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Prunetacos 09-03-2006 06:27 PM

Noble and High-minded?
 
I've read many vitriolic posts on these boards the past few weeks, and I'm incredulous that so many people who consider themselves noble, high-minded leaders of the nation should stoop to the level of "attack writing" that one would associate with non-Greeks. There are (apparently) two members of SAE who go after each other, and there are LOTS of people who heap ridicule upon Mr. Earp. I've had posts that were thought-provoking, humorous, inciteful, that have been removed by individuals who probably thought that their organizations were being challenged. Some of these same people, objecting to my posts and proclaiming their superiority, skewer each other as mortal enemies, not simply people with whom they have a strong disagreement.

"No matter what the letter, Greeks do it better." According to what I've read from some here, that maxim also applies to viciousness.
-Prunetacos

adpiucf 09-03-2006 06:28 PM

And your point would be...?

33girl 09-03-2006 06:35 PM

Dear Prune:

Your main objective on this board seems to be trying to drag skeletons out of closets. We've all got members we aren't proud of. I'm sure you would say the same for your own family.

If this is something you feel so strongly about, start your own website on which Greeks were SLA members/Manson girls/Barney cast members.

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf
And your point would be...?

My point is that when it comes to disemboweling antagonists, nobody does it as well as some of the Greek posters here - and their noble sisters and brothers.

It really wants to make others trust, follow and obey....::(

-Prunetacos

33girl 09-03-2006 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunetacos
My point is that when it comes to disemboweling antagonists, nobody does it as well as some of the Greek posters here - and their noble sisters and brothers.

It really wants to make others trust, follow and obey....::(

-Prunetacos

It has nothing to do with the fact that we're Greek. It has to do with the fact that many members on here don't like to put up with bullshit.

carnation 09-03-2006 06:43 PM

So if you're so bothered by us, well...adios. Don't hang out and try to "innocently" get information (Sally Ride) and then attempt to zap us by what you've read and think you know. We couldn't care less about your opinions.:rolleyes:

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl
Dear Prune:

Your main objective on this board seems to be trying to drag skeletons out of closets. We've all got members we aren't proud of. I'm sure you would say the same for your own family.

If this is something you feel so strongly about, start your own website on which Greeks were SLA members/Manson girls/Barney cast members.

*************
The skeletons are all out, 33girl. I'm having a devil of a time rounding them back up. Let's see...how about mom who was an undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, a brother who was a wife-beater, who left her shortly before their baby was born - didn't want to pay child support - and who was fired from several jobs for stealing? Is that bones enough? Oh...by the way...a few years ago he went to an SAE house and tried to get into it, saying that he was a member. When they found out he was lying, they kicked his butt to the curb. Just like my brother....:mad:
What's your GLO?
-Prunetacos

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl
It has nothing to do with the fact that we're Greek. It has to do with the fact that many members on here don't like to put up with bullshit.

Perhaps we can disavow cow manure not by slinging it, but by pointing out where others are wrong. It doesn't take much to be nasty. It takes a lot to present a strong and reasoned argument that's not ad hominem.
-Prunetacos

carnation 09-03-2006 06:51 PM

Got us another weird one, guys....

jon1856 09-03-2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunetacos
I've read many vitriolic posts on these boards the past few weeks, and I'm incredulous that so many people who consider themselves noble, high-minded leaders of the nation should stoop to the level of "attack writing" that one would associate with non-Greeks. There are (apparently) two members of SAE who go after each other, and there are LOTS of people who heap ridicule upon Mr. Earp. I've had posts that were thought-provoking, humorous, inciteful, that have been removed by individuals who probably thought that their organizations were being challenged. Some of these same people, objecting to my posts and proclaiming their superiority, skewer each other as mortal enemies, not simply people with whom they have a strong disagreement.

"No matter what the letter, Greeks do it better." According to what I've read from some here, that maxim also applies to viciousness.
-Prunetacos


As one of the two "apparent" SAE's you spoke of I have to say I find your comment funny. I have never taken any posting or persons agument personaly. As someone else posted all families have disagreements. Friends have disagreements on some subject but still remain friends. I will tell you flat out that I could and would have drinks or dinner any Friday or Saturday afternoon or evening with TEX without a problem. Face to face, we both may solve all the worlds problems.:) As long as we do not go out with or meet any ANZACS or South Africans-done that twice and the third time I fear would kill me.;)

And Prunetocos, while very obvious, not only are we 'all" Greeks here, we are all people, humans with our own thoughts, beliefs, upbringing, et al.

We just hang out here and open up to each other.....:D

And since you brought it up and asked--what is your GLO????

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation
So if you're so bothered by us, well...adios. Don't hang out and try to "innocently" get information (Sally Ride) and then attempt to zap us by what you've read and think you know. We couldn't care less about your opinions.:rolleyes:

Dear Carnation: Gee, I hope I can stay! I promise not to say mean things about anybody except non-Greeks, who don't know better anyway. PEOPLE don't bother me. Certain attitudes and behaviors bother me. A few years ago I made a comment about Sally Ride not being in a sorority, and I was told in the firmest of terms that I was completely wrong. I've been trying to find out ever since what she was in. Maybe an honorary? Maybe one devoted to science (like Sigma Xi)? Maybe a service organization? Don't know. What I do know is that I've never found an answer. You can google "Sally Ride" and "sorority" and come up with a list of outstanding Americans - she among them - who are in GLOs.

I've been privately chewed out about "The Urban Legend of Carla Sander." It's not an urban legend, folks. Sorry.

I suppose now I should say that two of the people (yes, they're friends) that I admire most in my life are a KKG and a Chi O. Both are world-renowned scientists and pioneers in their respective fields.

"Accentuate the positive. Eliminate the negative" - songwriter Johnny Mercer

-Prunetacos

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856
As one of the two "apparent" SAE's you spoke of I have to say I find your comment funny. I have never taken any posting or persons agument personaly. As someone else posted all families have disagreements. Friends have disagreements on some subject but still remain friends. I will tell you flat out that I could and would have drinks or dinner any Friday or Saturday afternoon or evening with TEX without a problem. Face to face, we both may solve all the worlds problems.:) As long as we do not go out with or meet any ANZACS or South Africans-done that twice and the third time I fear would kill me.;)

And Prunetocos, while very obvious, not only are we 'all" Greeks here, we are all people, humans with our own thoughts, beliefs, upbringing, et al.

We just hang out here and open up to each other.....:D

Excellent points, very well said, Jon1856!
-Prunetacos

carnation 09-03-2006 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunetacos
Dear Carnation: Gee, I hope I can stay! I promise not to say mean things about anybody except non-Greeks, who don't know better anyway. PEOPLE don't bother me. Certain attitudes and behaviors bother me.

Do you make a habit of going onto message boards as a newbie (August 2006) and insulting people? You must be well liked!

You won't find any wrongdoing to expose here or open anybody's eyes to what Greeks are "really" like. If you want to cause trouble, there are other boards that are a lot more vituperative.

This is a weird thread. I believe I'll find better elsewhere.

jon1856 09-03-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl
It has nothing to do with the fact that we're Greek. It has to do with the fact that many members on here don't like to put up with bullshit.

:) Here, here......

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:10 PM

Why are people so irritated with Mr. Earp?
 
A little off-subject, perhaps, and hopefully somebody who's been here for a few years can answer the question - Why are people here frequently angry at Tom Earp? Maybe I should have gone back to much earlier posts.

I have another brother (not the skeleton) who is a pharmacist and who joined Alpha Sigma Phi many years ago. He had a good time, has a lot of great stories, but I don't know if he keeps up with many of his old fraternity brothers.

Perhaps the tenor, color and quality of one's GLO experience depend upon three things - the individual, the academic institution, and the GLO.
- Prunetacos

jon1856 09-03-2006 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunetacos
A few years ago I made a comment about Sally Ride not being in a sorority, and I was told in the firmest of terms that I was completely wrong. I've been trying to find out ever since what she was in. Maybe an honorary? Maybe one devoted to science (like Sigma Xi)? Maybe a service organization? Don't know. What I do know is that I've never found an answer. You can google "Sally Ride" and "sorority" and come up with a list of outstanding Americans - she among them - who are in GLOs.
-Prunetacos

Well, have you ever given any thought of just asking NASA?
I am sure one could find their web site in a matter on a few seconds.

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation
Do you make a habit of going onto message boards as a newbie (August 2006) and insulting people? You must be well liked!

You won't find any wrongdoing to expose here or open anybody's eyes to what Greeks are "really" like. If you want to cause trouble, there are other boards that are a lot more vituperative.

This is a weird thread. I believe I'll find better elsewhere.

"Vituperative" - great word, Carnation!!!

Hmmm...causing trouble...I don't think I've smeared anybody that posts here. I also don't think I've said anything here that was a lie.

As far as message boards, if they're not interesting, I don't go back. If they are - and there are a lot of interesting subjects here - then I go back and participate.

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856
Well, have you ever given any thought of just asking NASA?
I am sure one could find their web site in a matter on a few seconds.

Jon1856, I looked and Looked and LOOKED. I even went to SALLYRIDE.COM - Dr. Ride is a personal hero of mine whom I heard speak at Gaucher College many years ago - all to no avail. I thought that people here might know, and maybe somebody does. Thanks for the suggestion. Ever been to the Houston Space Center? Cool place - not as neat as the Air and Space Museum in DC, but still cool. Sorry for the digression.:(
- Prunetacos

jon1856 09-03-2006 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunetacos
Jon1856, I looked and Looked and LOOKED. I even went to SALLYRIDE.COM - Dr. Ride is a personal hero of mine whom I heard speak at Gaucher College many years ago - all to no avail. I thought that people here might know, and maybe somebody does. Thanks for the suggestion. Ever been to the Houston Space Center? Cool place - not as neat as the Air and Space Museum in DC, but still cool. Sorry for the digression.:(
- Prunetacos

Dinner is still cooking so I did your homework for you-took about 2 sec.:
http://www.nasa.gov/about/contact/index.html

Swarthmore's sororities were abolished in 1935 by a vote of the women of Swarthmore college.

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:35 PM

Sally Ride...again
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856
Dinner is still cooking so I did your homework for you-took about 2 sec.:
http://www.nasa.gov/about/contact/index.html

*****
I just wrote them, jon1856. I'll let people know what I find out. THanks for the site.

"Reach for the Stars" - Christa Corrigan McAuliffe, teacher/astronaut on board the ill-fated Challenger mission of 1986. (Sorority member Dr. Judith Resnick was also on board.)

jon1856 09-03-2006 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunetacos
*****
I just wrote them, jon1856. I'll let people know what I find out. THanks for the site.

"Reach for the Stars" - Christa Corrigan McAuliffe, teacher/astronaut on board the ill-fated Challenger mission of 1986. (Sorority member Dr. Judith Resnick was also on board.)

Prune': Please do not take this the wrong way/incorrectly but if I was able to locate information that you did not have within 5 seconds and you have made this matter a personal search perhaps you should spend less time on this board.....One of my pet peaves is when someone askes others for answers when they should be able to and willing to find them for themselves....and I did your research while catching up on my own personal e-mails and reviewing this group.......

Prunetacos 09-03-2006 07:48 PM

Thanks, jon1856!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856
Prune': Please do not take this the wrong way/incorrectly but if I was able to locate information that you did not have within 5 seconds and you have made this matter a personal search perhaps you should spend less time on this board.....One of my pet peaves is when someone askes others for answers when they should be able to and willing to find them for themselves....and I did your research while catching up on my own personal e-mails and reviewing this group.......

I really appreciate the info, jon1856. I just never got up the nerve to write Dr. Ride or NASA or Stanford or Swarthmore and ask the question, so I just looked around trying to find the answer. For most people, if you look hard enough, you can find it on the web in their biography, or in the writings of someone who knew them in college. Again...I'll let you know what the results are. When she spoke at Gaucher, she was funny, down-to-earth, bright, and a thoroughly delightful speaker. She was given a large painting of a sailboat on the Chesapeake Bay. - Prunetacos


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