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kdonline 10-05-2006 03:17 PM

UF Pikes suspended after party
 
posted Wednesday, October 4, 2006 1:00 a.m.


Fraternity suspended after party

By JESSICA RIFFEL
Alligator Staff Writer

Police investigations have found no indication of sexual battery in the cases of three women who told police they believe they were drugged at a Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity barbecue on Saturday.

UF became aware through the investigation that the fraternity had held an unauthorized event. Because alcohol was served at the event and served to minors, the Dean of Students Office placed the fraternity on interim suspension Tuesday until the investigation is completed, UF spokesman Steve Orlando said. Pi Kappa Alpha will not be able to host any functions until the suspension is lifted, he added.


read the rest @

http://www.alligator.org/pt2/061004pike.php

Tom Earp 10-05-2006 04:22 PM

SWuggest that we wait and see what the truth is from the alledged events.

Someone, keep us posted please.

If true, it is shocking, if alledged and unproved, then let it die and let the chapter carry on.

UNDPike86 10-11-2006 09:28 AM

Thats disappointing to hear.

DeltAlum 10-11-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNDPike86 (Post 1336899)
Thats disappointing to hear.

It always is, but no national fraternity is immune. We all have chapters that make mistakes.

RU OX Alum 10-11-2006 11:59 AM

am i the only one here who thinks this is opprtunitstic bs on the part of the dean? seriously, i hope that guy get a car ticket, but it doesn't snow in florida, so that won't have the full effect

ufdale 10-11-2006 09:37 PM

I can't view the alligator's article (I'm sure I read it though), but what are you talking about with the car ticket?
I think the whole ordeal is very unfortunate... especially because it gives greeks a bad name. Fraternities should be safe places for women, especially since I think all fraternity men pledge to be gentlemen and to set the standard for men everywhere. This was the leading news on TV from Gainesville to south florida (where my parent's live).

gdiaz 10-12-2006 04:05 PM

any more news about this?

kdonline 10-13-2006 04:54 PM

yes:
Friday, October 13, 2006 1:00 a.m.


Pike brothers named in GPD complaint
POLICE INVESTIGATION COULD LEAD TO CRIMINAL CHARGES.

By JAMES RIGNEY
Alligator Writer

Four members of the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity were named in a sworn complaint filed by the Gainesville Police Department on Thursday, according to police.

The complaint, which was sent to state prosecutors, is part of an ongoing investigation into the possible drugging of three women at an unauthorized party at the Pike house Sept. 30.

The complaint states that four Pike members told pledges to serve alcohol to underage people, according to Sgt. Keith Kameg, spokesman for GPD.

"If it's a private residence, which it was, and you have a party, which they did, then you have a responsibility to prevent underage drinking," he said.

The four fraternity brothers named in the complaint are Robert Wagner, 21, Jason Krbec, 21, Daniel Hart, 21, and Sean Bohne, 22. They serve on the executive board of UF's chapter of Pike, Kameg said.

The complaint states they "contributed to the delinquency of a child" because a 17-year-old was offered "a 12-ounce can of Natural Ice from someone in a Pike shirt," Kameg said.

The complaints came out of an investigation of a party where two 18-year-old UF students and one 17-year-old Bradford County high school student said they thought they might have been drugged.

They reported waking up hours later, not remembering what had happened.

Police are still waiting for toxicology reports to determine if they were drugged. There has been no evidence of sexual assault.



read the rest of the article @
http://www.alligator.org/pt2/061013pike.php

RU OX Alum 10-18-2006 03:05 PM

I hate lightweights. I wish vegas had odds on stuff like this, because I'd be willing to bet that they weren't drugged. They just can't handle their own because they are in highschool. Highschoolers at a frat party? Man, I'm glad that nothing seriously bad happens down there, and they have time to investigate stuff like this. Although, they probably only investigate complaints where they think it will be an easy arrest/conviction.

PhrozenGod01 10-18-2006 06:27 PM

Those pikes in question should be cited for offering Natty Ice. Personally, I'd prefer the drugs.

DeltAlum 10-18-2006 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01 (Post 1341809)
Those pikes in question should be cited for offering Natty Ice. Personally, I'd prefer the drugs.

OK, it's sad, but that made me chuckle.

Firehouse 10-18-2006 09:34 PM

Nice comment Elephant Walk. You are a member of what fraternity?

What I've heard - and I don't have all the information - is that there's no sex, no drugs, just sensational, inflammatory newspaper articles. The boys had a party on a fooball weekend and now the school seems determined to punish them for something.
Smells a lot like the Duke Lacrosse case. Sensational, baseless charges with no substance, but the reputation is damaged.

Yes, I probably have a chip on my shoulder.

BabyPiNK_FL 10-18-2006 10:25 PM

I live in South Florida and I did not hear about it, but we have had a few greeks die in terrible accidents in the past few weeks so that is probably overshadowing that whole mess. I honestly believe that it could happen alcohol and possibly drugs. I have heard stories before...

Elephant Walk 10-19-2006 01:19 AM

I just said it was an unprecedented event i'm not sure why you got so defensive?

Firehouse 10-19-2006 01:55 AM

Yes, I am a Pike, and I am aware of a variety of reputations of fraternities, including my own. I'm very proud of our high standing on many southern campuses, and I know that whether we deserve to be singled out or not, fair or not, we have to deal with inappropriate behavior and insist that our members and our chapters conduct themselves as gentlemen.

Yes, I am sensitive because I was around in one of those incidents and I saw it from the inside.

DeltAlum 10-19-2006 11:28 AM

Why has this turned into a pick on Pike thread? None of us is without problems.

Kevin 10-19-2006 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1342273)
Why has this turned into a pick on Pike thread? None of us is without problems.

I agree. I've edited out the offending material.

Any further comments about PKA and its so-called reputation will be deleted.

Tom Earp 10-19-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1342273)
Why has this turned into a pick on Pike thread? None of us is without problems.



DeltAlum has stated the obvious as usual.

There is not a one of us as Greeks who have not had problem chapters and they have been closed, suspended, or sanctioned for a multitude of reasons.

All anyone has to do is keep and eye on GC to see it weekly.

Elephant Walk 11-10-2006 08:30 AM

phi phi baby

kdonline 11-19-2006 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1342338)
I agree. I've edited out the offending material.

Any further comments about PKA and its so-called reputation will be deleted.


THANK YOU!!!! As the thread starter (and updater ;)), I was quite angry that this thread was hijacked.

BTW, I haven't heard any updates about this situation..

GonzoGator 11-30-2006 09:53 PM

As a potential UF Pike pledge, I don't like where this story stalled. I'm a freshman and was planning to go Greek this upcoming spring semester. My dad was a Pike in the 70s even VP for a few years. The guys I met on game days, brothers and alums, I liked, then this story came out. I wish it would come out if UF is going to punish them further, lift the suspension, whatever. The tox results have to be in, I tend to think GPD has nothing or it would make the Gville Sun or Alligator.

ufdale 12-01-2006 12:52 AM

hmm I wondered the same thing because I know the fraternities are looking towards and planning spring recruitment. I wonder what happened?

I have a friend from hs who's currently a pike and I heard a far different story from him about what happened (he was there and I trust him), so I'm not sure I believe the spin the news had.

Tom Earp 12-01-2006 03:57 PM

Don't we all wonder about some of the media spin on items presented?

If it ain't bad news, it is not news?

Sorry DeltAlum, but it just seems the norm at times. :(

DeltAlum 12-02-2006 12:54 PM

If there was nothing to report, it wouldn't be in the news at all, would it?

Tom Earp 12-02-2006 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1365315)
If there was nothing to report, it wouldn't be in the news at all, would it?

The Trouble is how true that is.

I guess the time will tell the tale!:)

PiKA2001 12-02-2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1364746)
hmm I wondered the same thing because I know the fraternities are looking towards and planning spring recruitment. I wonder what happened?

I have a friend from hs who's currently a pike and I heard a far different story from him about what happened (he was there and I trust him), so I'm not sure I believe the spin the news had.

I dont trust the media too much after an incident that happened to my own chapter while I was active. They put a major spin on the story, which made us look like we had much more involvement then we actually did.

DeltAlum 12-03-2006 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1365420)
I dont trust the media too much after an incident that happened to my own chapter while I was active. They put a major spin on the story, which made us look like we had much more involvement then we actually did.

Not all journalists are totally objective -- and that's unfortunate. That can be particularly true in college and/or small markets.

The point, though, is that if nothing questionable happens, it won't be reported.

As I've always said, it's way to easy to blame the media and use it as an excuse.

Don't screw up and the media will ignore you.

That's why they call it news.

raincoat 12-17-2006 01:17 PM

Unfortunately, this chapter's reputation precedes them. If they hadn't had so many issues with similar accusations in the past, I don't think it would be as big of a deal as people made it.

GonzoGator 01-28-2007 02:00 AM

From the get-go there was no evidence of sexual battery, and now the tox-screens show the girls were not drugged. Basically their fate boils down to how UF will punish a house that served alcohol to minors that has had suspensions/probations.

Firehouse 01-28-2007 12:11 PM

Is spring rush over? How did they do?

Munchkin03 01-28-2007 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1365640)
Not all journalists are totally objective -- and that's unfortunate. That can be particularly true in college and/or small markets.

The point, though, is that if nothing questionable happens, it won't be reported.

As I've always said, it's way to easy to blame the media and use it as an excuse.

Don't screw up and the media will ignore you.

That's why they call it news.


That's a really naive statement. I'm not even saying that from a Greek viewpoint--just as someone who's had her life turned upside down due to false accusations from a major newspaper.

KSigkid 01-28-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1365315)
If there was nothing to report, it wouldn't be in the news at all, would it?

Not necessarily - you've been in newsrooms, you know how things can snowball, and all it takes is an overzealous reporter or editor to take a story too far, or beyond it's factual (and/or reasonable) boundaries.

We'd like to think the media always does the responsible thing, but that's just not true. Just as it's not always the media's fault when something happens, some outlets are not without imperfections and problems.

GonzoGator 01-28-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firehouse (Post 1390467)
Is spring rush over? How did they do?

Yea it's over, since they were suspended they weren't allowed to participate in rush week.

DeltAlum 01-28-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1390481)
Not necessarily - you've been in newsrooms, you know how things can snowball, and all it takes is an overzealous reporter or editor to take a story too far, or beyond it's factual (and/or reasonable) boundaries.

I've spent over thirty years in newsrooms.

KSigkid 01-28-2007 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1390632)
I've spent over thirty years in newsrooms.

Which is exactly what I was meant when I said "you've spent time in newsrooms." You know more than anyone on this board that the "don't screw up and the media will ignore you" doesn't always work. I saw instances of it in the few years I spent in newsrooms, and I'm sure you've many more of those situations.

I hope you didn't take that statement as a questioning of your experience, because it was clearly not meant to do that.

DeltAlum 01-29-2007 01:46 PM

Well, as I've said somewhere here (maybe many somewheres), there are some bad journalists -- just like there are some bad cops and bad ministers and bad everything else.

For the most part, though, the vast majority of the reporters, etc. I've met are committed professionals who are devoted to doing a good job.

Still, I'd repeat -- if you don't want to stay out of the media for doing bad stuff, don't do bad stuff.

exlurker 01-29-2007 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoGator (Post 1390413)
Since my dad lives in Gville and he knows I had interest in pledging, he has kept up with the developments and has been in contact with some alumni and attended a meeting at the house recently. The state attorney's office dropped all charges. Apparently they don't make announcements on case developments, but will answer questions at any time. So the Pikes are working on breaking the news (expect the papers to have the story Monday or Tuesday).
From the get-go there was no evidence of sexual battery, and now the tox-screens show the girls were not drugged. Basically their fate boils down to how UF will punish a troubled house that served alcohol to minors. From what I've told they should be hearing from the University dean of students in the next couple weeks.

And the story about the dropped charges (but the possibility of some kind of action through the university) is in the Alligator at:

http://www.alligator.org/pt2/070129pike.php

Tom Earp 01-29-2007 04:14 PM

And the case goes on!

Smoke=Fire.

GonzoGator 01-29-2007 11:51 PM

Well, since it's an off campus and GPD is separate from UF, two investigations was an established fact from the get-go

kdonline 03-02-2007 02:29 PM

Greek Judicial Board weighs Pike's fate
 
Just in!

Greek Judicial Board weighs Pike's fate

During a seven-hour meeting Thursday night, UF's Greek Judicial Board recommended the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity be suspended until Spring 2009.

Full story:
http://www.alligator.org/pt2/070302pike.php


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