for example.

I think if taking a break and getting exercise is the issue, structured exercises/games are the answer. If kids want a free-for-all where they can chase their friends around, they can wait until they get home.

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1341646)
:confused: :confused: So while you're hiding, do you yell BEBO every few seconds until you make it to home base?:confused: :o

NO.
1. Before the game begins, everyone agrees and pick the object that keeps you safe (tree, a step, a lawn chair, etc).
2. The person who is "it" closes his/her eyes and says really fast... "hideandgobebobebo Ican'tseeyouseeyouseeyou" while everyone else is trying to hide. You may not get a chance to hide b/c you don't know when the "it" person will stop saying it.
3. The "it" person stops saying the little diddy and runs looking for the others and/or tries to tag someone (who didn't find a place to hide). But, you are trying to get to the safe place b/4 you are tagged. Then, you have to close your eyes and say "hideandgobebobebo..." If the person goes after you.

AlexMack 10-18-2006 03:13 PM

Oh noes! My kid might fall over or run into someone or wind up crying because he got tagged and couldn't catch anyone else. Let's sue the school!
PS. This thread is funny because I have a thread open about the same topic on another forum too.

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1341655)
NO.
1. Before the game begins, everyone agrees and pick the object that keeps you safe (tree, a step, a lawn chair, etc).
2. The person who is "it" closes his/her eyes and says really fast... "hideandgobebobebo Ican'tseeyouseeyouseeyou" while everyone else is trying to hide. You may not get a chance to hide b/c you don't know when the "it" person will stop saying it.
3. The "it" person stops saying the little diddy and runs looking for the others and/or tries to tag someone (who didn't find a place to hide). But, you are trying to get to the safe place b/4 you are tagged. Then, you have to close your eyes and say "hideandgobebobebo..." If the person goes after you.

Ooooh. Very different but it sounds comical from an outsider's point of view.

Dionysus 10-18-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1341631)
I mostly played basketball, soccer, and dodgeball on the school yard.

Same with me. I wasn't a fan of tag, because I ran like a turtle. It still shouldn't be banned though. In the upper grades 5-8, recess activites included sneaking away to the 7-11, hiding in the woods, and going into the classroom stealing things from teachers/classmates. Now, I only stole once, the other times I was just guilty by association. I was the watch girl. :p I'm shocked we never got caught. My friends were not subtle in their stealing at all. When I stole some candy from our teacher that one time, I only took a small handfull....my friends lined their pockets.

I was also a fan of indoor recess for some reason. People seemed to get into more fights then. Too many bebe kids in too little space!

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1341650)
Some schools don't allow free play during recess, anyway. The kids do structured exercises/games similar to a mini gym class. One day there can be jumping jacks and supervised dodgeball, for example.

This is the case. As I am studying another side of education, this was brought up. Most funding at the lower grades for PE has been drastically reduced. So, many districts are implementing a more structured approach during the recess period to offset the budgeted shortages. It makes sense, but for those of us who grew up in another era, it's kind of a strange notion. Accountability has really changed the educational dynamic. Physical education(as we knew it) and arts education and music education is almost a thing of the past.

At our school, the students are required to take PE ( a couple of courses, I believe) in order to graduate, but if you don't get the teacher who has been here for 40 years, you won't do ANYTHING but sit on the floor, if you decide not to play a game of basketball.


Times have changed...

Drolefille 10-18-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy (Post 1341626)
Is that why you were always "it?"

Oh Snap.

I was the girl who played basketball and football with the boys. We played touch football on asphalt using parking lot lines as yard lines. (2 lines= 10 yards). One time they somehow let us outside when it was icy and we played ice football, on asphalt. I'm not sure how we're not all dead.

I wasn't thinking of Freeze Tag though, I was thinking of regular tag aka "it" as someone else put it. Freeze tag isn't nearly as exclusionary.

Our playground was as above, a parking lot. There weren't other things to do besides tag or four square when you're little and football/basketball when you're older. They did paint a world map on part of the it for a few years, but that's where the girls sat and talked all recess long. Stupid girls :P

tunatartare 10-18-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1341686)
They did paint a world map on part of the it for a few years, but that's where the girls sat and talked all recess long. Stupid girls :P

I would've been one of those girls. In Middle School, when my school had 3 fields, I was the one playing ultimate frisbee with all of the boys.

mccoyred 10-18-2006 04:16 PM

Most of what I have been thinking has been said. However, I did want to add that this 'ban' is yet another sign of this instant gratification society where the individual is not held accountable for their actions.

My 6th grader came home from school yesterday and told me that the principal said that they are banning hooded shirts! Good grief, Charlie Brown.

DSTCHAOS 10-18-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1341710)
My 6th grader came home from school yesterday and told me that the principal said that they are banning hooded shirts! Good grief, Charlie Brown.

Why?

If it's because kids are wearing the hoods during school hours...uh...just tell them to...take...off...the...hood. :rolleyes: Just like many schools don't allow students to wear hats inside the buildings. Geesh.

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1341710)

My 6th grader came home from school yesterday and told me that the principal said that they are banning hooded shirts! Good grief, Charlie Brown.

That's stupid!!! As cold as it gets a hooded shirt is great for cold weather layering.


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