Sorry guys!

I do!

I'd love to hear more; but would recommend waiting till everything's done to share.

fabulous idea!! can't wait to hear how it is going.

how does panhellenic plan to handle the increased number of pnms? are you all having to hold more parties or are they increasing the number of pnms per party?

I disagree - I like to read the blow-by-blow account. Fun!:p

I totally understand the small greek campus competition. GC has only 4 sororities and it is hard to not sterotype the groups. Gtown as defered Spring recruitment for the whole campus but I think that this year they are allowing all four groups to hold fall recruitment for underclasswomen. I don't feel great about this idea. I think that it will bring out the competitive spirit in everyone really early. But who knows.

I love this idea and can't wait to see how it works out.

While I agree it's more fun :); I just think that especially for a small campus with stereotypes for each chapter it would be "safer" to wait. Jesi can type something up each night and then post at the end. It's her choice. I just think that with as much as we warn PNMs that what they post on GC can come back and bite them, even when they're careful, we should practice what we preach.

Either way I'll enjoy the read. I have voiced my opinion. :) I promise not to start a crusade. :p

Hey, GC has dozens of sororities!!! (I had to read it like three times to figure of you meant GTown!)

Thanks for the giggle.

And for the original poster, BRING IT ON! We want to know all the gory details - has there ever been a thread from this side of things?!?!?

Denise

Good Luck with recruitment. I know the pain of recruitment on a small greek campus where reputations and stereotypes are sooooo hard to shake. The new release figures did help us a ton however. People were worried that it would cause a huge drop out rate after the first party but instead it helped the PNMS focus. I also think it helps the girls see cuts being made pretty much across the bored instead of a few girls getting serious cuts and everyone else getting to pick where they go. It helps them feel they're on an equal footing with everyone else.

i love that your chapter delivered(well, actually you did!) flowers to the other sororities on campus. that is so sweet!! definately something for the chapter i advise to keep in mind for next year!

Good luck, jesidz. My daughter just went DZ about two weeks ago at the University of Alabama, and she absolutely loves her DZ life. I will keep an eye on your thread to see how it goes.....

How very true! I think a lot of PNMs come from the pre-recruitment meetings having heard the message "You'll go where you fit in, choose the best house for you!" and get an inflated sense of "control" in the situation. In order to promote recruitment and to not scare away women, I think a lot of greek life offices and Rho Chis tend to gloss over the unfortunate reality that PNMs are essentially powerless in this process. Honestly, the sororities have like 90% of control over the fate of individual PNMs... there's only a very small handful of exceptional PNMs that are really able to have their choice of their favorite houses.

In terms of the outfits, I sometimes hear the PNMs say "I was told to dress to stand out"... PNMs don't necessarily understand that this means, say, a pretty and unique necklace, not a cowboy hat or a neon green boa. While it's good for a PNM to show her unique and endearing qualities, TOO much "standing out" can cause a sorority to be like "She's nothing like our girls, she won't be happy here." A lot of the 18-20 set also don't understand the difference between "dressing up" and "going to the club." I honestly sometimes wonder why an 18 y.o. PNM would come to my chapter with her boobs hanging out. I'm like "There are no guys here, so who are you trying to impress?" Church and sorority recruitment are the two of the only times in a woman's life where it's essential to err on the conservative side, in manner and dress.

so that's why XYZ cut me after round 1...i've been wondering for years :D

During first round, I totally wore a necklace with a point shoe charm on it that the dance department at my school gave me when I graduated and it really did inspire conversations! Yay for that.

WOW! Congrats!

Awesome! So excited to hear your story, since I can't make it to my chapter's recruitment...their pref is tonight, and I'm just plain bummed...but they've had excellent return rates, so it's exciting! Thanks for letting me live vicariously!

100% Return Rate
 

That's incredible. Congratulations.

My campus did the Release Figures Method for the 1st time this year and it worked out relatively well.

Good luck the rest of the week.

I thought about doing this (a recruitment thread from an advisors point of view) but I will use your lead and maybe I will do it next year. I am so interested in how you do this thread.

It is hard as an advisor to have a "rush crush" and not be able to "recruit" them. But, I fall into that trap every year.

HAVE A GREAT TIME. AND GET SOME SLEEP HA HA - You know another thing I learned - it was alot easier to be perky with only 4 hours of sleep when I was 20 then it is at 35.

Thanks for this thread .. . . . oh and ICS ROCKS

Omigosh, I could have written this!! I keep thinking, would that the college or the Panhel or someone would put the Advisors up in a dorm or hotel for Recruitment Week! If I had to do it all over again (as an Advisor), I would have taken the week off, and checked into a hotel - because after everything was set up, I still had the 45 minute drive home each night and had to get up for work about an hour later!

OH I STAYED IN A HOTEL - with ms. Braste (for those of yall who know her) I had to get away for goodness sake but even then I didn't get to the hotel until aroun 1 or 2 in the morning every day. Then back to "work" at 8 or 9 am. . . But I did take the weekend off of my real job which helpd(this year) alot. There was no way I could have been an effective recruitment advisor and do my job well too. Not that it can't be done but since I was able to take off of work I did. . .

ya'll are making me feel better!! the last two nights, i have slid into bed at 3:30 a.m.. fgcu is going thru formal recruitment right now-prefs tonight!!

the way i feel right now, there is not enough caffiene in the world to shake this "fog" from my brain. you know you are tired when you cannot add 3 + 3 + 5 together!!

congratulations on wonderul return rates!! stay strong!! recruitment advisors of the world ,UNITE!!!!

AMEN

We can call ourselves Rho Alpha's - and our secret action will be the visual of pushing the snooze button.

Our Advisor always stayed in the house during Recruitment. I don't really remember if she took the week off, but she definitely didn't drive home after Membership Selection.

yea well I stayed in the sorority dorms LAST Year and swore I would never do it again. If you choose to stay in the dorms then you become not only recruitment advisor and sister, you become a full time mother, doctor, artist, mathmatician, referee, panhellenic specialist, maid, FRC, RVP, RIM, Treasurer, painter, . . . . don't get me wrong I love being recruitment advisor - especially for the chapter from which I graduated but the peace and quiet that I got at the hotel this year made me a little more helpful to the girls, when I was around them.

Sorry for going off the subject too much. How is DZ doing today?

This cracked me up... that's basically what happened when I took over as my university's Panhellenic Advisor. I love it though.

bump....what happened?

I was asked to delete the thread and so I complied.

Who?
 

Who asked you to delete it?

Apparently the information that I posted was sensitive in some manner and I had inadvertently offended another chapter. Which, by the way, was never my intention. However I have enough respect for my organization to comply with the wishes of the higher up's. Sucks though that a post on Greek chat that I wrote to build up and support my chapter could be taken in a negative way.

It would be my pleasure to at least give you the finale...never mind that you all missed the middle of the show. No concerns!

Anyways, our chapter did AMAZING! And I might add I think it was the BEST year for all the chapters at my university. By the way, it is the University of Central Oklahoma. Our chapter made quota which was 28 plus we got two quota additions. We were still just under total so we were able to pick up several other PNM's which brought our new member class to 33!

As far as Panhellenic went, we had 195 PNM's start recruitment and we lost about 70 of them. Some were due to grade cuts but it was our first year with ICS and the first day was incredibly long and unorganized. Our last party started at midnight! And that was our 11th by the way! I think that was part of the reason why we lost some of the potentials. It sucks because those girls could have been great members but it was a learning experience for everyone. Hopefully next year we will have high numbers again and we will keep them interested until the end!

I say it was the BEST recruitment for all chapters because it really seemed like every chapter got *the top girls that they wanted*
So many times it seems like everyone competes over the top 20 PNM's. This year every chapter got their favorites and their favorites wanted them too!

For Double Blue and Gold-your women did excellent! They got some really great women and they recruited with class and style! I love your advisor, she is so sweet! And their Pref looked beautiful! It seemed like an AWESOME rush for your chapter at UCO! Congratulations.

We have Delta Zeta, Alpha Gamma Delta, Sigma Kappa and Alpha Xi Delta at our school!

Thanks!
 

I'd love everything not governed by ritual to be complete transparent, but I forget that we should always be concerned with public relations too.

I don't remember anything that could be offensive, but I guess folks could be afraid of starting a trend, and that with an advisor less tactful than yourself posting, the threads could be troublesome.

Thank you for aknowledging my tact! But I do agree, there would be instances when it could get out of control! My guess is the return figures were the main issue. Which I understand, but I was doing a happy dance when I posted that...

Either way I wanted to respect the suggestion that was given to me so I deleted everything that I could!

Yes, all the groups did great from the information I heard.

And its great not to be the smallest group any more! I think everyone will hit total this fall.

Omigosh, I could have written this!! I keep thinking, would that the college or the Panhel or someone would put the Advisors up in a dorm or hotel for Recruitment Week! If I had to do it all over again (as an Advisor), I would have taken the week off, and checked into a hotel - because after everything was set up, I still had the 45 minute drive home each night and had to get up for work about an hour later!

The 1sst year, I stayed at the Bid Night party and got home about midnight. Went to work the next day but went home early because i was DRAINED! It's about 45 minutes each way to/from campus..

Now, I stay at a local hotel and save my sanity in the process.

This last time I made the reservations online and said I was a govt employee (which I am) and saved $20 off their rate.. I didn't even have to show my id when I checked in.

Congratulations!!! Sorry that your idea was a bust... I wish we could get a private alumnae side to this but I think that would be too complicated.

Please post a picture of your GREAT ADVANTAGE!!! I would love to see it.

Could you PM me how AGD did??? thanks!!!