Amish School Shooting
 

At least six people are dead after a man entered a one-room Amish school house and opened fire before shooting himself.

http://www.wgal.com/news/9981693/detail.html

I just read that too...it's terrifying.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/...NlYwNtZW5ld3M-

This is the 4th fatal school shooting this month. This is scary.

More news is being released... it's getting more and more twisted.

A teacher at the school called police around 10:36 a.m., saying that hostages had been taken, said Miller. Miller said officers responded and that Roberts, who was armed with an automatic handgun and a shotgun, could easily see them. Miller said Roberts had forced many of the children to line up against the blackboard and that he bound their feet with wire ties and flex cuffs. Miller said that it appears when Roberts shot the children, they were shot execution style.

Oh good lord...

and reading this article here makes me pissed. This is about cutting the funding for school safety.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/...fety_funding_1

As much as I'm a conservative, I DON'T get why the Bush admin has the cut the funding while shootings seem to get worse...

My prayers go with the victims family....

The Amish?:mad: SMH

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/...chool_shooting
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/02/ami...ion=cnn_latest

I guess now's not an appropriate time for a Rumspringa reference, huh?

Seriously...Amish shooting??:confused: :confused: :( :(

This is crazy....the Amish!?!?!

These incidents stem way further than your basic school safety. Something is wrong with our society period. Human life means nothing...

And this is the second one where females/girls were targeted. :(

While I agree with your comments, I doubt that this would make much difference in an Amish one room school.

Some of the first pictures from the scene are really amazing -- modern patrol cars parked next to horse and buggys.

These situations are really sick.

Two more of the young girls died ovenight.

Just to clarify something: Shooter was NOT Amish. Seems as if the school was "just convenent" for him.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...LS.xml&src=rss

Sick and so much more......

And this story was the first news I heard after services yesterday..:( :mad:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15113706/

10 myths about school shootings
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15111438/

You are so right. I just heard the Commissioner give a list of things the perp had purchased within the last few days, and by the amount of KY jelly he purchased, he was one sick puppy. Also, if you remember that he made a mention of something that happened twenty years ago? He molested several young (I think he said "cousins") at that time.

Ten girls - five are dead, and one is in very critical condition. I could cry.

The actions of one sick individual don't say anything about society not valuing human life. If anything, the majority's outcry of disbelief proves the contrary.

Maybe b/c only a very, very small number of shootings occur each year and it has been determined that event SWAT teams and metal detectors would not have made a difference? Or that school shootings have become significantly less prevalent?

Thanks for the link.

I just read that on CNN today. I have no words....

There is a thread in DST Blvd called "Say What" (we're on version 4 now) that you should visit. Sadly its more than just one or two sick individuals. Violence against woman and children are becoming more commonplace. And that says something about our society in general.

How the hell can you shoot an Amish person? :mad: :mad:

Not that every school shooting isn't sick but this one is even above and beyond!!! :mad:

I agree; this guy was very sick and troubled...and that I fear those words do not even start to cover it....and just talking about "the pain and suffering" he caused only just starts to cover, in MHO, what his families and friends and those of his victums are now going through.....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217240,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/ami...ing/index.html

But I do have to agree, with comments made at press conference, that out of all groups, perhaps the Amish as group may be able to handle (if one can ever truly handle anything like this ) this kind of tragity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

I'm going out on a limb and say that the perp was more than "troubled". He was a coward. No matter what his problems were, he chose to invade a community that is non-violent by definition. Then he chose a school - so that the people involved would be mostly under 14. Then he let the boys go free. Then he used a form of handcuffs on these little girls - very non-street smart little girls. Then when he heard the state police, he shot those little girls execution style, then shot himself. That is NOT the work of a sophisticated killer, it's the work of a coward.

Of the little girls who are dead, there were two sets of sisters. Another little girl was shot in the upper back, instead of head - we can only pray that she won't be paralyzed.

And this coward left a family who will have to live with this the rest of their lives.

Sorry, but this has me angry, as well as hurt. People don't realize how much most locals care about "our" Amish.

I really agree with everything you said but one: As far as I know and have heard or read, he chose this school not because it was Amish. Yes, he chose a school but this one was simply near by and convenent.:(

I agree!!! They were definatly victims of opportunity. Not that all school shoting are sad but in this one it's hard to find any reasoning AT ALL!!! This one also hits me hard because I grew up a couple of hours away from Lancaster and my family and I would go the Amish country a great deal. They are just such kind people I just can't wrap my mind around this at all!! I will be really interested as all the details in this come to light.

Yes, this guy was a total nut case. He apparently had a grudge about an infant daugther that passed away a few years ago. These poor little girls he targeted would have been roughtly the same age of his late daughter had she lived. He walked into the school waiving his gun around and asking "Do you know what this is?" according to some of the news reports.

I couldn't imagine the horror. Just like the Russian school that was invaded a few years ago...these are LITTLE CHILDREN that are being targeted.

All I can say about this recent rash of school shootings is that it is a good thing these shooters have taken themselves out (at least 2 of the 3 shooters) to spare the families more grief, etc., dealing with the justice system.

And, the Amish who keep to themselves, are now thrust into this public eye for something that is so horrible.

I am literally sick when I think of those poor girls. That would be like someone going into one of my kids' classrooms.

Just a note: most Amish do not have insurance. Their medical bills are going to be outrageous. Think about donating if you see reliable organizations collecting to help the Amish community. I may be involved with this and if I hear anything I will pass info along.

jess_pom; I agree with all your points. In all the media reports that I have seen or heard, while officials have reached out to the area Leaders asking what "outsiders" can do there has not been any reply as of yet. Outside of a request for mantaining privacy of families.

We, as outsiders, should remember that this is a group that does support each other.

So, perhaps we should all in our own way give good thoughts and wait untill there is some official notification.

Sadly, this was one of my first thoughts. Many hospitals in the area have funds for such a thing, but there could be years of therapy needed for the girls who were shot but didn't pass away.

I just found out that as soon as possible they're going to burn down the school and rebuild. I bet the whole undertake will be done in less than a week.

Apparently, Fred Phelps and his band of assholes are planning on protesting the funerals. :mad: :mad:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/9999816/de...s=phi&psp=news

I hope Big Ed sics every single state cop from east to west on these idiots.

Just saw that too. I can not say what is on my mind right now. Just upset over the very thought:mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :(

It pisses me off how they've claimed "baptist" as their name, when they're not connected to any Baptist organization.

You guys needs to recheck the link because the protest has been cancelled. Appearantly a deal was made.

Good - but I wouldn't put it past them to go through with the protest, anyway.

I now feel real sorry for those who live or work anywhere near where Mike Gallagher's show is done.

Thank you for sharing that. The very thought of those children having to relive that trauma every day was just too horrifying!

While it was not burnt down, school building was taking down today:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/12/ami....ap/index.html

Well he did study at Bob Jones "University" (although they booted him for being a psycho)...

Anyways its to bad that the WBC didn't learn an important lesson about Christian teachings from the Amish children's actions during the shooting, and the Amish community's response to the shootings - a finer example of alturism, and forgiving your enemy I can't think of.

Yes, I completely agree. I couldn't even imagine what that takes to come out and say "I forgive" after something that horrible.

http://www.inyork.com/news/ci_4496094

Fundraising update

Pennsylvania and Colorado authorities have been sharing crime scene information, photos and other information since there are similarities between the Amish and Platte Valley situations.