Three Sororities Selected to Present at Northwestern
 

Sigma Delta Tau, Alpha Xi Delta and Zeta Tau Alpha have been chosen to make presentations.

Article.

If we're talking numbers, yeah, there's probably no question...but you're right, I can't believe she actually said that.

What cannot anyone beleive? She is proud of Her Organization and lets it be known. If it is a lie, then do not wory about it.

But congratulations on the three Sororitys in being chosen to present.

It is a shame to hear about ADPi having been closed.:(

Because it's not very panhellenic.

Wow...very bold statement.

Anyone else think it might be a little early to expand since ADPi just closed last year due to low numbers? Maybe I am missing something.....

Why would it be so bizarre? UCF is not a microcosm of Greek Life across the country and in Canada.

Earp doesn't know the meaning of panhellenic, thus revealing the problem.

And it isn't very panhellenic, regardless of truth.

I disagree. He unites GC sorority women through his presentation of the issues he considers important.

And yes, ZTA has larger stage presence from a numbers POV, but I can see where the quote could be taken out of context or taken the wrong way.

As for an ADPi chapter closing, I will say honestly I know nothing of the circumstances behind its closing but I will say from experience that our IO team and volunteers make extensive efforts to preserve a chapter and give collegiate members the tools they need to be successful. It could be the university was ready for expansion, but the closed chapter could not stay competitive with the other existing chapters. At some point a dying chapter has reached a point of no return and all the PNMs in the world are not going to fill its halls. And I'd rather see a chapter close than see collegiate members struggle on a daily basis for years. The collegians gain nothing but frustration when there is a losing battle before them. When no amount of help or aid can repair a chapter, it's time to close the doors and let it go so the current collegians can have some chance at a reasonably normal college experience without the stress and obligations of a dying chapter consuming their every thought and movement.

Thank you both for your insightful posts!:rolleyes:

So, it is not Pan Hell.:eek:

But I wonder how many on site are that so kind to others?:rolleyes:

God a mental pea could read posts and figure it out.

Read some of your own comments!:(

I think what JessXica is saying is that you start to think of the sororities on your campus as the representation of the sorority. It's easy, especially for a new member, to get used to seeing XYZ as the small house and QRS as the strongest. Not bizarre like they can't possibly be different, but bizarre like this is all I've ever known. I agree with this although years on GC and being an alum has made a difference.

Tom, I have a hard enough time reading yours.

Drolefille, a translation of Tom Earp's post please.

What need, other than a smart comment?

Is that plain enough?

While I am familiar with the Sororitys on My Campus, I do stay in contact with others than just Fraternitys.

I wish nothing but the best for any GLO on any campus. Is that plain enough?:rolleyes:

Granted, not all chapters are the same in grade as others, are they even the less?

If you are not proud enough to say posotive things about your GLO, then who would think of you being so kind to others?:o

Your fingers are flying but all I see is this:
rgfiheodsthdsiothwoientdsnguidsthwoengskjrhweurhfj sd csmneqkwjgfisua;g fes :rolleyes: :D :D ;) :confused:

Tom you don't have a campus. You have an almer mater. Are you still concerned with the tiers and ranking of greek life?

First of all...i really don't understand what you are really trying to imply here...but let's just assume that you mean what I think you mean. Then this is the STUPIDEST thing i've ever heard.

Ok, so your proud of your sorority, big woop, everyone is proud of their sorority. That does not mean that you can be unkind to others, or imply (like this president did) that others are inferior to your sorority.

Thank you for the non spelling lesson.:rolleyes:

I am guessing you eyes are brown?:confused:


centaur532, so this places you in the Dah Crew!:rolleyes:

As requested, thou shalt receive (in a 2 for one deal)

Thank you kindly for helping me learn things. *my eyes hurt I'll move them around*

Panhellenic is different from where evil pots and pans go when they die. I'm scared of "Pan Hell"

But how many of you are nice to other people *Gee my eyes hurt*

I asked a rhetorical question and am now calling myself stupid
Please re-read your own comments. *I am sad*
What do I need besides a smart ass remark?
DO you understand the words comin' out of my mouth? Do You UNDERSTAND the WORDS coming OUT of MY MOUTH?!
While I knew some people in sororities from my campus, I'm not at all familiar with their policies.
I like Greek orgs *my eyes are still hurting me*
Some chapters don't wear pearls while they vacuum the house, but are they really inferior?
If you can't say anything nice about your chapter, then you won't say anything nice about any other chapter. (This still doesn't make sense) *My eyes have popped out of their sockets.. help!*

I've decided that Earp-ish is like reading a cryptic Haiku. The only possible reason for the sentence structure is that he's trying to fit some weird rhythm.

Thank you for making my day! :D

I agree.
She should have said something like "We are the LARGEST sorority", not we are the "STRONGEST". Strongest implies to me, a not very favorable commentary on the members of the other 2 NPC sororities.

Drolefille, that's one of the funniest things I ever read!! :D

Do the one above your other post! I just laughed my ass off. Is Earp trying to speak ebonics or something? I'm confused :confused:

PLEASE explain the one above your other post. You eyes are brown?

Why, all of you are to kind and so Greekish!:rolleyes:

But what color are my eyes, Tom?

Careful there, your eyes might roll out of your head.

Red like the devil you are. Jumping in before he can.

This thread is way off topic--get back to the matter at hand and stop the in fighting please.

-one of your friendly neighborhood moderators.

Sorry Amycat. Back on the tracks again.

As such I will decline to translate Earp's post in this thread, however I do them on request.

I don't remember the dates from the article, but will it be a while before we know how the presentations went?

Congratulations to AXD, ZTA, and SDT.

[QUOTE=Drolefille;1341046]As such I will decline to translate Earp's post in this thread, however I do them on request.

Does this have to do with anything of posting?:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Tom Earp;1341061]
Tom, I've already asked that this post be brought back on topic. Please do not contribute to the melee.

I will be honest and say I don't know how the whole Greek Affairs-type stuff works when a chapter closes, but based on the article, it sounds like they started looking for another the chapter the second that the ADPi chapter closed.

For those of you who are curious, ADPi closed at Northwestern due to low membership and a consequent inability to remain financial solvent. A full story can be found at here.

ADPi was recolonized at Northwestern in 2000 and has been suffering from lower than average membership over the past few years. It was the newest sorority colonization at NU.

The extension opportunity provided by Northwestern Panhellenic was a direct result of loosing ADPi and a strong desire to return quotas back to where they were with 12 sororities on campus. All Panhellenic groups not represented at Northwestern were invited to participate in the extension process.

-Eric

That would make me think that the school needs to stay at eleven chapters. They're too focused on quota and not enough on total, though it doesn't say what total is currently. Adding a 12th chapter only makes quota go down by maybe 4 girls if they have a really huge turnout for formal recruitment. The first article said they're expecting at least 400 to go through FR in the winter. At 400/11=37, 400/12=34. If FR shoots up to 500, it's 500/11=46 and 500/12=42. Unless the average chapter only has 30-50 members then they should be able to handle NM classes of those sizes.

Alright, I just checked Northwestern's Greek Life website. All the chapters are listed as having 100+ members. They can definitely handle have NM classes of 30-50. IMHO they should wait a couple years before colonizing another chapter.

Sounds like there is definitely room to add another sorority. It is a shame ADPi did not work out, but these things happen to every GLO. Sometimes the initial colony cannot sustain the long haul. All the best to the chapters presenting at NU!

The article said the presentations would take place w/in the next thirty days. So, I'm guessing we'll know sometime around Thanksgiving?

Keep in mind that Northwestern is in Illinois, not the South. Many of the strong "southern" sororities don't have the same foothold up North. That isn't to say they don't have any successful northern chapters, but they don't enjoy the same identity/advantage that they tend to have in the South. I have a lot of respect for ZTA, but they only have 1 open chapter in Illinois, and 5 closed ones - same as Alpha Xi Delta. SDT has 3 open versus 2 closed. I'm not saying that to be disrespectful or to lobby for one over another, just pointing out that the playing field is probably more even than the ZTA president's comments would lead one to believe. For all 3 groups this would be a recolonization.

ETA: For those who aren't familiar with NU, EVERY NPC on campus is a single-letter designation chapter (i.e. OLD) except for one (Delta Zeta.) It can be difficult for any sorority to compete with that kind of history. ADII originally came on campus in 1945 - that is 64 years after Alpha Phi opened the campus in 1881. NU had 8 sororities before 1900. That can be daunting.