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ann.coulter2 09-25-2006 04:28 PM

Clinton on TV
 
Questions like these from Larry King on CNN:

Now, the purpose of your initiative overall is to make the world a better place, right? . . .

And the four things it covers is to make the world a better place. . . .

Is it a better place? . . .

How's your health? . . .

The greatest thing you almost did was peace in the Middle East. . . .

or


Question from Chris Wallace on FOX: "Why didn't you do more to put [Osama] bin Laden and Al Qaeda out of business when you were president?"


So much for the Clinton legacy building - only on CNN in the future.

And it's guaranteed the his wife will never submit to any questions by any Fox person.

jon1856 09-25-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1327281)
Questions like these from Larry King on CNN:

Now, the purpose of your initiative overall is to make the world a better place, right? . . .

And the four things it covers is to make the world a better place. . . .

Is it a better place? . . .

How's your health? . . .

The greatest thing you almost did was peace in the Middle East. . . .

or


Question from Chris Wallace on FOX: "Why didn't you do more to put [Osama] bin Laden and Al Qaeda out of business when you were president?"


So much for the Clinton legacy building - only on CNN in the future.

And it's guaranteed the his wife will never submit to any questions by any Fox person.

"Ann" If you are going to provide the question, you should also provide the answer that President Clinton gave.

And what amount has he raised in the first two years of his initative?

Two seperate programs, two seperate issuse.

And I was watching FOX New this aftrernoon, and several panal members defended President Clinton.....

shinerbock 09-25-2006 07:37 PM

by two seperate issues, you must mean A) the issue on Fox, meaning Clinton's inept policy in deterring terrorism and B) the issue on CNN, which tries to bolster his image in order to aid his candidate wife and tarnish the current administration...

DeltAlum 09-25-2006 08:15 PM

I think it's pretty funny to see somebody take off on one of the Wallace boys.

KSigkid 09-25-2006 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1327339)
And I was watching FOX New this aftrernoon, and several panal members defended President Clinton.....

Which is interesting, since so many people on this site paint Fox News as being so biased...

Anyway, I hope no one would confuse Larry King with news. His questions are always softballs; that's not a CNN thing, that's a Larry King thing.

jon1856 09-25-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1327384)
by two seperate issues, you must mean A) the issue on Fox, meaning Clinton's inept policy in deterring terrorism and B) the issue on CNN, which tries to bolster his image in order to aid his candidate wife and tarnish the current administration...

No, Not at all....

MysticCat 09-26-2006 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1327453)
Anyway, I hope no one would confuse Larry King with news. His questions are always softballs; that's not a CNN thing, that's a Larry King thing.

Exactly. I figured that's why this thread is in the Entertainment forum rather than the News and Politics Forum. ;)

kstar 09-26-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1327384)
by two seperate issues, you must mean A) the issue on Fox, meaning Clinton's inept policy in deterring terrorism and B) the issue on CNN, which tries to bolster his image in order to aid his candidate wife and tarnish the current administration...

Clinton's inept policy? What was it that the military said not too long ago?

Oh yeah, there are more terrorists now than before 11 Sept. Clinton was so inept! His response to the 1995 OKC bombing was swifter and more logical than Bush's response to 11 Sept. I guess if Clinton was inept, Bush is incompetent.

shinerbock 09-26-2006 12:51 PM

Did you seriously just compare the Oklahoma City bombing to 9/11...There sure are a lot of caves in this country to hide in.

AlphaFrog 09-26-2006 12:55 PM

Last time I checked, Timothy McVey was not part of a huge kamikaze Terrorist group, with resources, leaders, and members all over the world. He was one single psycho (even if he was working for a "cause").

kstar 09-26-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1327776)
Last time I checked, Timothy McVey was not part of a huge kamikaze Terrorist group, with resources, leaders, and members all over the world. He was one single psycho (even if he was working for a "cause").

Still doesn't changet he fact that Clinton was swift yet catious with his actions, while Bush engaged us in a war we can't win.

Also, Terry Nichols? and the white supremecist militia movement? Did you even pay attention in 1995?

Sistermadly 09-26-2006 08:51 PM

Keith Olbermann on "a textbook definition of cowardice" and the right-wing brouhaha over Clinton's Fox News appearance:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15004160/

Don't just read the transcript - watch the video.

Munchkin03 09-26-2006 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1327776)
Last time I checked, Timothy McVey was not part of a huge kamikaze Terrorist group, with resources, leaders, and members all over the world. He was one single psycho (even if he was working for a "cause").

Ummm, Timothy McVeigh was a psycho, but he didn't exactly act alone.

I was just a teenager when that happened--but damn, I remember hearing about Terry Nichols, and there was at least one other person who spent some time in jail for not being exactly forthright with the information that he had.

shinerbock 09-26-2006 10:20 PM

The fact is, attempting to compare capturing 2 guys to overtaking a worldwide terrorist network is simply and utterly stupid. Speaking of Clinton's response, how'd he do on USS Cole? Oh nothing? Oh ok.

As for Keith Olbermann, he's an unabashed liberal, not at all a legitimate journalist. Hell, ESPN wouldn't even take him.

DeltAlum 09-26-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328278)
As for Keith Olbermann, he's an unabashed liberal, not at all a legitimate journalist. Hell, ESPN wouldn't even take him.

Yes, he certainly seems that way. Just as the president of, and many of the people on, FOX are unabashed conservatives.

In many cases, we aren't talking about journalists anymore, but rather personalities.

On both sides of the video aisle.

shinerbock 09-26-2006 10:37 PM

You'll get no debate from me that Fox is conservative. However, I think they're more inline with the everyday personalities on CNN or MSNBC, while Olbermann is FAR LEFT. At least Bill O concedes ground from time to time and criticizes his own party...

DeltAlum 09-26-2006 10:51 PM

Here's a quote I find curious from a "journalistic" standpoint from a story on the Fox News webpage in a story on Senator Clinton defending her husband:

"In the interview on "FOX News Sunday," which got its best ratings in nearly three years, Clinton accused Wallace of a "conservative hit job..."

Are any of the cable "News" networks really "journalistic?"

Sistermadly 09-27-2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328289)
...while Olbermann is FAR LEFT.

And THANK GOD for that.

shinerbock 09-27-2006 12:40 PM

Yes, I thank God all the time that we have radical liberals posing as unbiased journalists...I guess its only a bad thing if you prefer for the media to report the news, rather than persuade the general public.

_Opi_ 09-27-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1328300)

Are any of the cable "News" networks really "journalistic?"

LOL

RACooper 09-27-2006 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328609)
Yes, I thank God all the time that we have radical liberals posing as unbiased journalists...I guess its only a bad thing if you prefer for the media to report the news, rather than persuade the general public.

Bah... most of the "big news" in the US isn't really about journalism -> it's about the ratings... and radicals or "reporters" on the left or right (Oberman, O'Reilly, Dobbs, Beck, Covuto) all act as audience draws. It's unfortunate that in the battle for ratings and advertising revenue that these "journalists" are given a soap-box to spout from...

shinerbock 09-27-2006 03:06 PM

Of course they are. I'd actually be ok with Keith if they'd just make it out that his show is a liberal one. Nobody debates that Tucker or Oreilly are unbiased.

LaneSig 09-27-2006 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=shinerbock;1328707Nobody debates that Tucker or Oreilly are unbiased.[/QUOTE]

Except for O'Reilly. He thinks he's unbiased.

shinerbock 09-27-2006 05:08 PM

Well I'm no fan of him, but he really isn't straight party line really, neither is Tucker. They both criticize the GOP, but they are obviously conservative.

My comparisons, not on anything but political ideology

On Right....On Left
Tucker=Anderson Cooper
Oreilly=Chris Matthews
Limbaugh=Olbermann/Maher

jon1856 09-27-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328837)
Well I'm no fan of him, but he really isn't straight party line really, neither is Tucker. They both criticize the GOP, but they are obviously conservative.

My comparisons, not on anything but political ideology

On Right....On Left
Tucker=Anderson Cooper
Oreilly=Chris Matthews
Limbaugh=Olbermann/Maher

Very interesting list there. Well thought out.
Have a bonus question for you:
Which well known talker is not what they make themselves out to be?

The media business, for many reasons, is a very tight business for talkers, DJ's et al. So they do not market themselfs as what they are but for the need of the postition.

And no, the answer will not get posted here, but it is something to think about.

shinerbock 09-27-2006 05:46 PM

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but you may be speaking of Dr. Laura Schlessinger

jon1856 09-27-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328856)
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but you may be speaking of Dr. Laura Schlessinger

No-not her.
Just as the market place for actors has gotten tighter due to non-scripted shows, the same with "personalities". With canned show, less local shows, less live shows et al, there are more "personalities" than shows. So rather than saying they are rock DJ's , they mold themselves to be fans of Opra or country/western if there is a job opening some place. Same with politics and POV.

shinerbock 09-27-2006 06:19 PM

You're absolutely right about that. Its almost as if journalism and sports and entertainment has all merged, people move back and forth, while viewers presume that person to have extensive qualifications in whichever area they are currently working.

Sistermadly 09-27-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328840)
Which well known talker is not what they make themselves out to be?

Cooper, I think. It's been said he's a card-carrying member of the GOP.

Sistermadly 09-27-2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328609)
Yes, I thank God all the time that we have radical liberals posing as unbiased journalists...I guess its only a bad thing if you prefer for the media to report the news, rather than persuade the general public.

Baby, I live in Canada - where the real journalists are.

shinerbock 09-27-2006 10:14 PM

hahahaha, canada, always on the front edge of everything.

MysticCat 09-28-2006 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1328837)
Well I'm no fan of him, but he really isn't straight party line really, neither is Tucker.

Tucker Carlson, by his own admission, is definitely conservative as he understands conservatism (and adds, "by my criteria, Bush isn't much of a conservative") but also has a very wide libertarian streak. He has described himself as a "Libertarian right-winger." So I don't know that he feels too much investment in the Republican Party, except as the alternative to the Democratic Party. But it probably makes sense to "pair" him with Anderson Cooper like you did.

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Originally Posted by Sistermadly (Post 1329017)
Cooper, I think. It's been said he's a card-carrying member of the GOP.

That would make sense, given his family background. 'Course, that's not the only secret he's supposed to be keeping.

shinerbock 09-28-2006 11:00 AM

Anderson Cooper probably wouldnt mind being "paired" with Tucker...

MysticCat 09-28-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1329233)
Anderson Cooper probably wouldnt mind being "paired" with Tucker...

You had to go there, didn't you?

DeltAlum 09-28-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1329233)
Anderson Cooper probably wouldnt mind being "paired" with Tucker...

Here we go again. Why not just let the gay thing rest?

shinerbock 09-28-2006 12:37 PM

oh come on I got set up.

lyrelyre 09-28-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1328269)
Ummm, Timothy McVeigh was a psycho, but he didn't exactly act alone.

I was just a teenager when that happened--but damn, I remember hearing about Terry Nichols, and there was at least one other person who spent some time in jail for not being exactly forthright with the information that he had.

Michael Fortier

Sistermadly 09-28-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1329259)
Here we go again. Why not just let the gay thing rest?

<sarcasm>

Because it would be faaaaaaaaaaaabulous to have an openly gay news "personality" (notice I didn't say journalist) on television -- plus, he's a GOPer to boot. There's something there for everyone to love!

</sarcasm>

jon1856 10-03-2006 09:46 AM

Cartoons from the Op-Ed pages:
http://cagle.com/news/ClintonOsama/main.asp


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