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KillarneyRose 09-16-2006 06:29 PM

Dying Wish: Is this sweet or morbid?
 
I found this article about a terminally ill 17 year old who, through the Make-a-Wish Foundation, is realizing her dream of having a fancy wedding...

http://www.cleveland.com/lake/plaind...510.xml&coll=2

I feel so horrible because I want to be able to say, "That's so sweet!" but to tell you the truth, reading the article gave me the heebie jeebies.

Buttonz 09-16-2006 06:54 PM

I think it's a really sweet idea.

Lady of Pearl 09-16-2006 07:34 PM

How nice of them to grant this dying girl's wish, it brought tears to my eyes.

AlphaFrog 09-16-2006 07:42 PM

Why am I having flashbacks of "A Walk to Remember"?

Tom Earp 09-16-2006 07:51 PM

Why Morbid?

A dying child and The Wish Foundation give people good times before they Die!

Yes Die!

Not sure that would be mine at all for sure!

TrueBlueKappa 09-16-2006 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1322015)
Why am I having flashbacks of "A Walk to Remember"?

Exactly what I was thinking.

VAgirl18 09-16-2006 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueBlueKappa (Post 1322040)
Exactly what I was thinking.

co-sign

sugarplumfairy 09-16-2006 08:55 PM

That article about broke my heart. I think it's sweet.

Since her mother is a single mother, this will be a great memory for her too, as that is one of the huge regrets a mother has when they lose a daughter or a son, that they never get to see them married or have a child.

Even though she won't really be married, considering the insurance issue, they have come up with a great alternative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillarneyRose (Post 1321978)
I found this article about a terminally ill 17 year old who, through the Make-a-Wish Foundation, is realizing her dream of having a fancy wedding...

http://www.cleveland.com/lake/plaind...510.xml&coll=2

I feel so horrible because I want to be able to say, "That's so sweet!" but to tell you the truth, reading the article gave me the heebie jeebies.


AchtungBaby80 09-16-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1322042)
co-sign

Me, too.

valkyrie 09-16-2006 09:15 PM

Honestly, I think it's incredibly sad that this is the wish of a 17-year-old, and I'm kind of creeped out by the whole thing -- while recognizing that my opinion doesn't mean a damn thing to her or her family. But WTF, for real.

CutiePie2000 09-16-2006 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1322059)
Honestly, I think it's incredibly sad that this is the wish of a 17-year-old, and I'm kind of creeped out by the whole thing -- while recognizing that my opinion doesn't mean a damn thing to her or her family. But WTF, for real.

I'm with you, sister. It makes me think of 14 year olds in rural Utah being married off or something.

KSigkid 09-16-2006 11:46 PM

It's very nice that the girl got what she wanted - honestly, I can't imagine being in a situation where death was imminent, and I can't even begin to imagine what my first choices would be in that case.

When I was working in the hospital system in Boston, I heard a full range of requests from kids at Dana Farber who were chosen by Make-A-Wish. Because of that, her choice doesn't surprise me in the least.

It's nice to see that she got what may be one of her last happy moments.

Senusret I 09-17-2006 12:53 AM

I vote with the heebie jeebie contingent.

AKA_Monet 09-17-2006 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KillarneyRose (Post 1321978)
heebie jeebies.

I'm crackin' up 'cuz you sed "heebie jeebies" about a wedding...

James 09-17-2006 04:53 AM

I wonder . . . if a boy made a wish to have sex with a woman before he died, would the Foundation send him to Nevada? Well why not?

jon1856 09-17-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1322125)
I wonder . . . if a boy made a wish to have sex with a woman before he died, would the Foundation send him to Nevada? Well why not?

James;
While I do not know for sure, good bet that they do have some SOP that they run operation on.
Here is their web site-ask them:
http://www.wish.org/
http://www.wish.org/about/how_we_grant_wishes
http://www.wish.org/about/frequently_asked_questions

RU OX Alum 09-17-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1322015)
Why am I having flashbacks of "A Walk to Remember"?


because that movie was like this


how sad/sweet


kind of strange, but so is everything relating to the heart

i'm glad she got her wish, I hope she enjoyed her wedding night. ;)

You know the dude will have strange memories forever though, but good for him, its good he's doing/did this.

RU OX Alum 09-17-2006 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1322125)
I wonder . . . if a boy made a wish to have sex with a woman before he died, would the Foundation send him to Nevada? Well why not?


they would have to, now at least, otherwise they'd be trapped in their own PC paradox.

ISUKappa 09-17-2006 10:26 AM

Not maybe the most conventional wish, but why not? For most people the actual wedding part is just a big party, anyway.

BigRedBeta 09-17-2006 12:55 PM

I was pretty evenly split...I'm kind of creeped out by the whole implications for the "groom" to be, but my opinions don't really count for much anyway.

KillarneyRose 09-21-2006 03:04 PM

Here's a news video with footage from the ceremony. She was a lovely bride and seems very happy about it. I wish them well.

http://keyetv.com/topstories/local_story_260131824.html

33girl 09-21-2006 03:11 PM

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"He told me that when Adam and Eve were married in the Garden of Eden, that God was the one who performed the ceremony -- and they didn't need a marriage license either," Nicole said.

Umm OK. They didn't need a lot of other things, like building permits, either. :)

If they want to have a commitment ceremony that's fine, but I think there are probably people in her congregation (or denomination) that aren't crazy about it being performed by a minister in a church. It's not the same as a gay marriage because they COULD legally get married - they're just not because of the insurance.

I don't know, something about this just bugs me.

mulattogyrl 09-21-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1322101)
I vote with the heebie jeebie contingent.


Me too, but if it's what she wants, go for it.

OhSoVeryLadylike 09-21-2006 05:04 PM

Once I read the article for myself, I didn't find her wish to be weird AT ALL.

She and her boyfriend who proposed last summer, want to be together and IF she weren't going to dye, hopefully they would end up together. She is realistic enough to know that because of her illness, a wedding somewhere down the line simply wasn't going to be possible.

As for having a committment ceremony, due to insurance issues, sounds reasonable to me also.

I have CHF, to the tune of 90% heart failure. And at this time, I probably wouldn't MARRY a man without a great insurance plan, we'd be broke...

I commend her for knowing what she wanted. Some children choose to have state of the art electronic set ups, huge sweet 16s, really special vacation. She wanted to experience a wedding to her true love as she knows it right now.

f8nacn 09-21-2006 05:16 PM

To me, that is a reasonable request....what about those people who request to see someone famous...to me, this is something that those closest to her got to participate in and will remember upon her death! It really showed the commitment level of her boyfriend - I think it is great!

ufdale 09-21-2006 05:25 PM

If I was dying, I know that this would be my wish! Getting married is one of those big milestones in life in addition to having children and watching them grow up (which she'll never have or get to see). What should she do as her last wish? Go to Disney world?! lol
I also love how her boyfriend is staying by her side even though it must be tough for him to know she'll die and watch her decline. I wonder how long they've been together.

xo_kathy 09-21-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1324945)
If they want to have a commitment ceremony that's fine, but I think there are probably people in her congregation (or denomination) that aren't crazy about it being performed by a minister in a church.

So? What concern is it of them? If it bothers them that much, they should change churches. The Methodists are a farily liberal crew anyway, so I doubt too many people cared - especially giving the circumstances.

In terms of the wish, I also don't see the creepiness of it. Yes she's young, but it's not like she's 13. She knows she's gonna die, it's a huge life event she wanted to experience, that's it.

Drolefille 09-21-2006 09:29 PM

I think it's sweet. And I suspect the only major difference is that they won't be signing a marriage license at the end.

If some people are more concerned about the assumed extra-marital sex that will be happening on the honeymoon then what this is really about, then they need more things to do with all that time on their hands.

RU OX Alum 09-21-2006 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhSoVeryLadylike (Post 1325068)
Once I read the article for myself, I didn't find her wish to be weird AT ALL.

She and her boyfriend who proposed last summer, want to be together and IF she weren't going to dye, hopefully they would end up together. She is realistic enough to know that because of her illness, a wedding somewhere down the line simply wasn't going to be possible.

As for having a committment ceremony, due to insurance issues, sounds reasonable to me also.

I have CHF, to the tune of 90% heart failure. And at this time, I probably wouldn't MARRY a man without a great insurance plan, we'd be broke...

I commend her for knowing what she wanted. Some children choose to have state of the art electronic set ups, huge sweet 16s, really special vacation. She wanted to experience a wedding to her true love as she knows it right now.


Exactly, especially the last line. Love conquers all. Even Death.

MTSUGURL 09-21-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1325304)
If some people are more concerned about the assumed extra-marital sex that will be happening on the honeymoon then what this is really about, then they need more things to do with all that time on their hands.

They made a point to say that the mother would be chaperoning the honeymoon.

She looked lovely, and he looked happy. I think it's a little odd, but very sweet.

starang21 09-21-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1322015)
Why am I having flashbacks of "A Walk to Remember"?

i saw that movie...but i didn't.....refresh my memory?

f8nacn 09-21-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1325304)
If some people are more concerned about the assumed extra-marital sex that will be happening on the honeymoon then what this is really about, then they need more things to do with all that time on their hands.

I'm sure not much will be going on during their honeymoon as her mom will be chaperoning their trip!

RU OX Alum 09-21-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn (Post 1325361)
I'm sure not much will be going on during their honeymoon as her mom will be chaperoning their trip!



oh, now that's some bull sh*t, that poor guy......and girl, before she dies of cancer. They should get that experinece she is 17 in love and dying :(

James 09-22-2006 02:11 AM

It would be funny if mom was like, "you are too young to have sex . . ."

Will she follow it up with a wait till you are older speech?

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn (Post 1325361)
I'm sure not much will be going on during their honeymoon as her mom will be chaperoning their trip!


AlphaFrog 09-22-2006 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1325334)
i saw that movie...but i didn't.....refresh my memory?

It's a Mandy Moore movie, where this guy is a big pain in the ass jerk, and then he gets caught doing something wrong and is "sentenced" to tutoring underprivileged kids, and to the Drama club (WTF the drama club??, oh well), both programs that of course, Mandy Moore is a part of. So they fall in love and then she tells him she has terminal cancer so they get married and she dies. The End.

ETA: That's some BS too about the honeymoon. I remember the episode of "Dinosaurs" where they talk about "The Mating Dance" that "should only be done in the confines of a loving, monogamous relationship, preferably marriage". If they're having a "commitment ceremony" they're obviously in a monogamous relationship (probably moreso then some people who are actually MARRIED), and she's going to die anyway, what's the difference if they actually get to have sex??? Come on mom...let her be a teen. Unless the guy is "saving himself" for his "real wife" later...in which case, he probably shouldn't have gone through with the wedding in the first place.

starang21 09-22-2006 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1325480)
It's a Mandy Moore movie, where this guy is a big pain in the ass jerk, and then he gets caught doing something wrong and is "sentenced" to tutoring underprivileged kids, and to the Drama club (WTF the drama club??, oh well), both programs that of course, Mandy Moore is a part of. So they fall in love and then she tells him she has terminal cancer so they get married and she dies. The End.

ETA: That's some BS too about the honeymoon. I remember the episode of "Dinosaurs" where they talk about "The Mating Dance" that "should only be done in the confines of a loving, monogamous relationship, preferably marriage". If they're having a "commitment ceremony" they're obviously in a monogamous relationship (probably moreso then some people who are actually MARRIED), and she's going to die anyway, what's the difference if they actually get to have sex??? Come on mom...let her be a teen. Unless the guy is "saving himself" for his "real wife" later...in which case, he probably shouldn't have gone through with the wedding in the first place.


oh nevermind. i guess i didn't see it. mistook it for somethign else.

KillarneyRose 09-22-2006 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1325334)
i saw that movie...but i didn't.....refresh my memory?

Guess it was more like a Walk You Didn't Remember :)

SoCalGirl 09-22-2006 10:02 AM

"the honeymoon -- a trip to New York City -- chaperoned by Nicole's mother"

I would think the mom is going because by most state laws the daughter is still a minor and can't cross state lines by herself legally. Plus there's the statutory rape thing as the boyfriend is 19. I somehow doubt the mom is going along to stop any sex from happening.

AlphaFrog 09-22-2006 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1325551)
"the honeymoon -- a trip to New York City -- chaperoned by Nicole's mother"

I would think the mom is going because by most state laws the daughter is still a minor and can't cross state lines by herself legally. Plus there's the statutory rape thing as the boyfriend is 19. I somehow doubt the mom is going along to stop any sex from happening.

I just went back and re-read, and the boyfriend lives in their basement, so I guess all immoral arguments are kind of out the window anyway. You would think that this would appese the family that thinks she's being immoral, instead of them living together "in sin". Some people.:rolleyes:

AchtungBaby80 09-22-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn (Post 1325078)
To me, that is a reasonable request....what about those people who request to see someone famous...

There's nothing wrong with wanting to meet a celebrity...you probably won't get to do it, but asking never hurt!


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