Bush said the war in Iraq will go down in history as only a comma.
 

I wonder does the parents of the troops whose children were killed or wounded agree w/ that assessment, this just proves how much of a (F)ing idiot Bush really is. Maybe if Bush and side kicks Dick & Rummey had fought a war instead ducking and hiding he would have the sense and honor not to make such a stupid statement.

Man, it would really be awesome if uninformed people attempting to act like political pundits would quit starting threads with the sole purpose of deriding our president...

I wish stupid neo-cons would quit trying to devert attention from the real issues like I said Bush stated that the war in Iraq would go down in history as a comma...now disprove that....or disprove the fact that Bush quit the air reserves....or the fact that Dick abused the deferment program.

You mean that it is part of a larger war on terror, which is what Bush was referring to? I'm sorry, I guess they don't include context when giving you the democratic talking points huh. Why don't you read the Washington Post for a week or two, then come back and try again.

Bullsh*t. The war in Iraq according to Bush is the center peice in the war on terrorism at least thats what he said in the defense of the war, now that it has turned into a disaster it will go down in history as only a comma? The fact that Iraq was attacked in response to the worst terrorist attack in America's history (which by the way Iraq had nothing to do with.).. only a fool would think that the world would see this war as only a comma in the war on terrorism.

I'd advise you to read "Bush at War" by Bob Woodward, since you obviously know absolutely nothing about the lead up to the war in Iraq. So many liberals throw around claims that Bush was like "well this is our excuse, lets go..." which obviously wasn't what happened. Bob Woodward is no fan of the administration, but its a good book...and probably a better place to get your information than Michael Moore's blog.

Read worst then watergate by John W. Dean .(see there is always somebody w/a book) Bottom line is the facts are the facts Iraq had nothing to do w/ Sept 11th yet over a hundred and thirty thousand Iraqis are dead, over 2,600 American lives have been lossed and many more are wounded. All b/c our idiot president went after the wrong nation instead of going hard after Bin-Laden, then the fool has the gall to say that this mess will go down in history as a comma...even Generals are bashing Bush on his screwups on the Iraq war...or shall I say the comma.

You must be referring to the war in Iraq, which the majority of democrats voted for...so "all b/c our idiot president" is completely false.

You neo-cons are always coming w/ that crap b/c you can't defend against the fact it was Bush and his henchmen who scared people into this war. Iraq is a lost cause yet Bush wants to stay the course.....which is easy for him to say since he doesn't even know the meaning of fighting for his country. I quess that explains why he believes this war will go down in history as a comma.

So you're telling me that democratic senators on the intelligence comm. were "scared" into going to Iraq? Liberals are always like "We were misled!" well, if they were misled, that just shows how idiotic they are...considering they had access to most of the classified information we used to go to war...I like Bush, but I don't think he has the ability to mislead anyone. If anyone is being deceptive, its the left lying consistantly to the American people about Bush's involvement in 9/11, Iraq war, hurricane Katrina, gas prices, its simply amazing. Yes, Bush wakes up every day and punches in the price of gas. Its a GOP election ploy. Ohhhh the stupidity.

With absolutely no sources, this thread is completely ridiculous.

I noticed you have yet to defend Bush calling the war in Iraq a comma.

I have yet to see a source for this comment.

I could say that Clinton called 9/11 an insignificant speck of dust, but it doesn't mean he actually said it.

The comment was not for you but since you responded, Bush made the comment that the Iraq war would go down in history as a comma in an interview w/ Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200609250005

Go look for yourself. He's obviously referring to this period in Iraq as "just a comma" when people in the future look at Iraq's history. Its not in any way offensive or demeaning. It may not have been the best choice of words, but I wouldn't even call it a poorly chosen phrase.

Typical liberal attempting to make a completely benign statement into something it isn't.

The link you posted is close, but I have still yet to find a source that doesn't take the comment out of context. I agree with shinerbock that Bush was saying that FROM IRAQ'S viewpoint, this will be just a comma...he was talking about how it affects the US, he's talking about how it affects Iraq.

Yeah, I wasn't really paying attention to the article, just the video feed. Its pretty apparent he's talking about it from the Iraqi perspective, but we'd really even need a longer clip to get the full context.

I must support my Brother on this. I won't call Bush any names, but he is clearly overmatched in everything except his ability to be a likeable dupe who can sell flawed conservative rhetoric to the people, whilst the true leaders of this country ply their deceit in obscurity and anonymity.

Yes, to many, Bush is a charming and disarming, rather agreeable fellow. Yet, he is vapid, ill equipped, ill informed, and ill suited to lead a nation.

I'd like to know just what that "flawed conservative rhetoric" is, and just what is the better solution. In fact, I'd love to know.

It's not offensive to you b/c your not a seviceman fighting in Bush's foolish war nor are you an Iraqi whose family members have died.

So the fact that Iraq is in worst shape now then it was under Saddam or the fact that 50 - 60 + bodies are being found in streets a week....you're telling me this won't have any long term effects on the Iraqi people........that's like saying 9/11 will just go down in history as a comma.

AMEN !!!!

So you're saying its blanketly offensive to servicemen? I'm sure you have a strong grasp on their feelings, since liberals constantly say "our military people want out! they hate Bush!" Which is totally untrue. You're trying to create drama where it doesn't exist. Thats what people with no ideas do.

Yes I do have a grasp of the feelings of many service men and yes many of the US military really want out. Many service men & women want out of this bogus war so bad but they can't admit it in a public forum and nobody hates Bush we just feel he is incompetent.......as far as having no ideals I quess you think it was a great ideal to attack Iraq......just like most right wingers who enjoy talking about war as long as they don't have to fight.

So right, you didn't answer either question, I'll remind you...

1) You're saying all or the majority of US service men and women oppose the war?

2) What ideas is your party presenting, other than getting out...you can blame Bush as much as you want, but Democrats did their fair share in putting people in Iraq.

I do believe most oppose the war but b/c of the oath they pledge they can't openly oppose the war, and I don't have a party I vote for the best canidate unlike you. I think the facts about the war in Iraq will come out the truth always does and according to many Bush decieved the congress and the American people.....read Bob Woodward new book State of denial since you enjoy Mr. Woodward books.

Ummm ex-servicemember here who walked way from 13 years (more than halfway to retirement) of service because the Commander in Chief is an idiot...I CAN speak from first hand knowledge and I WAS deployed twice post 9/11.....most servicemembers that I served with, know, and communicate with HATE THE WAR....so this is a 1st hand account...shit is not getting better in Iraq or the middle east as a whole....sit around and read the Washington Post all freaking day but pull two stints as a single parent having to leave your child behind over Bush's bullshit and then we'll talk....THE DRAMA IS THERE...on every base where fathers and mothers don't come home...I hate it when people who are sitting at home in comfort talk about what "soldiers" feel about the war...

.......and there you have it.

So...a liberal service member is against the war, and there I have it? By the way, I appreciate your service, but I'd counter by saying just about everyone I knew from school who went to Iraq/Afghanistan supports the President. The large majority of them are Marines, but a couple were Army guys as well.

There you go again talking about what some one said or did this young lady can talk the talk b/c she walked the walk in other words her talk is backed up by her actions.

Yeah, good point. And by good, I mean terrible, confusing, and irrational.

Okay I'll break it down the young lady who stated that she served in action trumps a Bush groupie sitting @ home saying the war is going great and all the troops agree w/ Bush.

I can only go on what I know and what I've heard from my military friends. Whomever posted on the subject knows about her situation and the people she was around. I claim to have no first hand knowledge, rather only what I'm told by friends who've served. Presenting a biased witness doesn't really aid your claim.

Lets try this:

Paste where I said all the soldiers agree with Bush.

What, you can't? Thats surprising, another statement you can't back up, unbelievable.

Since you can only go on what friends have reveal to you I'll take the view point of those who know first hand about war....and I don't think she is biased...maybe when you get the balls to fight for your buddy Bush you would understand.



oh my bad Bush never fought either did he...he just quit the military.

One thing no one has discussed is the actual meaning of "comma".

com·ma
n.
1. Grammar. A punctuation mark ( , ) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within the structure of a sentence.
2. A pause or separation; a caesura.
3. Any of several butterflies of the genus Polygonia, having wings with brownish coloring and irregularly notched edges.

caesura 
n.
1. Prosody. a break, esp. a sense pause, usually near the middle of a verse, and marked in scansion by a double vertical line, as in know then thyself presume not God to scan.
2. Classical Prosody. a division made by the ending of a word within a foot, or sometimes at the end of a foot, esp. in certain recognized places near the middle of a verse.
3. any break, pause, or interruption.

In the highlighted definition, a comma would be an accurate description of what is happening to the history of Iraq.
Plus, it wouldn't hurt some of us to have a grammatical review of commas, to keep posts from being one long run-on mishmash of verbal regurgitation.

Ax, so what you're telling me is that you'll take the opinion of someone who knows firsthand about the war, being the other person on here. Thats fine, and understandable, ESPECIALLY SINCE ITS THE SAME THING I'VE DONE.

The difference is the person who post a response served in war that's why I have to respect that person's opinion....not to mentioned that I worked two years @ the V.A hospital and about 99% of the clients (who returned from Iraq) were against this war.

I highly doubt 99%, but then I don't really consider you a valid source. I'll see if I can get a Marine friend to come on here.

Go volunteer @ a V.A hospital near you and leave your play-play friends alone.

you're known to talk about ususally only associating with a small southern "elite" (in your opinion) group of people....I've served with people from all walks of life...there are five branches of service....I was in AeroVac(medical evacuation)...so of course I was in contact with soldiers from all branches and demographics...the "feel good" footage thats shown around holidays of Bush and other administration members "being" with the troops is PR bullsh*t...you don't see the multitude of soldiers who don't want to be anywhere near his ass....I joined the Air Force 3 months after graduating high school...I'm considered a vet of Desert Storm also....I loved the Air Force and gained so much from serving....I know what I was signing up for when I took my oath....I didn't mind doing what I had to do for my country...BUT this war, the actrocitites that the average American doesn't see is not right...we are trying to push/no force our ideologies on these people....innocent people are dying daily....soldiers who are the average age of about 23 are dying....the "comma" that Bush spoke of...is because they/his administration know that no real change in the mindset of the people will change and years from now the middle east will not flourish in western thought....if I thought we were fighting the group of people who were responsible for 9/11 I would still be in today...but anyone with the good sense of a flea knows otherwise...the small amount of time spent in Afganistan was smoke and mirrors for a whole "nother" agenda...in the immortal words of P.E. Shin...don't believe the hype!!