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exlurker 10-07-2006 05:26 PM

Lafayette (in PA) Investigating Alleged Sorority Hazing
 
A sorority chapter at Lafayette (in Pennsylvania) is being investigated because of allegations of hazing, according to the October 6 ’06 issue of the college paper. Alleged activities include encouragement of alcohol consumption and having to sleep at the sorority house “for several days.”
Please note that this is an investigation; no disciplinary actions or legal charges have been reported. Article is at:

http://www.thelaf.com/media/storage/...www.thelaf.com

\Brief excerpts from the article:

Sorority to be investigated for hazing
Brian Mason
Issue date: 10/6/06 Section: News

The Pi Beta Phi sorority is under investigation for hazing, President Dan Weiss confirmed this week.

A Pi Phi member, who wished to remain anonymous, said the investigation was a result of new member pledging activities. She said the pledges participated in parties encouraging underage alcohol consumption and were forced to sleep at the sorority house for several days.

Another member, who also witheld
[sic] her name, said the investigation was the result of a phone call from a pledge's mother to Terry Weber, advisor to fraternities and sororities.

Both Weber and Stephanie Morain '07, president of Pi Phi, declined to comment on the nature of the investigation.

Weber, however, said, "The college has a zero tolerance policy [towards hazing.] If there were any issues, we'd make corrections to get them back on track. Our policies are consistent to trying to maintain security with our new member education."

He confirmed no lawsuit has been filed against any members of Pi Phi . . . .

However, a spokeswoman from the national chapter
[of Pi Beta Phi] said, "We do take disciplinary action internally with our chapters, and that could lead to us closing a chapter."

. . . The spokeswoman declined comment regarding Lafayette's chapter.

AGDee 10-07-2006 10:22 PM

Interestingly, this is a campus that requires that new members are initiated within 3 weeks of bid day and limit recruitment (formal and COR) to very brief time periods so that there are only two new member periods per school year in order to try to prevent hazing.

Unregistered- 10-07-2006 10:50 PM

I couldn't get the link to work.

Tom Earp 10-08-2006 09:50 AM

Gosh, it is hard to beleive that a Sorority would haze.:eek:

DolphinChicaDDD 10-08-2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1335249)
Interestingly, this is a campus that requires that new members are initiated within 3 weeks of bid day and limit recruitment (formal and COR) to very brief time periods so that there are only two new member periods per school year in order to try to prevent hazing.

The administration also requires students to wait until they are sophmores to join Greek Life. Overall, the policies are just strange. The Tri Delta chapter is one of the two my Alumane Chapter supports; I've had many disscussions with the Chapter members about the college's policies.

kathykd2005 10-08-2006 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1335343)
Gosh, it is hard to beleive that a Sorority would haze.:eek:

Why is that so hard to believe? I knew a lot of women who were just plain cold, and I'm sure they wouldn't mind beating someone senseless, and masking it as "ritual." :confused:

DSTCHAOS 10-08-2006 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1335343)
Gosh, it is hard to beleive that a Sorority would haze.:eek:

Because?

Tom Earp 10-08-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1335393)
Because?


Dah, because they are Ladies and don't do things like this!:rolleyes:

AGDee 10-08-2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1335257)
I couldn't get the link to work.

http://www.thelaf.com/media/storage/...www.thelaf.com

Ack, I can't get it to show the whole link.. but it did work for me.

DolphinChica.. The Tri-Delta advisors at Lafayette have been incredibly supportive of our chapter there :)

DSTCHAOS 10-08-2006 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1335448)
Dah, because they are Ladies and don't do things like this!:rolleyes:


:rolleyes: If "gentlemen" can do it, why can't "ladies?"

JonInKC 10-08-2006 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kathykd2005 (Post 1335375)
Why is that so hard to believe? I knew a lot of women who were just plain cold, and I'm sure they wouldn't mind beating someone senseless, and masking it as "ritual." :confused:

It does seem that I don't read as much about sorority hazing.

ETA: I do remember one girl in school that said she pledged a sorority there but dropped out. Something about yelling at her and blowing a whistle in her ear.

Kevin 10-08-2006 11:13 PM

With the three week initiation requirement, I have to wonder what this univeristy would consider "hazing' to be.

It might just turn out that they're casting a ridiculously wide net as to the definition of the term.

The three week requirement cautions me to not believe that this university is at all reasonable when dealing with GLOs.

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInKC (Post 1335719)
It does seem that I don't read as much about sorority hazing.

I do but let's pretend that you don't.

Does what you read reflect reality? There are tons of things that you probably overlook that are reported on GC and other places where hazing stories are reported. There are tons of things that don't get detected or reported to us.

33girl 10-09-2006 11:35 AM

Hey all, Tom was being sarcastic with his post.

It just goes to show that shortened pledge periods are BS - if a GLO really wants to haze, they'll get it in quickly.

However, this sounds more like a helicopter mommy :rolleyes: being upset because her daughter is finally getting a life.

Lafayette is a classic case of party school trying to become PC and failing miserably. We have many of those in our fair state. :)

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1335906)
Hey all, Tom was being sarcastic with his post.


Good.

Rain Man 10-09-2006 01:56 PM

Does this mean our Alpha Chapter will never be allowed to come back?
 
Will this hurt Alpha Phi Omega's chances of getting reactivated Alpha Chapter in the future (ie create/intensify a distrust by Lafayette's administration of GLOs in general)?

Just curious

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 1335997)
Will this hurt Alpha Phi Omega's chances of getting reactivated Alpha Chapter in the future (ie create/intensify a distrust by Lafayette's administration of GLOs in general)?

Just curious


Maybe they don't have a problem with service organizations as long as they behave as service organizations should.

Rain Man 10-09-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1335998)
Maybe they don't have a problem with service organizations as long as they behave as service organizations should.

Whatever that means.....

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 1336002)
Whatever that means.....

...maybe APO isn't a threat to the university's new structure as long as they stick with Red Cross blood drives and knitting sweaters for the elderly and steer away from the things that social GLOs have become notorious for.

33girl 10-09-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 1335997)
Will this hurt Alpha Phi Omega's chances of getting reactivated Alpha Chapter in the future (ie create/intensify a distrust by Lafayette's administration of GLOs in general)?

Just curious


If they have a stupid Greek advisor that lumps all fraternities together as being the same, I would say yes.

GDIfly 10-09-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1335613)
:rolleyes: If "gentlemen" can do it, why can't "ladies?"

Haha, I've never seen someone get defensive about hazing in this way before. "Yeah-huh we can haze! We can, I swear!" :rolleyes:

Tom Earp 10-09-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1335906)
Hey all, Tom was being sarcastic with his post.

It just goes to show that shortened pledge periods are BS - if a GLO really wants to haze, they'll get it in quickly.

However, this sounds more like a helicopter mommy :rolleyes: being upset because her daughter is finally getting a life.

Lafayette is a classic case of party school trying to become PC and failing miserably. We have many of those in our fair state. :)


Thank you for being one who can see sarcasim at its finest!:D

Yes, women can be very spiteful in the worst way.:(


But anyone who would be so ignorant to put up with some of the more physical and mental hazing is well, not to bright.

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDIfly (Post 1336033)
defensive about hazing

If that's what you gathered from that, "GDI," then you're an idiot.

GDIfly 10-09-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1336082)
If that's what you gathered from that, "GDI," then you're an idiot.

I'm not the one who likes Tucker Carlson :p

Seriously though, I was simply surprised to see someone defend the ability of women to haze. Yes, Tom's an idiot whether or not he was being sarcastic, but of all the things to argue with him about...

macallan25 10-09-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GDIfly (Post 1336101)
Yes, Tom's an idiot.


End thread.


........actually I should be nice....he might call nationals.

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDIfly (Post 1336101)
I'm not the one who likes Tucker Carlson :p

Then shame on you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDIfly (Post 1336101)
Seriously though, I was simply surprised to see someone defend the ability of women to haze. Yes, Tom's an idiot whether or not he was being sarcastic, but of all the things to argue with him about...

Seriously though, if you fail to see why acknowledging that ANYONE can haze is important, then you're (once again) an idiot. GDI.

tunatartare 10-09-2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1336109)
End thread.


........actually I should be nice....he might call nationals.

I think I love you.

DSTCHAOS 10-09-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy (Post 1336111)
I think I love you.

...then what am I so afraid of?

Sailboat Sis 10-09-2006 11:43 PM

Since APO is not IFC, I do not see that it would have any trouble getting re-started.

President Weiss is very supportive of Greek Life despite not being Greek himself; however, he stops being supportive when GLOs stop following the rules.

I love the Pi Phi girls at Laf & I sincerely hope that these allegations are proven false.

Rain Man 10-10-2006 10:11 AM

I just hope that the Kappa Delta Rho chapter (Tau) at Lafayette doesn't get busted over some dumb mess--5 of the Alpha Phi Omega founders helped start the KDR Tau chapter via the Krescents Fraternity eating club of which our founder started the Krescents.

Alpha Phi Omega's founders did play quite a role in Lafayette's Greek life during their tenure there.

33girl 10-10-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailboat Sis (Post 1336269)
Since APO is not IFC, I do not see that it would have any trouble getting re-started.

You'd think. But my point was not everyone gets that. They see Greek letters and think everything is the same kind of group, be it social, service, professional or honorary. I'm hoping Lafayette's Greek advisor and admin are a little brighter than the GAs at some of the surrounding schools.

DSTCHAOS 10-10-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1336393)
But my point was not everyone gets that. They see Greek letters and think everything is the same kind of group, be it social, service, professional or honorary.

There are APO members who don't get that they aren't the same as everyone else. So I can understand why others would be confused, as well.

33girl 10-10-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1336411)
There are APO members who don't get that they aren't the same as everyone else. So I can understand why others would be confused, as well.

Oh, snap. :p

DSTCHAOS 10-10-2006 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1336419)
Oh, snap. :p

:eek: Am I lying?

AlphaFrog 10-10-2006 11:22 AM

This girl was upset because the pledges were "forced to sleep at the sorority house"...


At least they got to sleep. That's better then a few group's pledges on my college's campus can claim...:p

33girl 10-10-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1336420)
:eek: Am I lying?

ROFL.

Sailboat Sis 10-10-2006 04:43 PM

The KDR boys at Laf are some of the best individuals on that campus.

I would put money on it that if someone was interested enough in reinstating APO on the campus, no one would oppose it, especially not the administrators.

exlurker 10-12-2006 03:31 PM

Update: Pi Beta Phi HQ Puts Lafayette Chapter on Probation

http://www.nj.com/news/expresstimes/...830.xml&coll=2

Excerpt from October 12 '06 article:

[Pi Beta Phi's chapter at Lafayette] has been placed on probation by its national council, according to a news release from the sorority president.

"Hazing is illegal and will not be tolerated," Pi Beta Phi Fraternity President Emily Tarr said in a news release. "The chapter has been placed on probation, which provides them with the highest level of fraternity support.

Diane Balogh, director of communications for the sorority headquartered in St. Louis, Mo., said she could not release details of the alleged hazing incident.

"There are requirements that this chapter will need to fulfill to get back in good standing," she said. "But I can't talk about what those are without going into details. We're working with the college so we know what we need to do to get into compliance."

"As far as the probation and what that means, it's really tailored to the individual chapter. I can't go into that because it is an internal matter," she said. "What I can tell you is that our highest members, the members of our grand council, will be working one on one with the chapter to resolve these issues."

Balogh added that Lafayette could place sanctions on the sorority, but a college spokesman was unavailable for comment Wednesday. . . .

Tom Earp 10-12-2006 03:55 PM

Thank you for getting it back to the point of post.

Drolefille 10-12-2006 04:15 PM

Whoa, Pi Phi's HQ is in STL? Where?


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