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HeartofGold06 09-08-2006 05:06 PM

Going GREEK!!! (ADVICE PLEASE, ALL ACCEPTED BUT ALPHAS PREFERRED)
 
:confused:

Alpha Males,

I have a huge issue I need your advice in solving. I am a sophomore in college and ever since before I started, I have wanted to become a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. The interest is still present, however it seems as though last year the Alphas on my current campus would stare at me or if I knew them, they would ignore me sometimes and other times they wouldn't. I chalked this up to me being paranoid and left it alone. I still get that feeling but I've learned to just disregard it.
Also, my homeboy and I were talking about Greeks one night. His older brother attends our school and is an Alpha. Both of us would like to be accepted to pledge. His brother naturally assumes that my homeboy is going to try to pledge Alpha, and knows the same about me because his brother and him had had conversations about it before.
My biggest issue is that I only have a 2.58GPA. I know that you are only required to have a 2.5GPA to pledge an BGLO, but will the fact that I am right on that mark count against me...especially because they are the branded "intellectual" Alphas...or will it be based more on me as a person since I have met the required mark, am involved in community service, as well as my schools SGA, and feel that I bring a lot to the table.

I would appreciate responses ASAP seeing as the Greek Informational Session is on this upcoming Monday and afterward we are given the opportunity to go to break-off sessions for the GLO of our particular interst.

Thank You in Advance,

Lightseeker

Drolefille 09-08-2006 05:10 PM

Since you said you would accept all advice, I'd advise you NOT to ask on here, and instead go the Info session and talk to the gentlemen in question.

HeartofGold06 09-08-2006 05:24 PM

I know but the thing is, I don't want to go to their info session when there is no chance for me, and make an ass out of myself.

Drolefille 09-08-2006 05:32 PM

Some may tell you that asking on here is making a larger ass out of yourself. The Divine Nine members have made it clear that membership info is private. It's an information session, I suggest going and getting information.

HeartofGold06 09-08-2006 05:38 PM

are you part of the D9?

AlphaFrog 09-08-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HeartofGold06
are you part of the D9?


Does it matter? She's giving you sound advice. Check the stickies at the top of the AKA and DST forums. Same thing applies. D9 or not, we've been around long enough to know what we're talking about.

Drolefille 09-08-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HeartofGold06
are you part of the D9?

No I'm not. This does not change the quality of my statements in anyway. There's a reason that only two NPC members have replied to you thus far. At the very least conduct this inquiry over PM, but you probably won't have luck there either.

HeartofGold06 09-08-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Does it matter? She's giving you sound advice. Check the stickies at the top of the AKA and DST forums. Same thing applies. D9 or not, we've been around long enough to know what we're talking about.

It does, thanks though

Drolefille 09-08-2006 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HeartofGold06
It does, thanks though

Then I consign you to the depths.

/tis your own funeral.

f8nacn 09-08-2006 06:23 PM

Going to an information session would not make you look like an ass...thus the reason they call it an information session. Every chapter is different. Every person is different. Every GLO is different. I too concur with statements above, it would be in your best interest to contact a member on your campus. What are you doing now to improve your grades? They will probably want to know that and the reason behing you having a low-gpa at this point in your academic career. Just some things to think about.

Good luck on your pursuit.

CrimsonTide4 09-08-2006 06:28 PM

Heart (I dare not write the rest),

Your screenname and that fact that you are not an Alpha is raising eyebrows for those who are in the D9 who have read and not responded. I read the thread when you first posted it.

The Alphas have this thread stuck at the top http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=38767 which will be very helpful to you.

Informational sessions are meant to be helpful for all aspirants. Right now you are on the road to Greekdom. Even if you are not chosen this year, the information imparted will be helpful in getting you ready and closer to your Greek aspirations.

Also your screenname is really stepping over the Greek boundaries if you will. To use "06" in your screenname implies that you are an Alpha. Some might say it is not so serious, but for a lot of D9 Greeks it is.

I would suggest attending the informational to learn the specifics for your campus and the Alpha chapter that you have your sights set on.

Best wishes.

AKA_Monet 09-08-2006 06:33 PM

Please go to this website here:

The GPA Requirements for Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

And you know what, as a member of the D9 who is part of the next greek organization that will be celebrating its centennial, I find your username personally and extrememly offensive. Because my father, the Far Western Regional Director of Life Membership for this wonderful Fraternity, fought long and hard for his gains in his life. And he attended his centennial celebration with my mother who is one of my sorority sisters... I am just getting angrier as I type, so I will stop.

AKA_Monet 09-08-2006 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4
Heart (I dare not write the rest),

Your screenname and that fact that you are not an Alpha is raising eyebrows for those who are in the D9 who have read and not responded. I read the thread when you first posted it.

The Alphas have this thread stuck at the top http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=38767 which will be very helpful to you.

Informational sessions are meant to be helpful for all aspirants. Right now you are on the road to Greekdom. Even if you are not chosen this year, the information imparted will be helpful in getting you ready and closer to your Greek aspirations.

Also your screenname is really stepping over the Greek boundaries if you will. To use "06" in your screenname implies that you are an Alpha. Some might say it is not so serious, but for a lot of D9 Greeks it is.

I would suggest attending the informational to learn the specifics for your campus and the Alpha chapter that you have your sights set on.

Best wishes.

Oh the irony... ;)

CrimsonTide4 09-08-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
Please go to this website here:

The GPA Requirements for Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

And you know what, as a member of the D9 who is part of the next greek organization that will be celebrating its centennial, I find your username personally and extrememly offensive. Because my father, the Far Western Regional Director of Life Membership for this wonderful Fraternity, fought long and hard for his gains in his life. And he attended his centennial celebration with my mother who is one of my sorority sisters... I am just getting angrier as I type, so I will stop.

:cool: @ your father! :D

And yes, very ironic.;)

starang21 09-08-2006 06:37 PM

LOL, i ain't mad

HeartofGold06 09-08-2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn
Going to an information session would not make you look like an ass...thus the reason they call it an information session. Every chapter is different. Every person is different. Every GLO is different. I too concur with statements above, it would be in your best interest to contact a member on your campus. What are you doing now to improve your grades? They will probably want to know that and the reason behing you having a low-gpa at this point in your academic career. Just some things to think about.

Good luck on your pursuit.

Thats the kind of advice I was looking for, thanks a lot

f8nacn 09-08-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartofGold06
Thats the kind of advice I was looking for, thanks a lot

No problem, but to be respectful of the members of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated, I would seriously take heed to what was mentioned in the post above me.

06pilot 09-08-2006 09:58 PM

Hold on, Hold on. I am curious here. Why cant a person ask basic questions on this forum? Isnt that its purpose? He isnt asking about rituals or grips or anything. This future aspirant is merely seeking how he can best field himself in MY organization. I have no problem with that. If we tell him to shu away and dont bother us. He will go away and we may miss a blessing of having what might be a good and productive brother.

I have been out of college for over 10 years and I am a professional so maybe I am outof touch, but I would think if we want positve good brothers we need to mentor them and grow them. Isnt one of our main goals to be leaders in our schools and communities and guide others in the right dierection? WHy jump onthis fellow for asking a question about how he can make himself more marketable? Thats should be our aim to build ALpha men. WHat exactly are these forums for? Just a social place or something or is it to inform and educate from informed and educated people.

I

06pilot 09-08-2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
Please go to this website here:

The GPA Requirements for Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

And you know what, as a member of the D9 who is part of the next greek organization that will be celebrating its centennial, I find your username personally and extrememly offensive. Because my father, the Far Western Regional Director of Life Membership for this wonderful Fraternity, fought long and hard for his gains in his life. And he attended his centennial celebration with my mother who is one of my sorority sisters... I am just getting angrier as I type, so I will stop.


As a long time member of the D9 and the first BGLO, I find your screenname flattering and motivational

HeartofGold06 09-08-2006 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06pilot
Hold on, Hold on. I am curious here. Why cant a person ask basic questions on this forum? Isnt that its purpose? He isnt asking about rituals or grips or anything. This future aspirant is merely seeking how he can best field himself in MY organization. I have no problem with that. If we tell him to shu away and dont bother us. He will go away and we may miss a blessing of having what might be a good and productive brother.

I have been out of college for over 10 years and I am a professional so maybe I am outof touch, but I would think if we want positve good brothers we need to mentor them and grow them. Isnt one of our main goals to be leaders in our schools and communities and guide others in the right dierection? WHy jump onthis fellow for asking a question about how he can make himself more marketable? Thats should be our aim to build ALpha men. WHat exactly are these forums for? Just a social place or something or is it to inform and educate from informed and educated people.

I

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06pilot
As a long time member of the D9 and the first BGLO, I find your screenname flattering and motivational

Thanks, that means a lot

ladygreek 09-08-2006 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartofGold06
Thats the kind of advice I was looking for, thanks a lot

But she's not a member of the D9 either. :confused: And at least the other two are members of a GLO.

ladygreek 09-08-2006 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06pilot
Hold on, Hold on. I am curious here. Why cant a person ask basic questions on this forum? Isnt that its purpose? He isnt asking about rituals or grips or anything. This future aspirant is merely seeking how he can best field himself in MY organization. I have no problem with that. If we tell him to shu away and dont bother us. He will go away and we may miss a blessing of having what might be a good and productive brother.

I have been out of college for over 10 years and I am a professional so maybe I am outof touch, but I would think if we want positve good brothers we need to mentor them and grow them. Isnt one of our main goals to be leaders in our schools and communities and guide others in the right dierection? WHy jump onthis fellow for asking a question about how he can make himself more marketable? Thats should be our aim to build ALpha men. WHat exactly are these forums for? Just a social place or something or is it to inform and educate from informed and educated people.

I

I can only speak for Delta. But to discuss anything related to Intake at this stage of the game with a prospect period, much less on a public board could lead to disciplinary action.

BTW, what does you being a professional have to do with being out of touch with Alpha? Are you saying you no longer have time for your frat? Serious question, because I have been out of college much longer than you, I am a professional, and I am very much IN touch with Delta.

06pilot 09-09-2006 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladygreek

BTW, what does you being a professional have to do with being out of touch with Alpha? Are you saying you no longer have time for your frat? Serious question, because I have been out of college much longer than you, I am a professional, and I am very much IN touch with Delta.


No ma'am, you misunderstood. I am very much in touch with Alpha. I didnt say that becuse I am in the professional world I am out of touch with Alpha. I said that because I have been away from college maybe attitudes have changed. The original poster didnt ask anything the intake process. He asked about getinghis GPA up. I would tell any student to definantly get their grades up and try to atainthe highest they can get. Thats all I got from his question.

I am very serious about the development of all young people doing something positive withtheir lives. If I can be of any help I tryto make myself availiable

f8nacn 09-09-2006 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladygreek
But she's not a member of the D9 either. :confused: And at least the other two are members of a GLO.

Yet the advice that was given directed him back to the chapter and didn't stone him for the question that was asked. There is a way to politely answer a question - everyone doesn't need a beating when asking a generalized question.

Drolefille 09-09-2006 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn
Yet the advice that was given directed him back to the chapter and didn't stone him for the question that was asked. There is a way to politely answer a question - everyone doesn't need a beating when asking a generalized question.

That's the exact same thing that I suggested he do btw.

Re: pilot06, reading the link above, at least the moderator of this forum would prefer that questions NOT be asked publicly. This is a policy in the NPHC forums and as such, I recommended that he follow it. When he decided my advice didn't count, well... lets just say I think its funny that he got the same answer again and again.

ladygreek 09-09-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06pilot
The original poster didnt ask anything the intake process. He asked about getinghis GPA up.

If you notice in my response I didn't say anything about process I referenced Intake in general. This means discussing eligibility requirements and we would direct the prospect to our national website.

Also he started talking about being ignored, then asked about how would his GPA be perceived. No one on this board could answer for that chapter unless they are a member of that chapter. And surely they wouldn't respond on a public message board.

Lastly, if he has to be told on a message board to get his grades up and get the highest he could attain, then that's a whole 'nother issue.

ladygreek 09-09-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn
There is a way to politely answer a question - everyone doesn't need a beating when asking a generalized question.

Who was given him beating? He discounted the same advice you gave and he thanked you for, because the posters weren't D9. (They were obviously NPC.) Yet you aren't D9 either nor in another GLO. Now to me that speaks to assumptions and bad ones at that.

Then 06 comes on and encourages him to ask such questions and compliments him on is name. The experienced MB posters on here know that his question and his name would get him flamed elsewhere.

f8nacn 09-09-2006 05:57 PM

I guess its all in tone and how he read their information that's all...People can say the same thing in different ways which can be received differently...

HeartofGold06 09-09-2006 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn
I guess its all in tone and how he read their information that's all...People can same the same thing in different ways which can be received differently...

Exactly

AlphaFrog 09-09-2006 06:06 PM

I would still like you to notice that no Alphas with any standing around here (aka more then 50 posts) have yet responded. That should speak of the appropriateness of the question.

HeartofGold06 09-09-2006 06:15 PM

so Frog...ur saying that "an Alpha is an Alpha" is not true? That what it seems like. I don't care how many posts someone has.

Unregistered- 09-09-2006 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
I would still like you to notice that no Alphas with any standing around here (aka more then 50 posts) have yet responded. That should speak of the appropriateness of the question.

Drolefille and AlphaFrog,

FOR THE LOVE OF BETSY AND ALL THINGS HOLY...

Just stay out of it, please! You are not part of the Divine 9, you will never be a part of the Divine 9, and just because you've been on GC a long time to see how things are handled DOES NOT make you an authority of how things should be handled in the Divine 9 forums.

Following SkeephistAKAte's lead, "THEY'VE. GOT. THIS. THANKS."

AKA2D '91 09-09-2006 06:43 PM

Dang, the Alpha forum has "tension"? :o :p

As mentioned before, the answer to the interest's questions/concerns are "stuck" at the top of this forum's page.

If there are any questions or concerns as to "why or why not", PM the moderator(s).

06pilot 09-09-2006 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
I would still like you to notice that no Alphas with any standing around here (aka more then 50 posts) have yet responded. That should speak of the appropriateness of the question.


SO, you are saying that becaus eI dont have more than 50 posts on this board, I have no standing and I cant speak on behalf of my Fraternity? I am not even going to dignify that with a response

Senusret I 09-09-2006 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06pilot
SO, you are saying that becaus eI dont have more than 50 posts on this board, I have no standing and I cant speak on behalf of my Fraternity? I am not even going to dignify that with a response


Hi Brother,

Just be mindful that we're all different, with different opinions, and none of us speaks on behalf of the Fraternity at large, not even the moderators. Discuss intake matters at your own risk -- sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Really depends on the situation.

All in all, we're on the same page. :)

Drolefille 09-10-2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW
Drolefille and AlphaFrog,

FOR THE LOVE OF BETSY AND ALL THINGS HOLY...

Just stay out of it, please! You are not part of the Divine 9, you will never be a part of the Divine 9, and just because you've been on GC a long time to see how things are handled DOES NOT make you an authority of how things should be handled in the Divine 9 forums.

Following SkeephistAKAte's lead, "THEY'VE. GOT. THIS. THANKS."

I replied to him because he stated that he was willing to accept any and all advice. It seems odd that you didn't cal out f8nacn in the same way. When he said that it made some sort of difference whether I WAS in the d9 or not, then I stopped. Ironically he then went on to listen to the same advice from someone else. And I wasn't even wearing my mean pants that day.

Thanks for your concern.

Unregistered- 09-10-2006 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille
It seems odd that you didn't cal out f8nacn in the same way.

f8nacn doesn't have the same reputation you and AlphaFrog have of not knowing when to keep quiet.

Yeah, I said it GC.

THAT'S WHY.

AlphaFrog 09-10-2006 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW
f8nacn doesn't have the same reputation you and AlphaFrog have of not knowing when to keep quiet.

Yeah, I said it GC.

THAT'S WHY.


f8nacn doesn't have the same rep on the general forums...but have you read much of what she's posted on the D9 boards?

/Not even addressing the irony this situation presents.

SouthernSweet 09-10-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn
Going to an information session would not make you look like an ass...thus the reason they call it an information session. Every chapter is different. Every person is different. Every GLO is different. I too concur with statements above, it would be in your best interest to contact a member on your campus. What are you doing now to improve your grades? They will probably want to know that and the reason behing you having a low-gpa at this point in your academic career. Just some things to think about.

Good luck on your pursuit.

I'll be honest here...I think that going to an information session and asking if your borderline GPA would hurt your chances of getting in is alot like going into a restaurant in an affluent section of town and asking how much the drink specials are.

The truth is, they are probably not going to be able to tell you...it's like anything else...if they really want you, they'll look over it, if GPA is extremely important to that particular chapter, they won't.

The problem is, they don't know you yet.

f8nacn 09-10-2006 04:37 PM

Quote:

f8nacn doesn't have the same rep on the general forums...but have you read much of what she's posted on the D9 boards?

/Not even addressing the irony this situation presents.
How this became a personal attack against me I don't know.... Why hate, because he received what I said because I said the exact same thing in a more tactful manner.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthernSweet
I'll be honest here...I think that going to an information session and asking if your borderline GPA would hurt your chances of getting in is alot like going into a restaurant in an affluent section of town and asking how much the drink specials are.

The truth is, they are probably not going to be able to tell you...it's like anything else...if they really want you, they'll look over it, if GPA is extremely important to that particular chapter, they won't.

The problem is, they don't know you yet.

Anyway, to the statement above, it doesn't matter. A person with minimal qualification can apply and receive a job over a person that has more experience because of character.


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