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Dionysus 10-04-2006 11:36 PM

How come I almost never see black women at bars?
 
I notice when I go to bars (particularly those geared towards young and straight people), I notice that I almost never see other black women. It's really weird. I see other minority women, such as Asian women. I also see black men. Maybe it's only a STL thing. I probably won't get a serious answer, but oh well...

AlexMack 10-04-2006 11:38 PM

I'm dying to make a totally inappropriate joke right now but it would not be taken very well.

Marie 10-05-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1333642)
I notice when I go to bars (particularly those geared towards young and straight people), I notice that I almost never see other black women. It's really weird. I see other minority women, such as Asian women. I also see black men. Maybe it's only a STL thing. I probably won't get a serious answer, but oh well...

I can't speak for everyone, but I usually prefer to go to clubs b/c I like to dance. Most bars that I go to don't have very much dancing, so I typically only go there with co-workers or other friends that prefer a specific bar/pub. If I'm not going to a club, then I prefer someplace a little more upscale than most of the bars my co-workers visit. Probably someplace where I can relax, listen to music, get a few drinks, and feel comfortable.

jubilance1922 10-05-2006 10:49 AM

Because Black women aren't allowed to go to bars, per Black woman memo 18.5.3, section 3, paragraph 1. ;)

Honeykiss1974 10-05-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1333835)
Because Black women aren't allowed to go to bars, per Black woman memo 18.5.3, section 3, paragraph 1. ;)

ROTFL!!!!!!!!! :p

mulattogyrl 10-05-2006 01:37 PM

^^LMAAAAO

AlexMack 10-05-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1333835)
Because Black women aren't allowed to go to bars, per Black woman memo 18.5.3, section 3, paragraph 1. ;)

I wanted to make a Rosa Parks joke, is that allowed?

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1333835)
Because Black women aren't allowed to go to bars, per Black woman memo 18.5.3, section 3, paragraph 1. ;)

LMAO!!! I don't tend to frequent bars. Marie and I sound on the same wavelength -- I occasionally go to a club and those are clubs with a high percentage of Black patrons.

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1333995)
I wanted to make a Rosa Parks joke, is that allowed?

Interesting.

FeeFee 10-05-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1333835)
Because Black women aren't allowed to go to bars, per Black woman memo 18.5.3, section 3, paragraph 1. ;)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I would also have to side with Marie. I prefer lounge type places.

neosoul 10-05-2006 02:57 PM

I would like to hear the Rosa Parks joke, please PM me if u don't to share with the board... I like bars especially the kinds with cute bartenders who like to give free drinks ;)

lifesaver 10-05-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FeeFee (Post 1334013)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I would also have to side with Marie. I prefer lounge type places.

I know that some places are called 'Bar' and some places are called 'Lounge', but what would you say the difference was? I'm not being a smart ass. I'm generally curious. The thread got me wondering...

Dionysus 10-05-2006 03:05 PM

It's hard to explain...the lounges in my area are kind of restaurantish. There's some dancing, but not as much as you see at clubs. There's drinking, but you won't see people downing shots or drinking a lot of beer like you would see at bars. Majority of the people I see drink "girlie" drinks.

I don't really see that many black women at clubs either, unless it's a gay/lesbian one.

I do see black women at lounges, but are still outnumbered by white women and black men.

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1334025)
It's hard to explain...the lounges in my area are kind of restaurantish. There's some dancing, but not as much as you see at clubs. There's drinking, but you won't see people downing shots or drinking a lot of beer like you would see at bars. Majority of the people I see drink "girlie" drinks.

I don't really see that many black women at clubs either, unless it's a gay/lesbian one.

I do see black women at lounges, but are still outnumbered by white women and black men.

Maybe it is the clubs/lounges/bars that you choose to patronize. You don't live in Boise, Idaho for goodness sakes.

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lifesaver (Post 1334017)
I know that some places are called 'Bar' and some places are called 'Lounge', but what would you say the difference was? I'm not being a smart ass. I'm generally curious. The thread got me wondering...


When I think of bar, I picture a bar with stools and tables, possibly pool tables and darts with a small dance floor that is not used/seldom used.

Clubs are similar to bars but with a bigger dance floor, less tables and people are dancing the whole night once the DJ plays the right song to set the night off.

Lounges have a bar but are filled with comfortable chairs and couches, also has a dance floor but the atmosphere is more mellow and music might not be played as loudly so that it fosters conversation.

That's my perspective & experience in general terms. I am more likely to be at a lounge and club.

Marie 10-05-2006 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334033)
When I think of bar, I picture a bar with stools and tables, possibly pool tables and darts with a small dance floor that is not used/seldom used.

Clubs are similar to bars but with a bigger dance floor, less tables and people are dancing the whole night once the DJ plays the right song to set the night off.

Lounges have a bar but are filled with comfortable chairs and couches, also has a dance floor but the atmosphere is more mellow and music might not be played as loudly so that it fosters conversation.

That's my perspective & experience in general terms. I am more likely to be at a lounge and club.


Perfect description! :D

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie (Post 1334041)
Perfect description! :D

:D

Dionysus acts like all the Black women sit around at home reading and going to church in St Louis. Obviously the Black women go out otherwise what would Nelly have to rap about in his songs? ;) :p

FeeFee 10-05-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1334025)
It's hard to explain...the lounges in my area are kind of restaurantish. There's some dancing, but not as much as you see at clubs. There's drinking, but you won't see people downing shots or drinking a lot of beer like you would see at bars. Majority of the people I see drink "girlie" drinks.

I don't really see that many black women at clubs either, unless it's a gay/lesbian one.

I do see black women at lounges, but are still outnumbered by white women and black men.

I suggest that you find other places in your area to patronize. I'm sure all of the Black women aren't holed up in their homes all the time. You can always find some Black women and ask them where they go to hang out.

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FeeFee (Post 1334049)
I suggest that you find other places in your area to patronize. I'm sure all of the Black women aren't holed up in their homes all the time. You can always find some Black women and ask them where they go to hang out.

Come to Charlotte. I'll take you to The V Lounge and you will see 2 floors of Black women drinking and dancing. I, on the other hand, will sit outside with a book. :p

ETA: There are Black men there as well. And this was directed to Dionysus, the preponderer of Black women at bars, lounges, and clubs in America.

KSUViolet06 10-05-2006 03:39 PM

I like bars occasionally.

However, I like nice, classy,"lounge" type bars-not hole in the wall dive bars.

VandalSquirrel 10-05-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334031)
Maybe it is the clubs/lounges/bars that you choose to patronize. You don't live in Boise, Idaho for goodness sakes.

I was going to reply to this thread and say "Because I live in Idaho!" but that would be wrong as I do see Black women at the bar. The distinction is that I actually see more African students than American Black women but they are here. However it is a university town and we are small and welcoming so everyone goes everywhere and BS is pretty much not tolerated by staff or patrons of booze establishments. I even see Black people at The Plantation bar, which some find ironic. We affectionately call it The Plant and the only problems there are when some sings some tragic karaoke.

VandalSquirrel 10-05-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334046)
:D

Dionysus acts like all the Black women sit around at home reading and going to church in St Louis. Obviously the Black women go out otherwise what would Nelly have to rap about in his songs? ;) :p

I don't know what it is today, but you're killing me CT4!

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1334071)
I was going to reply to this thread and say "Because I live in Idaho!" but that would be wrong as I do see Black women at the bar. The distinction is that I actually see more African students than American Black women but they are here. However it is a university town and we are small and welcoming so everyone goes everywhere and BS is pretty much not tolerated by staff or patrons of booze establishments. I even see Black people at The Plantation bar, which some find ironic. We affectionately call it The Plant and the only problems there are when some sings some tragic karaoke.

I started to say Montana or North Dakota but I used Idaho earlier in another conversation so I just flowed with it.

I doubt I would ever go to a bar, club, or lounge named Plantation, even if Michael Ealy himself was there. But I also don't plan to live in a subdvision or on a street with the word plantation in it. But that's just me.:)

Dionysus 10-05-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334031)
Maybe it is the clubs/lounges/bars that you choose to patronize. You don't live in Boise, Idaho for goodness sakes.

LOL I'm not a fan of those "The Rusty Pick-up Inn" sort of places. The places I go to are pretty mainstream and poplular, there's all kinds people, but very few black women. Maybe like two, me included.

jubilance1922 10-05-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334075)
II doubt I would ever go to a bar, club, or lounge named Plantation, even if Michael Ealy himself was there. But I also don't plan to live in a subdvision or on a street with the word plantation in it. But that's just me.:)

Co-sign...When I lived in Atlanta there were so many subdivisions and apt. complexes with the word "plantation" in them...I could never bring myself to live somewhere with that name in it...

CrimsonTide4 10-05-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1334086)
Co-sign...When I lived in Atlanta there were so many subdivisions and apt. complexes with the word "plantation" in them...I could never bring myself to live somewhere with that name in it...

Same with Charlotte. :) I just can't go there.

To Dionysus, well I don't know what to tell you other than suck it up.

Dionysus 10-05-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FeeFee (Post 1334049)
I suggest that you find other places in your area to patronize. I'm sure all of the Black women aren't holed up in their homes all the time. You can always find some Black women and ask them where they go to hang out.

If I find other places to patronize, it still doesn't change the fact I almost never see any black women at mainstream bar/clubs/whatever (in STL). None of the black women I know are into that stuff, except one.

I wish there were other St. Louisans on here....I'm not crazy (ok I am), but I"m not blind.

Dionysus 10-05-2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334050)
Come to Charlotte. I'll take you to The V Lounge and you will see 2 floors of Black women drinking and dancing. I, on the other hand, will sit outside with a book. :p

ETA: There are Black men there as well. And this was directed to Dionysus, the preponderer of Black women at bars, lounges, and clubs in America.

I am not speaking for all bars in America. I stated in my OP that maybe it was only a STL thing. But, I have the feeling it isn't.

Dionysus 10-05-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1334071)
I was going to reply to this thread and say "Because I live in Idaho!" but that would be wrong as I do see Black women at the bar. The distinction is that I actually see more African students than American Black women but they are here. However it is a university town and we are small and welcoming so everyone goes everywhere and BS is pretty much not tolerated by staff or patrons of booze establishments. I even see Black people at The Plantation bar, which some find ironic. We affectionately call it The Plant and the only problems there are when some sings some tragic karaoke.

WTH???? LMAO

Yeah, I"m talking about American black women. Please don't tell me you see AMERICAN black people at the Plantation Bar. :eek:

Dionysus 10-05-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1334086)
Co-sign...When I lived in Atlanta there were so many subdivisions and apt. complexes with the word "plantation" in them...I could never bring myself to live somewhere with that name in it...

I live only a mile from a street called "plantation".

RU OX Alum 10-05-2006 05:57 PM

I don't really want to live in a subdivision. I like condos.

Tom Earp 10-05-2006 06:17 PM

Maybe some people do not have their eyes open?:rolleyes:

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 10-05-2006 09:16 PM

oops
 
I own a home in a Charlotte "plantation":( damn ya'll are making me feel bad...nahhhh I like my spot....and my friends and I frequent bars in downtown Charlotte....Fox and Hound, Cosmos, Therapy....there are usually only a handful of Black females at these spots....I'm kinda past the club scene but I enjoy a nice lounge....

GeekyPenguin 10-05-2006 09:37 PM

I see black women at bars all the time - but maybe that's because I usually go with my black friends. ;)

orighu 10-05-2006 09:48 PM

i hate the smoke
 
most bars to me are smoke filled places and i hate having that smell in my clothes and in my hair - so i prefer the club or smoke free lounge

Dionysus 10-05-2006 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin (Post 1334364)
I see black women at bars all the time - but maybe that's because I usually go with my black friends. ;)

I got out with my one of my pledge daughters on occasion, she's black. But, we still don't see any other black women. She'll go to places I won't go (The Rusty Pick-up Inn).

Let me stop, lol.

Dionysus 10-05-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by orighu (Post 1334374)
most bars to me are smoke filled places and i hate having that smell in my clothes and in my hair - so i prefer the club or smoke free lounge

An alum claimed she didn't like bars for the same reason. I always thought she was joking.

Dionysus 10-05-2006 10:36 PM

I want to change this thread into "How come -insert group- does.....?" You know like the Y forum, that was popular in the late 90's/early 00's. I don't know if it's still up. But, I remember reading some funny stuff on there like "Why do white women put their feet on dashboards?" or "Why do older men wear their pants higher on their hips?".

VandalSquirrel 10-05-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1334107)
WTH???? LMAO

Yeah, I"m talking about American black women. Please don't tell me you see AMERICAN black people at the Plantation Bar. :eek:

Yes actually there are American Black people at the Plant almost every time I go there. My job held a function there and I sat with my friend, and she is a Black woman from Alabama. We're going to have another event there in the future. Come to think of it I don't think the African students go there, just the American ones. A writer for the student paper published a run down of local bars and said something along the lines of don't go to the Plantation if you're Black and the owners pulled all their advertisements. Most people call in the Plant, and like I said, this town is accepting and if someone did something out of line anywhere the staff and patrons wouldn't tolerate it. I know my boss was on a softball team 30 years ago, and the Plant was their sponsor so I think the name recognition is why it hasn't changed.

Sistermadly 10-05-2006 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1334046)
:D

Dionysus acts like all the Black women sit around at home reading and going to church in St Louis.

You mean we aren't?

FAB*SpiceySpice 10-06-2006 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1334098)
If I find other places to patronize, it still doesn't change the fact I almost never see any black women at mainstream bar/clubs/whatever (in STL). None of the black women I know are into that stuff, except one.

I wish there were other St. Louisans on here....I'm not crazy (ok I am), but I"m not blind.

Ok I never lived in STL, but I lived in Columbia, which isn't far and I've spent an enormous amount of time out and about in STL. I have to say I agree with you, especially if you're at some of the places in West County, but also down in Soulard, The Landing, or the Loop. I dunno, I've been out in places all over STL, and it seems to me like you do have a valid point about this. :p

Btw D, have you ever been to Lafayette Pub? I went there once and that was definitely an...interesting (?) experience. I actually saw a girl have sex with a guy in a bar, standing right in front of me...:eek: :eek: :eek:

Also, this thread has really made me miss Big Daddy's, McGurks, Harpos, and all the other places I used to frequent and I'm jealous that you're in STL and I'm not. :(

/hijack


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