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Taualumna 09-29-2006 02:17 PM

AI in fiction: an interesting question
 
How would you react if someone came out with a novel about a young woman pursuing AI?

kddani 09-29-2006 02:22 PM

I'm sure it would cause an uproar around GC.

I don't know that it would make much of an interesting story.

Taualumna 09-29-2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising (Post 1330287)
I think it would be kind of boring. What would the book be about during the lulls when nothing happens lol.


Well, she'd either be hanging out with her friends or dealing with other issues that young women have. AI would only be part of the story.

Buttonz 09-29-2006 03:14 PM

It might not be that bad of AI was only a small section of the book...but it also might make it seem like AI is an easy and accepted practice, while we know in most (if not all) NPC's it isn's, and it might make more people try to AI for the wrong reasons.

Taualumna 09-29-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buttonz (Post 1330328)
It might not be that bad of AI was only a small section of the book...but it also might make it seem like AI is an easy and accepted practice, while we know in most (if not all) NPC's it isn's, and it might make more people try to AI for the wrong reasons.

Define "small". Say, she finds her GLO early on (i.e. not much "sorority shopping") and starts hanging out with them as the alumnae association invites her to events. It would be about 20-25% of the plot.

greekalum 09-29-2006 03:27 PM

Why is this woman pursuing AI? As a character I'd have the same questions I'd have about a real woman doing this, esp one with no prior connection.

Buttonz 09-29-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330344)
Define "small". Say, she finds her GLO early on (i.e. not much "sorority shopping") and starts hanging out with them as the alumnae association invites her to events. It would be about 20-25% of the plot.

It all depends what hte obok is like...but at the same time, I'd be afraid that it might make more people look into AI for the wrong reasosn.

kddani 09-29-2006 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330344)
Define "small". Say, she finds her GLO early on (i.e. not much "sorority shopping") and starts hanging out with them as the alumnae association invites her to events. It would be about 20-25% of the plot.

What reader out there would care? What nongreek would care? Why would this even be interesting?

I know and understand the AI process and I think it's boring. I can't see how a non greek or a greek who doesn't understand the AI process would care or not be bored.

adpiucf 09-29-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1330349)
What reader out there would care? What nongreek would care? Why would this even be interesting?

I know and understand the AI process and I think it's boring. I can't see how a non greek or a greek who doesn't understand the AI process would care or not be bored.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Sounds like a really boring book. No publisher is going to bite with that type of story line. Where's the hook?

Besides, there's already a book called AI. It's by Issac Asimov. :D

Taualumna 09-29-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum (Post 1330345)
Why is this woman pursuing AI? As a character I'd have the same questions I'd have about a real woman doing this, esp one with no prior connection.

So you're questioning *MY REASON* for AIing then?

As for why this woman is AIing, well, that'll give away the ending.

I can't really say anymore about the storyline as the book has not officially been announced yet.

Unregistered- 09-29-2006 03:36 PM

If you're going to write a story, leave AI out of it.

Some members are successful AIs because of their own individual circumstances. Taualumna, while you're familiar with your own AI experiences, writing about the process might give a false representation of it -- and that's something no one really wants.

Honestly, this is getting friggin' ridiculous. AI in FICTION! AI on LUNCHBOXES! AI on A BOX OF WHEATIES!

Enough already!

valkyrie 09-29-2006 03:37 PM

It's a dumb idea for a book.

Taualumna 09-29-2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1330355)
If you're going to write a story, leave AI out of it.

Some members are successful AIs because of their own individual circumstances. Taualumna, while you're familiar with your own AI experiences, writing about the process might give a false representation of it -- and that's something no one really wants.

Honestly, this is getting friggin' ridiculous. AI in FICTION! AI on LUNCHBOXES! AI on A BOX OF WHEATIES!

Enough already!

I'm sorry, OTW, but the book is done. The only thing left is an official announcement.

adpiucf 09-29-2006 03:40 PM

Darn it OTW... I was going to title my first book, "Sorority Shopping!"

You've crushed my dream... ;) I'm going to go and cry myself to sleep now.

tunatartare 09-29-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330363)
I'm sorry, OTW, but the book is done. The only thing left is an official announcement.

So why ask for opinions on it after it's been written? Especially in the midst of all the AI controversy.

Unregistered- 09-29-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330363)
I'm sorry, OTW, but the book is done. The only thing left is an official announcement.

My condolences then. I really think you've made a bad move.

ETA: I hope you've added a disclaimer regarding the AI process. I'd hate for any of your readers to think that this is what really happens when a woman decides to pursue membership this way.

adpiucf 09-29-2006 03:41 PM

You honestly found a publisher for this? Wow.

greekalum 09-29-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330354)
So you're questioning *MY REASON* for AIing then?

As for why this woman is AIing, well, that'll give away the ending.

I can't really say anymore about the storyline as the book has not officially been announced yet.

Just because something actually happened doesn't mean it makes for compelling or believable narrative.

By "done" do you mean written? Represented by an agent? Sold to a publisher?

Buttonz 09-29-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330363)
I'm sorry, OTW, but the book is done. The only thing left is an official announcement.

Are you serious?

greekalum 09-29-2006 03:44 PM

Oh, I forgot this was the short people's rights person. I expect we'll see this book at our local Barnes and Noble around the same time her pet poodle AIs.

Buttonz 09-29-2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330375)
Yes.

:eek:

KSUViolet06 09-29-2006 03:49 PM

I don't think I'd read it. It sounds boring.

I don't think your average American reader would buy it. In order to be interested in the story, you'd have to know what AI is. Most GREEKS don't know what AI is so I don't expect any guy on the street to know either. The average American barely knows what sororities and fraternities are (outside of what they see in TV/movies).

kddani 09-29-2006 03:51 PM

I think you should've run this idea through the test market here first...

greekalum 09-29-2006 03:52 PM

I think that's what she's doing. She's written it, and she's looking for support that this is a viable novel subject to help sell it to a publisher.

AChiOhSnap 09-29-2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy (Post 1330369)
So why ask for opinions on it after it's been written? Especially in the midst of all the AI controversy.

Just what I was thinking...

Why stir up trouble if you were just going to do it anyway?

Buttonz 09-29-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1330383)
Just what I was thinking...

Why stir up trouble if you were just going to do it anyway?

Because some people like to create trouble, that's why....and other people just want to hear opinions, even if they know that most of them won't agree.

aopirose 09-29-2006 04:03 PM

Wouldn't read it. Silly subplot.

_Lisa_ 09-29-2006 04:05 PM

Hell I'm bored just reading about a book like the one you've suggested.

valkyrie 09-29-2006 04:13 PM

Will the main character be petite, and will her new sorority sisters join her fight to provide fashionable clothing for the underrepresented petite women of the world?

Taualumna 09-29-2006 04:56 PM

OK. I made a mistake. I shouldn't have posted this. Will someone please close/delete it?

THanks

aopirose 09-29-2006 05:11 PM

It wasn't a mistake. You asked for opinions and you got them. Your AI subplot is silly. What is the rest of the book about? Maybe you could beef up those parts.

Taualumna 09-29-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 1330426)
It wasn't a mistake. You asked for opinions and you got them. Your AI subplot is silly. What is the rest of the book about? Maybe you could beef up those parts.

Typical chicklit sillyness. Finding oneself/friend issues/man issues/parent issues.

greekalum 09-29-2006 05:28 PM

Again, is this book with a publisher already?

aopirose 09-29-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330435)
Typical chicklit sillyness. Finding oneself/friend issues/man issues/parent issues.

Stick to that and leave the AI part out. Even if it is fiction, some readers like to feel that it could be them and how they would handle the situation. AI, in any form, much less self-recommendation, isn't a vaild option for most women.

TrueBlueKappa 09-29-2006 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising (Post 1330427)
Oh my. I thought this was a joke thread at first.

Me, too!

Taualumna 09-29-2006 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 1330445)
Stick to that and leave the AI part out. Even if it is fiction, some readers like to feel that it could be them and how they would handle the situation. AI, in any form, much less self-recommendation, isn't a vaild option for most women.

Like I said earlier, too late.

aopirose 09-29-2006 05:43 PM

So what's the name of your book?

greekalum 09-29-2006 05:43 PM

So when can we purchase this?

valkyrie 09-29-2006 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taualumna (Post 1330435)
Typical chicklit sillyness.

That's an unflattering way to refer to something you've written. Anyway, does the world need more typical chick lit?

adpiucf 09-29-2006 05:58 PM

What world needs now
Is Lit
ChickLit

It's the only thing
That there's just too little of....


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